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NJ RB Kareem Walker not playing @ UM due to academic issues

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Kareem Walker was not on the field or sidelines for Michigan's opening game, in which 5 other RBs got carries. Jim Harbaugh said Walker has to concentrate on school for now. Would have been interesting to see if Walker would have been on the field if Michigan opened up against MSU.

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Did he enroll early? Otherwise that's awfully quick to have academic issues.
 
academic issues after 1 week of class? How can that happen?
It truly is amazing to see how dumb some of these kids are. You have a chance to earn a degree from a tremendous school, where an out of state prospective student would be paying roughly $65,000 a year and yet these kids screw it up within a week. They all preach during the recruiting phase it's always "I'm looking for a school with good academics". It's really comical with some of these student athletes.
 
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He should transfer to the University of Phoenix where he would be a starter immediately and not have those pesky coaches riding him about attending classes.
 
Honestly, I never understood why Walker was ranked #1 in the country at RB.

it's early in his career, but it's not looking good.

at least Harbaugh hasn't given up on him yet.
Agree. He may be in a situation where he is no longer the star but one amongst many highly recruited players and struggling with that as well.
 
It truly is amazing to see how dumb some of these kids are. You have a chance to earn a degree from a tremendous school, where an out of state prospective student would be paying roughly $65,000 a year and yet these kids screw it up within a week. They all preach during the recruiting phase it's always "I'm looking for a school with good academics". It's really comical with some of these student athletes.

Try taking a walk in their shoes one day. It is comical to see a 35+ year old call 18 year old kids dumb.

We have no idea what these kids have gone through in their life. Actually, I have an idea. It is not always the best situations.
 
Try taking a walk in their shoes one day. It is comical to see a 35+ year old call 18 year old kids dumb.

We have no idea what these kids have gone through in their life. Actually, I have an idea. It is not always the best situations.
oh boy. all the kid has to do is go to class and do his homework. i would say like everyone else, but he's not like everyone else. he will have a paid support staff to help him with every subject. his "situation" now is an opportunity to have a dynamic change for the better in his life. i don't know or care what his "situation" was. you don't let your past (if that is even the case here) screw up opportunities like this. this kid should know that and act accordingly. his priority list should be school, football, partying. if it's not he is a fool.
 
oh boy. all the kid has to do is go to class and do his homework. i would say like everyone else, but he's not like everyone else. he will have a paid support staff to help him with every subject. his "situation" now is an opportunity to have a dynamic change for the better in his life. i don't know or care what his "situation" was. you don't let your past (if that is even the case here) screw up opportunities like this. this kid should know that and act accordingly. his priority list should be school, football, partying. if it's not he is a fool.

Lol. Easy for you to say,man. Not as easy for a kid that may have had a ton of situations in his life that neither you or I know about.

I tutor in the inner city. These kids stress levels are higher than that of a regular 35 year old when they are just 17 years old.
 
oh boy. all the kid has to do is go to class and do his homework. i would say like everyone else, but he's not like everyone else. he will have a paid support staff to help him with every subject. his "situation" now is an opportunity to have a dynamic change for the better in his life. i don't know or care what his "situation" was. you don't let your past (if that is even the case here) screw up opportunities like this. this kid should know that and act accordingly. his priority list should be school, football, partying. if it's not he is a fool.
It's not that simple. Many of these kids come from primary and secondary schools where they aren't taught the basics well enough, or even how to study. They go from K-12 and then they go to another environment where they are asked to do things they were never asked to do before. It's not like you can always jump in and function well academically, even with tutoring and a support staff. I'm not saying that is or isn't the case here, I don't know. I do know the quality of education from K-12 varies significantly from district to district and many kids aren't equipped to excel in college. I will be cite my own town, Piscataway. If you were in honors or AP classes, no problem; if you weren't you may or may not have the requisite skills to do well in college. This is one reason why some people pay two or three times the taxes more than the next town over, or why they send their kids to private schools.
 
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How did he get thru the HS private school education?
Because the people there actually cared about him, he wasn't a piece of meat. They stayed on top of him and made sure work was done correct and on time. That time was set aside for homework and studying. You don't know anyone who was fine in HS and then went to college and did poorly? Not to mention, a good part of many of these guys early Private education is spent simply getting them up to snuff. I knew a basketball player that wanted to transfer his sophomore year into a parochial. He was doing fine at his regional city school. When the Parochial tested him he read at a 5th grade level.
 
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Doesn't UM have some joke majors/courses that Harbaugh made fun of while at Stanford?

This is the school that graduated Rumeal Robinson, no? I doubt they are asking Walker to split atoms.
 
Because the people there actually cared about him, he wasn't a piece of meat. They stayed on top of him and made sure work was done correct and on time. That time was set aside for homework and studying. You don't know anyone who was fine in HS and then went to college and did poorly? Not to mention, a good part of many of these guys early Private education is spent simply getting them up to snuff. I knew a basketball player that wanted to transfer his sophomore year into a parochial. He was doing fine at his regional city school. When the Parochial tested him he read at a 5th grade level.
I might actually suggest that the needs of the student are more closely watched and tended to by the academic support staff at a major program like Michigan than they are in high school. I'll say this - and I went to the same high school as Walker, albeit more than 25 years earlier - it was not a rigorous academic environment then, and it certainly isn't any better now. They do have a tradition of pushing their marquee athletes through, lifting them up over most hurdles, but not necessarily in a way that makes them better. Kind of like the old proverb about giving a man a fish rather than teaching him to fish.

I don't mean to suggest I have any insight into Walker's scholastic aptitude or potential - I don't - though I do know he had some personal/family challenges. I'm only saying that I doubt he ever had to worry about academic rigor in high school. That may be why he is having a hard time adapting to college (if indeed he is).
 
Doesn't UM have some joke majors/courses that Harbaugh made fun of while at Stanford?

This is the school that graduated Rumeal Robinson, no? I doubt they are asking Walker to split atoms.

UM and OSU: theys finds ways. . . .
 
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I might actually suggest that the needs of the student are more closely watched and tended to by the academic support staff at a major program like Michigan than they are in high school. I'll say this - and I went to the same high school as Walker, albeit more than 25 years earlier - it was not a rigorous academic environment then, and it certainly isn't any better now. They do have a tradition of pushing their marquee athletes through, lifting them up over most hurdles, but not necessarily in a way that makes them better. Kind of like the old proverb about giving a man a fish rather than teaching him to fish.

I don't mean to suggest I have any insight into Walker's scholastic aptitude or potential - I don't - though I do know he had some personal/family challenges. I'm only saying that I doubt he ever had to worry about academic rigor in high school. That may be why he is having a hard time adapting to college (if indeed he is).

Depaul is not academically rigorous. . . at least he has a stipend.

Call me crazy, but Walker would have been better off at Nebraska or Iowa, but definitely not Michigan/tOSU.

Meanwhile, Gary and Dwumfour had solid debuts.
 
Because the people there actually cared about him, he wasn't a piece of meat. They stayed on top of him and made sure work was done correct and on time. That time was set aside for homework and studying. You don't know anyone who was fine in HS and then went to college and did poorly? Not to mention, a good part of many of these guys early Private education is spent simply getting them up to snuff. I knew a basketball player that wanted to transfer his sophomore year into a parochial. He was doing fine at his regional city school. When the Parochial tested him he read at a 5th grade level.
My nephew did well for himself going to that HS.
 
I might actually suggest that the needs of the student are more closely watched and tended to by the academic support staff at a major program like Michigan than they are in high school. I'll say this - and I went to the same high school as Walker, albeit more than 25 years earlier - it was not a rigorous academic environment then, and it certainly isn't any better now. They do have a tradition of pushing their marquee athletes through, lifting them up over most hurdles, but not necessarily in a way that makes them better. Kind of like the old proverb about giving a man a fish rather than teaching him to fish.

I don't mean to suggest I have any insight into Walker's scholastic aptitude or potential - I don't - though I do know he had some personal/family challenges. I'm only saying that I doubt he ever had to worry about academic rigor in high school. That may be why he is having a hard time adapting to college (if indeed he is).
My guess is you weren't a division 1 athlete. While true Universities do a great job of offering tutoring and resources they aren't with them 24 hours a day. Most athletes will tell you they did better academically while in season vs out. In season you get up and lift, go to class, receive treatment, practice, film study, etc etc. there is no time to goof or take a nap thinking you'll get to your work later. in the summer for example, you lift, go to class, do some work with teammates and that's it. Much much easier to get distracted and struggle when your whole life isn't scripted for you. To your second point, DP is a stronger school and more rigorous than when you were there. It's not debatable. That being said, it isn't some elite academy but again Wlaker had people in his corner there. The family he lived with was amazing, his coaches stayed on top of him, other adults in his life made sure he didn't have the free time to goof off or hang out in Irvington. He doesn't have that right now and it's obvious he hasn't learned how to do it all on his own as of yet.
 
Try taking a walk in their shoes one day. It is comical to see a 35+ year old call 18 year old kids dumb.

We have no idea what these kids have gone through in their life. Actually, I have an idea. It is not always the best situations.
I'm not 35 but thanks for guessing. Let me get you a violin to play . Who gives a crap what they have gone through? It's called life and what the hell does that have to do with going to class and not being put on academic probation your first semester of college? Oh it doesn't. He earned his way into Michigan for one reason only... because he can play football and he's blowing his chance already. Take your sympathy and walk in someone else's shoes story else where.
 
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Lol. Easy for you to say,man. Not as easy for a kid that may have had a ton of situations in his life that neither you or I know about.

I tutor in the inner city. These kids stress levels are higher than that of a regular 35 year old when they are just 17 years old.
Yea because no one has stress in their lives. At 17 I'm pretty sure every kid applying and studying for college is stressed. Give me a break. He was in a great private high school and had scholarships to every school out there. Sorry but studying is part of college and if you want to play football and get a free ride then learn how to go to class and study hall. He's given every opportunity at that school to succeed with academic advisors and tutors. I'm going to guess he's not majoring in chemistry either.
 
Yea because no one has stress in their lives. At 17 I'm pretty sure every kid applying and studying for college is stressed. Give me a break. He was in a great private high school and had scholarships to every school out there. Sorry but studying is part of college and if you want to play football and get a free ride then learn how to study.

Again, not everyones situation is completely the same. Especially division 1 athletes. Some of them have histories that none of us would want to experience.

I am not saying this kid deserves no criticism. I am not one to judge in the first place, because I have many imperfections. I am saying we are unaware of his life circumstances.

Choose to judge if you want.
 
Just make sure you are perfect, and have been through the experiences these kids often go through. Yes, we watch them on saturdays, but a lot of them have far different lives than the average viewer.
 
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Again, not everyones situation is completely the same. Especially division 1 athletes. Some of them have histories that none of us would want to experience.

I am not saying this kid deserves no criticism. I am not one to judge in the first place, because I have many imperfections. I am saying we are unaware of his life circumstances.

Choose to judge if you want.
I get it. They have personal situations that are probably rougher than the average high schooler. Many come from bad parts of the state. However, when you can play at a private NJ high school that already is a foot in the door. Having the choice and privilege to attend 30 plus colleges is something a lot of other students would dream of.
 
School????? They want me to go to school???????

I didn't come here to go to school maaaaaaaannnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I get it. They have personal situations that are probably rougher than the average high schooler. Many come from bad parts of the state. However, when you can play at a private NJ high school that already is a foot in the door. Having the choice and privilege to attend 30 plus colleges is something a lot of other students would dream of.


It was not a choice. It was something that was worked for. It was not a privilege,either.

You are making it seem like this kid did not work to where he got to go.

Many come from bad parts of the state, yes. Go to those bad parts, and let me know what you think. I will take those take a walk in my shoes stories someplace, and it is here to you. You really do not understand.

Have a good day.
 
He should transfer to the University of Phoenix where he would be a starter immediately and not have those pesky coaches riding him about attending classes.
They do have a great Venue
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I'm not 35 but thanks for guessing. Let me get you a violin to play . Who gives a crap what they have gone through? It's called life and what the hell does that have to do with going to class and not being put on academic probation your first semester of college? Oh it doesn't. He earned his way into Michigan for one reason only... because he can play football and he's blowing his chance already. Take your sympathy and walk in someone else's shoes story else where.

Responses like these always crack me up. Really dude? You certainly have a lot to say about a kid who you now have decided you don't even give a damn about.

It starts with the faux concern... you sit there and write a paragraph ripping a 17 year old who you don't even know, calling him an idiot and basically a failure at life. Then when someone points out that he might be going through some things, you turn around and brag about how you don't even care about him? If that's the case than why did you even post in the first place if you care so little? Hes a freshman with some academic issues. It happens. And how he got to Michigan shouldn't even concern you if thats the way you feel, football included.
 
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