Official Fiesta Bowl Thread: tOSU vs Klempsin
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Even Ohio State has to block people for this offense to work. When they don't, they look like RU when they run it.
Where a team is getting outcoached doesn't matter. Clemson has a far superior offensive scheme. OSU's offense is unimaginably simplistic.
And compare recruiting classes. OSU clearly has the Jimmy's and Joe's. They are getting outcoached by a far superior tactician.
Clemson looks just fine running the spread.
It's the players, not the scheme.
Football still comes down to winning up front.
It's the players, not the scheme.
Football still comes down to winning up front.
Skillet: they are very similar.
And I'd go a step further and say Clemson is running a lot of what we were running.
You have to win up front regardless of how many stars you have.
And I'd go a step further and say Clemson is running a lot of what we were running.
You have to win up front regardless of how many stars you have.
You mean that someone has to coach and develop the Jimmys and Joes once they get in the program? What a novel concept.
See? Last play, the homerun was there, but they didn't execute.
This play, someone came untouched through an interior gap.
I don't know how you can scheme around bad passing and interior pressure.
Meyer is a master with star players at his disposal and he's struggling mightily.
Think this would look any better with two TEs and a FB on the field?
This play, someone came untouched through an interior gap.
I don't know how you can scheme around bad passing and interior pressure.
Meyer is a master with star players at his disposal and he's struggling mightily.
Think this would look any better with two TEs and a FB on the field?
OSU's talent, with the notable exception of QB, is clearly superior. Clemson is playing a far smarter game because they are better coached. Better schemes and far better play-calling. Keep the teams the same and flip the coaching staffs? Swinney wins by a mile.
Clemson is getting far superior blocking. The schemes aren't that different. OSU hasn't blocked anybody all night. Watson is a better passer than Barrett, and his receivers are better.
Skillet: the schemes are quite similar. We can disagree.
The Clemson QB hit on some bombs early and OSU is forced to respect it opening things up in the running game and along the outside.
Meanwhile Clemson is getting all kinds of pressure keeping 7 and 8 in coverage.
I honestly don't know how we're watching the same game?
The Clemson QB hit on some bombs early and OSU is forced to respect it opening things up in the running game and along the outside.
Meanwhile Clemson is getting all kinds of pressure keeping 7 and 8 in coverage.
I honestly don't know how we're watching the same game?
Schemes are night and day. OSU game plan was the Jimmy and Joe game plan: "We're tougher than them
Must not, Mike! OSU has played incredibly close to the vest, while Clemson has opened up the field. On defense, Clemson has run blitz packages, while OSU has tried to outmuscle.
Again, Clemson rushed just four there -- look at that crazy pressure.
That has nothing to do with scheme and everything to do with getting owned up front.
Maybe that's coaching, but I think Clemson's guys are just better -- by a good amount -- up front.
That has nothing to do with scheme and everything to do with getting owned up front.
Maybe that's coaching, but I think Clemson's guys are just better -- by a good amount -- up front.
Agreed. It's 24-0 now and I'm calling this one for Clemson.
B1G has not been impressive in the big bowl games. Penn State vs USC will be very interesting.
I wonder if Meyer is second guessing hiring Gary to be DC. Either way, he needs to thank Cardale Jones for that national championship 2 years ago.
Skillet: Clemson is keeping their safeties way back knowing the pressure is hitting home.
Meyer has to run and dink and dunk to force a safety up. It's not working
Now he just has to take shots downfield regardless because he's down big late.
Worked 2x in a row. Then it leads to an INT.
Meyer has to run and dink and dunk to force a safety up. It's not working
Now he just has to take shots downfield regardless because he's down big late.
Worked 2x in a row. Then it leads to an INT.
Which team has two all-American offensive linemen? Which team has had top five recruiting classes filling their roster? They are simply getting outschemed mammothly.
Look at this last drive. In desperation, Meyer opened up the game and made great progress. Where was that for three quarters?
It's boys against men in this game. tOSU lost 11 guys to the NFL and are starting a lot of freshmen and sophomores. IIRC, the are losing only one guy to graduation this year. Compare that to, say, Meat Chicken, who is losing 15 starters. As bad as Clemson is making tOSU look tonight, the next couple of years will be very good ones for Urban.
Skillet: we both know accolades mean nothing if you play small in the big game.
Meyer is forcing the issue and asking a questionable passer to fire it into coverage.
Barrett is WAY better when throwing against man-to-man coverage and single high off play-action.
Unfortunately, Clemson hasn't allowed OSU to set it up.
Meyer is forcing the issue and asking a questionable passer to fire it into coverage.
Barrett is WAY better when throwing against man-to-man coverage and single high off play-action.
Unfortunately, Clemson hasn't allowed OSU to set it up.
Swinney has Watson spreading the ball all over the field and to a host of receivers. Urban has Barrett dumping to his running backs. Samuel has 8 of 14 receptions for a total of 36 yards.
Ohio State is a very young team. Lot of underclassmen playing. They will only get better from here...
The play calling by Clemson is SO MUCH better than OSUs. It doesn't matter what the calls are now...game is over...but Clemson was so much more diverse and THREW THE BALL DOWNFIELD successfully ....OSU is only doing it now out of desperation. Chris Petersen--watch this game--throw the ball on first down so you loosen up the defense...and it opens up your running game.
Beautiful to see Mr. Meyer and Mr. Harbaugh lose on back to back nights. Maybe they aren't up for sainthood. They do have some flaws.
