OT: 2017 NCAA Men's Lacrosse Tourney - RU is out
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As much as I'd like that to be true you're living in a fantasy world. Also, Duke is up 9-3 in the second quarter, so save yourself the aggravation.
You're dreaming. BU has an RPI of 14, RU 12 and Duke 10.
Neither RU or Duke's RPI is moving that much based on one game.
Hell I didn't even attend y'all's school(my wife did) and know all about the RUScrew. Now at 9 pm I'm going to know exactly what it feels like.
Have to stop leaving it up to other people. Need to control your own destiny when you are anup and comer. Do not lose to UD or finish against MD and we are not sitting here upset.
Exactly! We have to stop blaming others and take it when it's on our grasp.
Come on, Shill, you are much smarter than that. We don't qualify for our own conference tournament and we're blaming other schools for "screwing" us by losing?
Oddly enough, it would be hard to find two schools I hate more than Syracuse and Notre Dame. (Well, one, maybe.) But still, we were in position to take care of business and did not.
Best lesson I ever learned as a coach was when you are a team that is new to winning you catch no breaks in seeding and from the refs. People never believe you are supposed to be there or doing that well. Prove everyone wrong so that the never can question that you deserve it. We just have to keep proving it.
I think with the record we have and the schedule they played, it's very hard to use this as an excuse. They current system is the problem and is outdated. It seems pretty clear that they need a larger playoff to account for the significant growth in the sport or adjust the automatic qualifying process.
I honestly don't see how you can blame Rutgers for this one. It's the RU screw, but not the typical version.
Couple of things:
1) The Delaware loss didn't put us in this position. Not beating Hopkins, Maryland or Penn St. did. We did well to position ourselves for that to matter. We must make the B1G tourney or somehow schedule another game if we were not to. I really think not having a game this weekend hurt us. Considering no acc team will play us, it might be a tall order to get a highly rated team in that position, but I'd like to see us try. Or have the format change. The B1G is just too good now to have the number 11 team sitting home while the conference tourney is going on. Either this or the system needs to change, which isn't happening. This tournament is not the best teams. And that's not good. But it is what it is.
2) We had a very solid year considering we lost two of our best players right before the season started. Ranked 11 and won some huge games. No consolation prizes, and know the staff isn't looking for any, but if you told me we'd be in this position when the season started, I wouldn't have believed it.
It bodes well. We have a ton coming back. There are real expectations moving forward, and it's more than just making the NCAA tournament. We got bit with the injury bug this season. Let's hope that doesn't happen again.
1) The Delaware loss didn't put us in this position. Not beating Hopkins, Maryland or Penn St. did. We did well to position ourselves for that to matter. We must make the B1G tourney or somehow schedule another game if we were not to. I really think not having a game this weekend hurt us. Considering no acc team will play us, it might be a tall order to get a highly rated team in that position, but I'd like to see us try. Or have the format change. The B1G is just too good now to have the number 11 team sitting home while the conference tourney is going on. Either this or the system needs to change, which isn't happening. This tournament is not the best teams. And that's not good. But it is what it is.
2) We had a very solid year considering we lost two of our best players right before the season started. Ranked 11 and won some huge games. No consolation prizes, and know the staff isn't looking for any, but if you told me we'd be in this position when the season started, I wouldn't have believed it.
It bodes well. We have a ton coming back. There are real expectations moving forward, and it's more than just making the NCAA tournament. We got bit with the injury bug this season. Let's hope that doesn't happen again.
No question we missed some opportunities. But if just one of the three unexpected results I mentioned went the other way we're celebrating the first NCAA bid in 13 years in a little over an hour.
I was never a coach (except 2nd assistant on my son's LL team one year.) You absolutely speak the truth. I would go a step farther and say when you are a team that is "not supposed to win" even if you have been winning alot lately. If you switch RU and UNC (exact same schedules and results) this year, "UNC" still gets in losing to Delaware and 5th in the B1G.
Hate to say it but as a ref we don't care who wins. We do not even know the records of teams we are reffing.
One thing is for certain. If we don't get in, we got incredibly unlucky. A resume like our's almost always gets in. We did everything we were accused of not doing last year.
Unlike last year, we truly can beat any team in that tournament this year.
Unlike last year, we truly can beat any team in that tournament this year.
My friends who ref follow the sport very closely and always know the names of the best players in the game let alone each teams record.
Must be nice to play in the minor leagues. We would murder Marquette or Yale in a tourney game.
I will be disappointed if we don't get in but I won't call it getting screwed. If we beat Delaware and Maryland like we should've (Del) and could've (Maryland) our resume would be stronger and we would be in. If we won both of those and still got snubbed, that would be getting screwed.
hope it's an all B1G final four. It can happen. It's gotta be a big let down to our guys but it sets expectations for next year. Gotta come to play every game.
The announcers even said these are not the best 16 teams. If your going to have a tournament and not include the top 16 then somethings wrong with your format. It's simply an outdated format run by an outdated committee. Friggin Monmouth made it for Pete's sake. We play them we blow them out. That's called getting screwed. The field is simply too small to have this many AQ's
When people talk about elite teams always getting the breaks they do. In football we used to break big plays when we were first rebuilding and we would always get a holding call or block in the back. When we started consistently doing it, and got good, the refs stopped throwing those flags.
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