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OT: 2019-20 NY Mets Offseason "Hot Stove" Thread

Why did you take my quote and mix it with a completely different quote of yours? That in itself should be a not be taken lightly by the mods. This was the post you made that I quoted. Please try to deny that you didn't just try to put words in my mouth and purposely mis-quoted me? @Richard Schnyderite this should not be allowed on the board

Kbee3 said:
I was a Yankees fan in 1962 when the Mets were created. They were possibly the worst MLB team I've ever seen.
I could never understand why fans in the New York metropolitan area could root for such an outfit. Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, and Yogi Berra were right there in the Bronx.
"Just a very silly comment. "
Yeah...that was my mistake. Even I make mistakes from time to time.
 
Yeah...that was my mistake. Even I make mistakes from time to time.
I’ve multi quoted tons of times and never seemed to mix them up but whatever...your convenient mistake made your story better...
 
The Met's are up for Auction - so that means they are open for business to be sold. They don't have the cash to keep the team going...so they need to sell the team.

They wont get the Steve Cohen money but for some strange reason Jeff Wilpon wanted to stay on for 5 years to F the team up more. Thats why Cohen go out.

Why would anyone buy the team for 2 Billion and have Jeff Wilpon run the team for 5 years?

Bizarre - and don't forget to send Bobby Bonilla his check from Bernie Madoffs account.

Peace out
 
The Met's are up for Auction - so that means they are open for business to be sold. They don't have the cash to keep the team going...so they need to sell the team.

They wont get the Steve Cohen money but for some strange reason Jeff Wilpon wanted to stay on for 5 years to F the team up more. Thats why Cohen go out.

Why would anyone buy the team for 2 Billion and have Jeff Wilpon run the team for 5 years?

Bizarre - and don't forget to send Bobby Bonilla his check from Bernie Madoffs account.

Peace out
Unless the buyer is a complete idiot, Jeff Wilpon will be the reason why the Mets will never be sold.
 
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MLB Top 10 right now at each position is now complete. Mets well represented:

1B - Alonso #3 - I get him being behind Freeman, but Muncy?
2B - N/A - Cano's days of being on this list are done.
SS - N/A - But make room for Rosario soon!
3B - McNeil #5 - I expect that's his ceiling, but not a bad ceiling.
LF - N/A - Is Cespedes destined to reclaim his position here?
CF - Nimmo #9 - Would Marte (#6) been that much of an upgrade?
RF - Conforto #9 - Seems about right.
C - Ramos #6 - Just goes to show that catcher is a premium position.
SP - deGrom #1 - Top billing is tough to maintain, but he'll be Top 5 for awhile.
RP - Lugo #7 - Maybe next year we get 3 of the Top 10.
 
MLB Top 10 right now at each position is now complete. Mets well represented:

1B - Alonso #3 - I get him being behind Freeman, but Muncy?
2B - N/A - Cano's days of being on this list are done.
SS - N/A - But make room for Rosario soon!
3B - McNeil #5 - I expect that's his ceiling, but not a bad ceiling.
LF - N/A - Is Cespedes destined to reclaim his position here?
CF - Nimmo #9 - Would Marte (#6) been that much of an upgrade?
RF - Conforto #9 - Seems about right.
C - Ramos #6 - Just goes to show that catcher is a premium position.
SP - deGrom #1 - Top billing is tough to maintain, but he'll be Top 5 for awhile.
RP - Lugo #7 - Maybe next year we get 3 of the Top 10.
Are the above for the NL or all of baseball?
 
I’m a Mets fan but can’t see either Nimmo or Conforto at 9.
I kind of agree with you about Nimmo. But remember that CF, like catcher, is a premium position. There just aren't enough good ones to go around. Especially considering that many CF's don't stay there for their entire careers. They lose a step and get moved to a corner position.

For example, just one spot behind Nimmo at #10 is Brett Gardner. He's not even a CF anymore, and has not been for years. He played there last year out of necessity.

On the other hand, I think Conforto is fully worthy of his ranking. He was #8 (in LF) going into last season, and did nothing to hurt himself. 33 HR, 92 RBI, .363/.494/.856 slash line. Very solid power numbers for a power position.
 
Interesting article on the Mets sale situation, from Yahoo Finance, quoting "a person familiar with the matter":
  • Team goes on the market tomorrow AM.
  • This time, there will be no delay in transition of control. New buyer can assume control immediately.
  • As a result, Wilpons expect to reap more than the $2.6B in the proposed Cohen deal.
  • This despite the fact that the Mets lose $50M per year. This is currently somewhat offset by SNY profits. However, the Wilpons are not including their SNY ownership stake in the deal. (They didn't with Cohen either.)
  • Interestingly, the unnamed source said that it was Cohen, not Wilpons, who sabotaged the deal by attempting to alter it at the 11th hour. Manfred has gone on record with a similar statement.
  • There will be buyers lining up for this. The opportunity to own a major NY sports franchise doesn't come every day.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/york-mets-sale-again-price-180741657.html
 
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Interesting article on the Mets sale situation, from Yahoo Finance, quoting "a person familiar with the matter":
  • Team goes on the market tomorrow AM.
  • This time, there will be no delay in transition of control. New buyer can assume control immediately.
  • As a result, Wilpons expect to reap more than the $2.6B in the proposed Cohen deal.
  • This despite the fact that the Mets lose $50M per year. This is currently somewhat offset by SNY profits. However, the Wilpons are not including their SNY ownership stake in the deal. (They didn't with Cohen either.)
  • Interestingly, the unnamed source said that it was Cohen, not Wilpons, who sabotaged the deal by attempting to alter it at the 11th hour. Manfred has gone on record with a similar statement.
  • There will be buyers lining up for this. The opportunity to own a major NY sports franchise doesn't come every day.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/york-mets-sale-again-price-180741657.html

So the new owner would have to either raise ticket prices to generate additional revenue or cut expenses such as salaries/operations needed to make the Mets profitable all because the Wilsons don't want to give up what is the profitable component of the business - SNY and the new owner is locked into SNY for broadcasts for a decade. Nice. Interesting to see who's going to buy this business and how they go about financially turning the Mets around without the ability to put broadcasting rights on the market.

The poor Mets fans are a glutton for punishment. Pathetically bad ownership correlates with Losing, especially in MLB, and the Wilpons are the worst.
 
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So the new owner would have to either raise ticket prices to generate additional revenue or cut expenses such as salaries/operations needed to make the Mets profitable all because the Wilsons don't want to give up what is the profitable component of the business - SNY and the new owner is locked into SNY for broadcasts for a decade. Nice. Interesting to see who's going to buy this business and how they go about financially turning the Mets around without the ability to put broadcasting rights on the market.

The poor Mets fans are a glutton for punishment. Pathetically bad ownership correlates with Losing, especially in MLB, and the Wilpons are the worst.
Maybe their selling the team to raise cash to put on No, No, Nanette on broadway. Worked for the red sox
 
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So the new owner would have to either raise ticket prices to generate additional revenue or cut expenses such as salaries/operations needed to make the Mets profitable all because the Wilsons don't want to give up what is the profitable component of the business - SNY and the new owner is locked into SNY for broadcasts for a decade. Nice. Interesting to see who's going to buy this business and how they go about financially turning the Mets around without the ability to put broadcasting rights on the market.

The poor Mets fans are a glutton for punishment. Pathetically bad ownership correlates with Losing, especially in MLB, and the Wilpons are the worst.
Or maybe the new owner isn't terribly concerned with profitability? Perhaps the expected capital appreciation, coupled with the cachet of owning an NY pro sports franchise, is reason enough for the purchase.

Anyone who can afford to buy a controlling interest of this team, can afford to spend $50M a year on his hobby. Cohen could. He can't be the only one. As the sports consultant quoted in the article stated, there will be buyers.

As you mentioned, SNY does not own the rights to Mets broadcasts in perpetuity. They do for another decade. Eventually those rights will revert to Met ownership.
 
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Interesting article on the Mets sale situation, from Yahoo Finance, quoting "a person familiar with the matter":
  • Team goes on the market tomorrow AM.
  • This time, there will be no delay in transition of control. New buyer can assume control immediately.
  • As a result, Wilpons expect to reap more than the $2.6B in the proposed Cohen deal.
  • This despite the fact that the Mets lose $50M per year. This is currently somewhat offset by SNY profits. However, the Wilpons are not including their SNY ownership stake in the deal. (They didn't with Cohen either.)
  • Interestingly, the unnamed source said that it was Cohen, not Wilpons, who sabotaged the deal by attempting to alter it at the 11th hour. Manfred has gone on record with a similar statement.
  • There will be buyers lining up for this. The opportunity to own a major NY sports franchise doesn't come every day.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/york-mets-sale-again-price-180741657.html
As I said when the Cohen deal was announced: I'll believe it when I see it. And for some reason MLB protects the Wilpons as if they are untouchable royalty. Maybe Jeff and Fred has some pics of other owners. Who knows.
 
So the new owner would have to either raise ticket prices to generate additional revenue or cut expenses such as salaries/operations needed to make the Mets profitable all because the Wilsons don't want to give up what is the profitable component of the business - SNY and the new owner is locked into SNY for broadcasts for a decade. Nice. Interesting to see who's going to buy this business and how they go about financially turning the Mets around without the ability to put broadcasting rights on the market.

The poor Mets fans are a glutton for punishment. Pathetically bad ownership correlates with Losing, especially in MLB, and the Wilpons are the worst.
This is where Tampas Chaim Bloom wouldve been perfect for the Mets GM spot... Not that goof, BVW.
 
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The Mets don't lose $50 million a year what a joke that is what they're saying.

Nimmo is so underrated here I've been saying it for months now.

More to come on the above.
 
The Mets don't lose $50 million a year what a joke that is what they're saying.

Nimmo is so underrated here I've been saying it for months now.

More to come on the above.
They may be losing that much if you exclude their SNY revenues, as this analysis does, because the Wilpons aren't giving that up.

Local TV deals are how big-market teams make their money. That is what distinguishes them from their small-market neighbors! Take SNY income away from the Mets, and you have the Royals.
 
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