OT: 2024 NJ HS Football Season…

[Bagarocks]

I have a 16 year old that would have started kindergarten at 4 yrs old.
We held him back. Instead of the youngest he's now one of the oldest. Maturity wise was the best thing to do.

What your speaking of is much different than trying to keep your child back or repeat a grade level for Football as this family did. #1 it gives him an advantage at his "grade level" 6th grade.
Wonder what the negatives are if any?

 

[batts]

HS!?
How bout 6th 7th and 8th graders.
One family I know of tried to have their child left back and were denied. they pulled him to Home teach.
The parents are living their own dreams...
One thing through the years you can see a kid here or there that is just above everyone else. Like Tommy Vigorito, he was on my brothers PAL team through the years, it was just plain to see.
His father played with Shula on the NY Titans.
When TV blew his knee out Shula saw to it to get him his 5 years for pension.

As a side note, I was coaching Wayne Juniors baseball in the late 70s. Tommy was signed up for my Team but he decided he was not going to play Juniors that year.

 

[RU at the shore]

Also saw recently that Donovan has a new OC in place. Any insight on him?

I did not see anything about a new OC , however since its not the old OC (Chip LaBarca, Jr) the program will be hurt on several levels. It is already happening.

 

[Plum Street]

Matawan’s youth travel program has 11 kids going to BC in the Fall. They had a good run to AYF nationals at the D1 level not so long ago. BC is definitely doing a great job recruiting.

Wow matawan to oradell every day ?

 

[ncas97]

Wow matawan to oradell every day

Matawan’s youth program was at the D-1 level (like Brick City, Silk City and Dark Knights) so they can recruit kids from anywhere and not just from their town. Son spent a spring season there and traveling from Robbinsville. Coaching was good, but we decided to move him to a program in Philly to get experience against tougher teams down there and the DMV.

There was a kid that was training with the same D Line coach my son is going to. He plays for Bergen Catholic and it sounded like he was living way down the Jersey Shore.

 

[ncas97]

I did not see anything about a new OC , however since its not the old OC (Chip LaBarca, Jr) the program will be hurt on several levels. It is already happening.

Jack Nascimento is the new OC. One of the coaches who has been in touch with my son also left Donovan this week.

 

[tico brown]

Jack Nascimento is the new OC. One of the coaches who has been in touch with my son also left Donovan this week.

Jeez… what’s going on down there with Donovan?

They were one of the better programs, if not one of the best, down the shore.

 

[Ray6232010]

I have a 16 year old that would have started kindergarten at 4 yrs old.
We held him back. Instead of the youngest he's now one of the oldest. Maturity wise was the best thing to do.

What your speaking of is much different than trying to keep your child back or repeat a grade level for Football as this family did. #1 it gives him an advantage at his "grade level" 6th grade.
Wonder what the negatives are if any?

I wish I would have done that. It makes a big difference. My daughter has teammates that have their driver's license before her but she's a Sr.and they're Jr's

 

[KK1827]

Camps open around the state on Monday and state still hasnt released groupings yet. Kinda crazy

 

[Mr_Twister]

Years ago worked with an old timer whose fondest sports memory was playing football for tiny Glen Ridge HS and beating an undefeated Montclair HS team in the mid-1940s.

 

[LetsGoRUwrestling]

Jeez… what’s going on down there with Donovan?

They were one of the better programs, if not one of the best, down the shore.

Heard their not accepting kids anymore that are "Grey Shirts" and not able to bring anyone they want and give them funding...They will go back to their 2-7 seasons like in past

 

[KK1827]

And they did in fact come out today. Most notable movement in north jersey is both hillside and shabazz landing in group 2. Stacked group 2 with tons of talent between those two @tico brown

 

[cubuffsdoug]

The Catholic schools really helped kill the history and tradition of highschool football in New Jersey by their recruiting arms race. I first noticed that in my home town in Wayne in the early 80s when the better players in Wayne started to enroll in DePaul Highshool instead of attending Wayne Valley and Wayne Hills. At least two of the players that went to DePaul made it to the NFL (Tommy Vigorito and Vyto Kab).

The Catholic schools destroyed the oldest league (NNJIL) in the state. In the late 1970s/early 1980s, the big four parochial schools of Bergen County wanted to join the NNJIL (public schools) but were denied by the courts. The parochial league was dissolved to clear a path to joining the NNJIL. The courts eventually settled the matter by adding public and parochial schools to the league, which went from 9 teams to an 18-team league. Several coaches from existing league members said the league wouldn't last another 25 years, which turned out to be accurate. The league dissolved after 112 years.

 

[tico brown]

And they did in fact come out today. Most notable movement in north jersey is both hillside and shabazz landing in group 2. Stacked group 2 with tons of talent between those two @tico brown

I haven’t seen the new classifications yet. Can you send me a link?

But as a Bulldog who was at Shabazz when we had 900 kids, good to see that they have enough kids to bump up to Group 2. As much as people think that Charter Schools is the bees knees or whatever, they have for the most part have not the better than regular publics, which has taken money, resources, and kids away from the publics.

Just like I just posted in the “DJ McClary to an All Star Game” thread, this is the time for public schools like Shabazz, Weequahic to get their acts together and do well for their kids while Prep and Hudson are currently struggling Big Time. Hell, Newark Central, Barringer, and Newark East Side may surprise some people this year. Those teams have some decent kids. It’s up to those coaches to get them ready.

 

[JoeRU0304]

The Catholic schools destroyed the oldest league (NNJIL) in the state. In the late 1970s/early 1980s, the big four parochial schools of Bergen County wanted to join the NNJIL (public schools) but were denied by the courts. The parochial league was dissolved to clear a path to joining the NNJIL. The courts eventually settled the matter by adding public and parochial schools to the league, which went from 9 teams to an 18-team league. Several coaches from existing league members said the league wouldn't last another 25 years, which turned out to be accurate. The league dissolved after 112 years.

BC was strong in the early 90's but for the middle/ end of the decade St Joe's ruled the roost, with Hackensack being the public juggernaut. PC would be good like once every 3-5 years. Bosco was pedestrian largely until a 6-3 season in '97 (their best since 1990). When they got Toal that was the first major domino IMO that lead to the current situation as he ended up taking them to a level of success almost unprecedented in NJ HS football history. I consider this *the* main flashpoint that changed NJ HS football forever, for better and worse.

IIRC the initial realignment was spearheaded by Nutley and Paramus back in the early 2000's (after Bosco started their ascension). Paramus publicly stated they wanted out of the NNJIL and I think wanted in to maybe one of the bigger divisions of the BCSL. The NJSIAA denied the request, but the NNJIL attempted to mitigate the issue by discarding the Essex-Passaic/ Bergen then Atlantic/Pacific format (which was in place from I think 1987/88-2001) for an 'A, B, C' division format, with C being the parochials, A being the stronger publics (Ridgewood, Montclair, Bloomfield, Clifton, Nutley, Hackensack, Teaneck) and B being the struggling publics (Barringer, Belleville, Paramus, Passaic, Paterson Eastside and Kennedy). I think they would adjust A and B by records every few years.

The parochial margins of victory began to increase seemingly expontentially alongside the intensity of recruiting. This I think is the next major flashpoint where things heated up in a hurry. The first major realignment took place with the dismantling of the NNJIL, Iron Hills and Watchung conferences and the formation of the SEC and Tri-County Conferences. Another 'watershed' moment happened when Kearny chose to forfeit a game to St Peters instead of play it out. More realignment happened (formation of the Big North). Another big event was Partridge to PC, where he destroyed the unwritten rule of recruiting fellow parochials (I think this gets severely overlooked as another major event that changed the landscape) and things kept progressing as they did until we arrive to where we are at today.

Joe P.

 

[Section124]

BC was strong in the early 90's but for the middle/ end of the decade St Joe's ruled the roost, with Hackensack being the public juggernaut. PC would be good like once every 3-5 years. Bosco was pedestrian largely until a 6-3 season in '97 (their best since 1990). When they got Toal that was the first major domino IMO that lead to the current situation as he ended up taking them to a level of success almost unprecedented in NJ HS football history. I consider this *the* main flashpoint that changed NJ HS football forever, for better and worse.

IIRC the initial realignment was spearheaded by Nutley and Paramus back in the early 2000's (after Bosco started their ascension). Paramus publicly stated they wanted out of the NNJIL and I think wanted in to maybe one of the bigger divisions of the BCSL. The NJSIAA denied the request, but the NNJIL attempted to mitigate the issue by discarding the Essex-Passaic/ Bergen then Atlantic/Pacific format (which was in place from I think 1987/88-2001) for an 'A, B, C' division format, with C being the parochials, A being the stronger publics (Ridgewood, Montclair, Bloomfield, Clifton, Nutley, Hackensack, Teaneck) and B being the struggling publics (Barringer, Belleville, Paramus, Passaic, Paterson Eastside and Kennedy). I think they would adjust A and B by records every few years.

The parochial margins of victory began to increase seemingly expontentially alongside the intensity of recruiting. This I think is the next major flashpoint where things heated up in a hurry. The first major realignment took place with the dismantling of the NNJIL, Iron Hills and Watchung conferences and the formation of the SEC and Tri-County Conferences. Another 'watershed' moment happened when Kearny chose to forfeit a game to St Peters instead of play it out. More realignment happened (formation of the Big North). Another big event was Partridge to PC, where he destroyed the unwritten rule of recruiting fellow parochials (I think this gets severely overlooked as another major event that changed the landscape) and things kept progressing as they did until we arrive to where we are at today.

Joe P.

Nice summary. SJR was playing Paramus, Wayne Hills and Ramapo until around 2010-2011. All competitive games and Ramapo won in 2010 I believe at SJR. It all changed when SJR broke WH win streak I think that same year. Publics revolted. Those were great games since SJR and DePaul were non-public 3 at the time. Bosco was a different level at the time.

 

[KK1827]

Nice summary. SJR was playing Paramus, Wayne Hills and Ramapo until around 2010-2011. All competitive games and Ramapo won in 2010 I believe at SJR. It all changed when SJR broke WH win streak I think that same year. Publics revolted. Those were great games since SJR and DePaul were non-public 3 at the time. Bosco was a different level at the time.

Parochials are now all star teams. When I was in high school 2006-2009, publics used to beat up on seton hall prep delbarton and depaul. All were in public school leagues

 

[JoeRU0304]

Nice summary. SJR was playing Paramus, Wayne Hills and Ramapo until around 2010-2011. All competitive games and Ramapo won in 2010 I believe at SJR. It all changed when SJR broke WH win streak I think that same year. Publics revolted. Those were great games since SJR and DePaul were non-public 3 at the time. Bosco was a different level at the time.

That was another 'flashpoint' that I think lead to the formation of the Big North-United division with most of the parochials being housed there. When the Peppers-DBP-PC saga details came out it really illustrated just how far gone the situation had become.

Joe P.

 

[tico brown]

I should’ve posted this question earlier because there’s some good bangers going on right now (12:12pm, 8/19/24)…

Any good scrimmages going on in the next two weeks that should hold fans until Week Zero???

 

[Rutgers NJ]

I should’ve posted this question earlier because there’s some good bangers going on right now (12:12pm, 8/19/24)…

Any good scrimmages going on in the next two weeks that should hold fans until Week Zero???

Here you go. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/shore-conference-football-2024-scrimmage-schedule/ar-AA1onqpZ

 

[Rutgers NJ]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...g-can-t-miss-scrimmages-aug-19-28/ar-AA1oUVhe

 

[tico brown]

Week Zero starting today, mainly down the shore in Ocean City at The Battle At The Beach.

Manchester HS already beat West Deptford 26-21 in the first game.

 

[tico brown]

Second game of The Battle At The Beach will be in a few with A BANGER: Mainland vs Atlantic City.

Mainland’s Wing T that RAN THE CLOCK AT HALFTIME on freaking RAMAPO at Rutgers vs Atlantic City’s passing game with one of the best WRs in NJ: Rutgers Commit Sah’nye Degraffenreidt

 

[tico brown]

 

[tico brown]

Degraffenreidt’s 2nd TD of the game.

 

[tico brown]

Mainland 30 Atlantic City 18
Shayne Degraffenriedt: 2 TD Receptions

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Bergen Catholic vs IMG is some headliner.

 

[vkj91]

Bergen Catholic vs IMG is some headliner.

IMG lost week 1

 

[newell138]

Our QB commit Sidwar and Lasalle play at OC tomorrow's night

 

[tico brown]

Bergen Catholic vs IMG is some headliner.

It’s too bad it’s not even on YouTube, let alone on tv.

 

[tico brown]

 

[tico brown]

First game of Battle At The Beach, Day 2 at Egg Harbor Township HS:

 

[tico brown]

Second game of the BATB between Northern Highlands vs Washington Twp is in first quarter with WT up 6-0. Thankfully, this game is on YouTube instead of some paywall from some goof podcaster.

 

[tico brown]

It is now 42-20 Hillside in the 4th after being 20-20 at the half. @Richie O might want to make a call up to JC to see what’s up with DJ McClary because the horrible NFHS Network announcer said that McClary got hurt and hasn’t played since halftime.

 

[tico brown]

 

[tico brown]

 

[Myrtleknight]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/pcti-shooting-football-game/

 

[Richie O]

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It is now 42-20 Hillside in the 4th after being 20-20 at the half. @Richie O might want to make a call up to JC to see what’s up with DJ McClary because the horrible NFHS Network announcer said that McClary got hurt and hasn’t played since halftime.

Cramped at half time, he’s good to go moving forward.

 

[tico brown]

Cramped at half time, he’s good to go moving forward.

Good to hear. Game got away from Snyder while he was out.

 

[tico brown]

Millville WR Lotzier Brooks on this 99 yd TD reception broke the NJ TD Receptions Record during Millville’s 35-0demolition of Holy Spirit at the “Battle At The Beach.”