OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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Mets Spring Breakout Roster
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PITCHERS
Blade Tidwell, RHP, No. 10
Brandon Sproat, RHP, No. 13
Dominic Hamel, RHP, No. 14
Tyler Stuart, RHP, No. 18
Nolan McLean, RHP, No. 19
Calvin Ziegler, RHP, No. 22
Paul Gervase, RHP, NR
Daniel Juarez, LHP, NR
Wilkin Ramos, RHP, NR
Ben Simon, RHP, NR
CATCHERS
Kevin Parada, C, No. 9
Ronald Hernandez, C, No. 20
Vincent Perozo, C, NR
INFIELDERS
Jett Williams, SS, No. 1 (MLB No. 45)
Luisangel Acuña, SS, No. 3 (MLB No. 66)
Colin Houck, SS, No. 7
Marco Vargas, INF, No. 8
Jeremy Rodriguez, SS, No. 12
Jacob Reimer, 3B, No. 15
Jesus Baez, SS, No. 21
William Lugo, INF, NR
Junior Tilien, INF, NR
OUTFIELDERS
Drew Gilbert, OF, No. 2 (MLB No. 53)
Ryan Clifford, OF, No. 4 (MLB No. 97)
Alex Ramírez, OF, No. 16
Nick Morabito, OF, No. 26
Rhylan Thomas, OF, No. 30
Here's the Mets' Spring Breakout roster
PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- When the Mets acquired three prospects at the 2023 Trade Deadline for Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander, the immediate payoff may have seemed hard to see. It will appear a lot closer on March 15, when those three prospects -- outfielders Drew Gilbert and Ryan
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PITCHERS
Blade Tidwell, RHP, No. 10
Brandon Sproat, RHP, No. 13
Dominic Hamel, RHP, No. 14
Tyler Stuart, RHP, No. 18
Nolan McLean, RHP, No. 19
Calvin Ziegler, RHP, No. 22
Paul Gervase, RHP, NR
Daniel Juarez, LHP, NR
Wilkin Ramos, RHP, NR
Ben Simon, RHP, NR
CATCHERS
Kevin Parada, C, No. 9
Ronald Hernandez, C, No. 20
Vincent Perozo, C, NR
INFIELDERS
Jett Williams, SS, No. 1 (MLB No. 45)
Luisangel Acuña, SS, No. 3 (MLB No. 66)
Colin Houck, SS, No. 7
Marco Vargas, INF, No. 8
Jeremy Rodriguez, SS, No. 12
Jacob Reimer, 3B, No. 15
Jesus Baez, SS, No. 21
William Lugo, INF, NR
Junior Tilien, INF, NR
OUTFIELDERS
Drew Gilbert, OF, No. 2 (MLB No. 53)
Ryan Clifford, OF, No. 4 (MLB No. 97)
Alex Ramírez, OF, No. 16
Nick Morabito, OF, No. 26
Rhylan Thomas, OF, No. 30
Still don’t understand why we drafted Parada.
Alvarez was primed for a promotion to the big club a year later and would probably block Parada forever.
Alvarez was primed for a promotion to the big club a year later and would probably block Parada forever.
it is always about best available talent...it takes these kids years to even sniff the show, never draft based on positional need- unless you just want to break it down to pitcher or hitter
Yes, because prospects are just that. You need to be deep at positions with the hope that one can make it or at least have some trade assets to work with if a prospect is blocked.
Why not ?
If I have a possible franchise catcher - I don’t need another catcher. Why draft another in round1? Makes no sense !
Last time I looked , you can only play 1 catcher at a time.
If I have Patrick Mahomes / Joe Burrow / Josh Allen- am I going to draft a qb in the first round ? No.
You should draft based on need and position availability in first few rounds !
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Three reasons:
1) Key word in your response is "possible".
2) Catcher is a premium position (perhaps THE premium position) with high trade value. If you have two possible franchise catchers you can trade one. First world problem.
3) If the player is primarily drafted for his bat, as Parada was, he can always be moved to a non-premium position if needed.
And in a sport like football- a premium drafted player is already out there proving himself a flop or a success in year 1 or 2. In baseball- even the top 5 drafted players take at least 3 years to even sniff the show.
There really aren’t many sure things in the baseball draft.
I'm going to be this guy but that's not true either. 3 of the top 5 from the draft last year will be up this year and all be studs. HS guys can take 3 years sometimes but the 2 HS guys in top 5 last year but might it quick as well.
ok ok- maybe top 5 but a majority of 1st rounders will be taking 3+ years. Maybe a kid with 3 years of college may take two but very rare to have a sure thing.
Getting back to the post that spurred the Parada/prospects discussion, I wasn't paying too much attention to the breakout thing until they started releasing rosters. I know it's a little gimmicky, but I still think it's a pretty cool concept.
I understand and greatly value your point but I just don't agree with the rationale.
I'm saying this with 20 / 20 hindsight but it's how I felt when the Mets originally drafted Parada.
There was just no need to draft Parada with Alvarez blocking him.
My rationale is when you draft someone high it's with the intent to develop / keep him and nurture your home grown players as such to upgrade the team - not with the intent to possibly trade him.
When in doubt - always draft pitching and/or an Oufielder....:)
The counter to your point is that Alvarez by all accounts was going to be a success when Parada was drafted.
Thus no need to draft Parada.
For the short term and long term, team would have been much better served drafting a pitcher or an outfielder given the Alvarez situation.
I'll be going to some Lakewood / Binghamton games this year and hopefully Parada proves me wrong !
The problem with Parada so far is not that he’s a catcher. It’s been that he’s not all that good.
No love for shortstops? Teams draft a ton of shortstops, especially HS, because that's where coaches put their best players. Half of them get moved eventually.
You're right !
SS is a premier position and can always convert the SS to 2B or 3B or OF.
Or to pitcher like deGrom was. Best arms, best players are always put at SS. Many, many moons ago, I just moved to a town where they had the coaches do little league drafts. The previous years coaches would evaluate the position they played best. As the draft went along each coach was filling out their little charts and filling out at least one player for each position. All I did was draft SS until no more were on the board. One coach who turned out to be a dick laughed at me saying how are you going to compete with a roster like that. My answer was if they were a SS, I'll teach them to be able to play anywhere including catcher. Need I say we beat his team twice in the regular season and in the Championship game. Young kids for sure, but the SS I turned into a catcher became an All Shore Varsity catcher years later. He's till this day best friends with both my sons and his parents are good friends with me. Draft SS until the best value dictates otherwise, then pitchers and as many left handers as posible.
If your offense is well constructed, the short stop can be a guy where everyone in the ball park is happy when they see ground ball hit to him.
You will never win or contend with a SS that doesn’t save runs by making every routine play and flawlessly turning 2.
I don’t care if he hits a ton, you’ll lose more games if he can’t make all the plays than you’ll win… period
You will never win or contend with a SS that doesn’t save runs by making every routine play and flawlessly turning 2.
I don’t care if he hits a ton, you’ll lose more games if he can’t make all the plays than you’ll win… period
I had also questioned it but the thought is that 1) injuries happen
2) a good young catcher is great trade bait
Yes to all this. Most every best player in my little league and Babe Ruth played both shortstop and pitcher. Toward the end of Babe Ruth into High School and American Legion things started to sort themselves out as to positions.
Right fielders require strong arms because preventing first to third becomes important.
1st baseman who can field their position and not just catch the ball wins games.
Very important is learning the importance of keeping trail runners from taking the extra base on overthrows because you’ve learned in cut offs and relays at an early age to always line yourself up according to the lead runner.
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Yeah, I eventually moved from SS to 1B when my speed (or lack thereof) became too obvious, and I recall the different and significant cutoff duties of a first basemen. But, then again, I knew about them because I'd been playing a while. Just a matter of developing the new habits. Then there were little things that you had to learn, like not stretching toward the fielder before the throw but instead waiting for the throw so that you can adjust your feet on the bag and lean or stretch in the right direction depending on the throw--or come off the bad to get or smother a bad throw. What a great game baseball is.
I was playing senior softball with my brother and got so fed up with outfielders trying to throw out lead runners, while the hitter took the extra base.
I took all the old farts aside and told them forget all the cutoffs and relays you learned in little league and you still apply.
Throw the ball to me standing on second, keep the hitter/trail runner at first and we will win far more games….they were amazed at how we reduced big innings
I took all the old farts aside and told them forget all the cutoffs and relays you learned in little league and you still apply.
Throw the ball to me standing on second, keep the hitter/trail runner at first and we will win far more games….they were amazed at how we reduced big innings
They should have held onto Vogelbach for that squad. Their lo$$. 😏We have addressed our shortcomings. World Series here we come!!
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You reminded me of some of the dumbest things I have experienced in adult softball. Up in Poughkeepsie in the 80’s- IBM had a pretty competitive league, as did the town of Poughkeepsie- I played SS in both.
I couldn’t believe I had to even argue the following.
A play with no shift- ball hit back to the pitcher with a man on 1st- SS takes the throw at 2nd for a double play every time. It happened that in the IBM league the 2B was the work director and he wanted it. And playing for “Pete’s Mobile” - some people might know them- big time slow pitch in the 80’s- the 2B was an ex college player. Same thing- argued it goes to the 2B
I used to just shake my head. Cutoffs were the same thing.
everyone is always invited...just keep it to civilized baseball talk
i just saw on the Yankee thread why you said that- keep in mind- T2K- sort of started that one. I just hope baseball fans on here can just enjoy the season. if a yankee fan, philly fan, etc wants to post here and talk baseball or even just fun natured poking- enjoy it and have fun.
That one Yankee fan who is aways in every Mets thread talking ish.....was he doing so when Senga went on the shelf? I would hate to see that Garrett Cole's mri brings some bad news for him as a Yankee fan.
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Throw 'em out: How Francisco Alvarez, Mets are aiming to shut down base stealers in 2024
One of Francisco Alvarez's main focuses coming into the 2024 season is to help the Mets neutralize opposing base stealers.
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What's too late? NO negative comment from my post. What a drama queen you are. You don't need an invite, just come in and make an ass of yourself as always..
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Only if shortbus keeps being a drama queen or queen in general. Nothing I posted got under anyone's skin but shortbus,lol. Check it out. I think he drinks his stock rather than loading the store coolers. Hint for a poorly educated like you, the "time stamp" is a powerful tool to show your statement is false. Enjoy the baseball season as it's the best sport in the world.PS. Are you still a lonely, miserable hateful person we've all come to feel sorry for?
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You really can't help yourself. First you are the one that says you never go on the Yankees thread which is always a lie, this year you couldn't make it out of spring training! 🤣🤣
Besides being too stupid about baseball salaries apparently you can't tell time either. Your Yankees thread post was before mine on here. I love how every time you try to come after me it backfires on you as you keep showing just stupid you are. Go look at the time stamps again! You make it so easy!!
Time stamp was in reference to there was no bad response to what I posted to you coming into the Mets thread stating there was moron. Last season,I didn't make one post in the Yankee thread,zero. Years past, I made plenty. I promise,I won't post in The Dead Zone this season until both the Yankees and Mets are eliminated. You are entertaining to watch though as you burn though thread after thread on a variety of topics leaving a wake of enemies. Comical.
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