OT: NY Rangers 2024-2025 Thread
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Mika strong on the puck behind his own net, good job.
Brind’Amour would sit him for the period if he was coach
Brind’Amour would sit him for the period if he was coach
It's partially exaggerated because I'm a Rangers fan, but you can't tell me the Rangers dont have multiple cups if Brindy was behind the bench the past 10-12 years.
HockeyStatCards puts out a report for each game and last night the top 12 players were Blackhawks, followed by Cuylle and then soon after Shesterkin, Jones, and Mancini.
You won’t be surprised that the bottom of the list is basically the Rangers top 2 lines and top 2 defensive pairs.
Ugly.
K’Andre has Victor Hedmen ability with mental issues.
He’s fragile, he thinks critical evaluation and questioning of his decision making is abusive… he requires a safe space.
His decision making has been horrible all along. The first time I watched him play was in the WJC the winter after he was drafted. His talent was obvious, but I remember the US giving up a goal totally because he made a horrendous decision to pinch when he had virtually no chance of gaining the puck. He still makes the exact same mistake.
Another thing I have noticed is that as much as his reach is an advantage, and he over relies on it, he has trouble when the puck gets around his feet like on the second goal last night.
His reach is the attribute that's preventing him from being in street clothes. It bails him out of countless positional / decision errors.
There's been two positives of the season and it's been Cuylle and Jones. The former is going to be a very good player for NYR, and the latter will be a good player but (sadly) probably not in NY.
I don't know what Drury is waiting for. The core has been collectively and individually terrible. Lavs has no answer. I get that it's early-ish but they're barely holding on. How much different is this from the letter?
The difference is that last time the only player who was not only guaranteed not to be traded but also guaranteed not to have their job status (as in deployment) threatened was Lundqvist.
This time they act like there are 6-8 guys who are untouchable for some reason. For example, why are we acting like those 5 players on the first power play unit can’t be messed with? Their performance doesn’t justify that. In addition, are we just going to ignore that Fox has been a shell of his former self since he took that knee on knee hit in the Washington series last spring?
I think Laviolette has to go. The team is soft and the stars aren't playing well. The right coach will hold players like Mika accountable for their mistakes. Play your best-performing players more and limit ice time for those who aren't doing their job. If Drury doesn't make a change soon the season will get away quickly.
It’s a logical thought process, but I think you could just as easily make the argument that Drury is the one that needs to go. If his handling of Trouba & Goodrow over the offseason is at the root of the issues we’re seeing now, then I’m not sure what firing Lav accomplishes.
Problem is — we don’t even know if firing Drury does anything. As @krup mentioned earlier, who’s the one really pulling the strings and who’s the root cause of the current problems. Is it the players? Is it Lav? Is it Drury? Is it Sather? Is it Dolan? Gotta answer that question first.
Laviolette watched that performance on Monday and decided that 6 other forwards needed more even strength ice time than Cuylle.
How can a coach not see that opportunity to send a message about effort?
That's why he needs to go. I never like the Lav hire and I think it was you who mentioned he has history of things going to shit in year 3. I don't like his dated philosophy - reminds me of Zeus offense - and clearly team isn't responding to him.
I just watched them beat Buffalo. They were lifeless throughout, barely skated in the third, and other than 2 perfect shots off the post and in, Shesty was great.
I thought our 4th line did (and usually does) exactly what you want a 4th line to do. Use a strong forecheck to keep puck possession in the offensive zone to keep pressure off your own end. Carrick making a real nice entry on the 2nd goal was a bonus.
Beyond that, I was surprised that the performance wasn’t much different than the Chicago game. I thought at some point pride would push them to put a good game together.
Two non playoff teams battling it out last night.
Buffalo the better 3rd period team as was Chicago
Buffalo the better 3rd period team as was Chicago
Time to face reality!
This team has had a very good run, outside of just 3 years, we’ve been relevant and fun since 2005, pretty damn good.
We are now dregs, one of the worst and easiest teams in the league to play against.
If storied franchises like Montreal, Detroit and Chicago can stink, so can we.
This needs to be rebuilt imo
This team has had a very good run, outside of just 3 years, we’ve been relevant and fun since 2005, pretty damn good.
We are now dregs, one of the worst and easiest teams in the league to play against.
If storied franchises like Montreal, Detroit and Chicago can stink, so can we.
This needs to be rebuilt imo
With each passing day, I lean more towards tearing it all down. Keep the young core that we think are stars, but outside of that, no one is untouchable. Problem is — if that’s what we end up doing, I’m not sure I would have given Igor $11.5M per year only to waste the majority of his best years on a rebuild, especially when his trade value would have been sky high.
One thing that makes us unique I think ClassOf02…The best goalie in the world in his prime….such a shame
I believe his NMC doesn’t kick in until the end of this season and the beginning of his next contract.
I know the trade market for him with that deal would be different than what it would have been for a rental, but it would be worth looking into.
That’s good info, thanks. So we possibly have some maneuverability between now and the end of this season (if the collapse hits rock bottom) even if the market may be more limited now.
I dunno though — NYR brass seems to value having the best goaltender in the world more than they value building a team that’s strong down the middle with good strong on-puck defense and a heavy forecheck (ya know, what typically wins in the playoffs).
Let’s face it, one of the big problems with NYR brass, and by that I mean ownership, is that they overvalue the revenue of fairly regular playoff appearances and they had no problem with the Rangers of the last few years falling short while averaging 6-7 home playoff games.
What gets them upset is when it looks like they will miss the playoffs, building a playoff team that can’t win a Cup doesn’t bother them nearly as much.
I hope for his sake Kakko was held out for an impending trade.
I would hate to think the coach watched this team play over the last month and decided Kakko was the guy who deserved a healthy scratch.
I don't think the Rangers are a hard fix, they have an elite goalie locked up and I really like their young forwards now in the lineup and in the pipeline, especially Perreault.
It's the blue line that needs to be addressed, Fox, Schneider and Mancini you keep and you got a good one in EJ Emery at North Dakota.
You still need a #1 center and I think you can find it in the UFA market.
And there is always McDavid.
It's the blue line that needs to be addressed, Fox, Schneider and Mancini you keep and you got a good one in EJ Emery at North Dakota.
You still need a #1 center and I think you can find it in the UFA market.
And there is always McDavid.
Ronnie, I know you are a proud and loyal Devils fan. So, I really appreciate your solid “neutral” analysis here. Not everyone can do it without the usual nonsense and boring, backhanded troll bullshit. It shows really great character and great hockey smarts on your part. And IMO, you are spot on. I think the D was like 75% of NYR’s problems. The next 25% was a real 1C.
But, they are in a tailspin now, and heads will probably rightfully roll. So, who knows where it all ends up.
I’m admittedly not the biggest Kakko fan, or Laf either for that matter.
Neither one of them creates space for themselves or others imo..
But simple math tells me you can’t bench the guy who’s plus 10, when you got bums running around at minus 15
Neither one of them creates space for themselves or others imo..
But simple math tells me you can’t bench the guy who’s plus 10, when you got bums running around at minus 15
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Zap, I’m not sure I even care much about stats & production right now. I wanna see guys on the ice that are putting forth effort. Too many talented “stars” who are half-assing it out there.
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i don’t know if anyone will get the Brady Bunch reference, but I am starting to think there is a cursed tiki idol that a Ranger defensemen must wear each game that causes them to make stupid pinches in the offensive zone against their will.
Ever since Miller went out Jones is picking up the slack and making the same kind of mistakes Miller would.
When the Rangers watch the tape of their games with the coaches it has to be incredibly embarrassing.
One and done in O zone, complete inability to clear out of their own zone, endless grade A chances and odd man rushes.
What do they think watching themselves get thrown around like reg dolls?
It’s gotta be holy shite are we awful
One and done in O zone, complete inability to clear out of their own zone, endless grade A chances and odd man rushes.
What do they think watching themselves get thrown around like reg dolls?
It’s gotta be holy shite are we awful
I would really like to know why. You don't win the President Cup by mistake. Did they lose a stud to FA? Injuries? What the hell happened?
I mean last year I remember the Rangers getting extremely lucky analytically (shooting % wise & puck possession wise), they were just getting big saves from Igor. He has not been getting the big one this year thus far. Also it has historically been some combination of Panarin, Fox, Mike and Kreider on the score sheet. Laf too here and there.
Those guys have all gone cold and nobody outside of Cuyulle has stepped up. Laf has been bad since he signed his extension, Fox looks old somehow, Kreider and mike look disinterested ( I think the trade talk has them pissed, along with how Goodrow and Trouba were treated)
Those guys have all gone cold and nobody outside of Cuyulle has stepped up. Laf has been bad since he signed his extension, Fox looks old somehow, Kreider and mike look disinterested ( I think the trade talk has them pissed, along with how Goodrow and Trouba were treated)
Trocheck gets too much of a pass for how things have gone with him this year, and that has definitely impacted Lafreniere’s production.
