OT: NY Rangers 2024-2025 Thread

[krup]

He’s an idiot but not wrong calling out how soft they are.
When players have confidence they can rely on their structure, system and coaches, they perform without thinking and react.

Rangers have no confidence in system or coaches, all they do is over think and over react…a complete cluster f’k.

Players mishandle pucks and make mistakes all the time on great teams, structure and system picks them up.

Every mistake the Rangers make turns into a grade A or a goal against… you can’t play like that, they are scared to death

I try to give Avery as little attention as possible, but I did notice he has a horrifically bad take on Cuylle a few weeks ago.

To your other comments, I struggle to understand what the Rangers’ goal even is when it comes to the offensive zone besides “make cross ice pass to try and get open shot”.

If there was any kind of structured forecheck that the players believed in and actually stuck to there’s no way they could allow the amount of odd man rushes they do. I suspect the Rangers have a “framework” for what they are doing, but certain of the forwards are deferred to and allowed to freelance with the result being chaos.

 

[zappaa]

I try to give Avery as little attention as possible, but I did notice he has a horrifically bad take on Cuylle a few weeks ago.

To your other comments, I struggle to understand what the Rangers’ goal even is when it comes to the offensive zone besides “make cross ice pass to try and get open shot”.

If there was any kind of structured forecheck that the players believed in and actually stuck to there’s no way they could allow the amount of odd man rushes they do. I suspect the Rangers have a “framework” for what they are doing, but certain of the forwards are deferred to and allowed to freelance with the result being chaos.

Larry Brooks (NY Post) is adamant it’s not the coaches,
I argue with him about system and philosophy and he counters with “under 3 different coaches”
He believes the Rangers do not have the personnel to play the take away time and space game you need to compete against good teams today.
Even the Rangers power play is rushed and harassed now

 

[TM94goRU]

He’s an idiot but not wrong calling out how soft they are.
When players have confidence they can rely on their structure, system and coaches, they perform without thinking and react.

Rangers have no confidence in system or coaches, all they do is over think and over react…a complete cluster f’k.

Players mishandle pucks and make mistakes all the time on great teams, structure and system picks them up.

Every mistake the Rangers make turns into a grade A or a goal against… you can’t play like that, they are scared to death

I always thought of him as an idiot but I stumbled across his breakdown of the game and found it entertaining. So much so I wanted to share it here, where unlike the pitiful Devils thread, constantly has good hockey talk on it.

Your commentary about your team is spot on. I still think the Rangers will be in the Top 3. Personally I think the GM Drury has contributed alot to the recent struggles. After Goodrow told him he didn't want to go back to San Jose, Drury talks to the Sharks and cuts him so they can pick him up. Then your Captain Trouba's situation. He wanted the NYR as much for his wife's career. This was known when he signed, and her medical residency is still going on, so a good GM knows, no trade. Simply put to tell you what you already know 😂, the Rangers have not been treating their players right. As such being human with seemingly most NAME players on the trade block, they are not locked in on winning games. This is the whole thing IMHO, and I didn't even mention Mika or Chris being on the block, or the goalie contract. Maybe James Dolan never gave Drury autonomy. I LOL, to you and the rest here I say hang in there it's a long season.

 

[krup]

I always thought of him as an idiot but I stumbled across his breakdown of the game and found it entertaining. So much so I wanted to share it here, where unlike the pitiful Devils thread, constantly has good hockey talk on it.

Your commentary about your team is spot on. I still think the Rangers will be in the Top 3. Personally I think the GM Drury has contributed alot to the recent struggles. After Goodrow told him he didn't want to go back to San Jose, Drury talks to the Sharks and cuts him so they can pick him up. Then your Captain Trouba's situation. He wanted the NYR as much for his wife's career. This was known when he signed, and her medical residency is still going on, so a good GM knows, no trade. Simply put to tell you what you already know 😂, the Rangers have not been treating their players right. As such being human with seemingly most NAME players on the trade block, they are not locked in on winning games. This is the whole thing IMHO, and I didn't even mention Mika or Chris being on the block, or the goalie contract. Maybe James Dolan never gave Drury autonomy. I LOL, to you and the rest here I say hang in there it's a long season.

There are some real basic issues with the cases you cited that would be a problem in ANY organization, not just sports.

How can the Rangers not know what a bad look the whole Goodrow thing was and how the players would react?

How can the Rangers be in trade discussions for Trouba that advance far enough the hockey media is all over it, without discussing it with the player who has the ability to put a No Trade list together?

Now, the incessant leaks are just adding to the aura of incompetence.

 

[TM94goRU]

There are some real basic issues with the cases you cited that would be a problem in ANY organization, not just sports.

How can the Rangers not know what a bad look the whole Goodrow thing was and how the players would react?

How can the Rangers be in trade discussions for Trouba that advance far enough the hockey media is all over it, without discussing it with the player who has the ability to put a No Trade list together?

Now, the incessant leaks are just adding to the aura of incompetence.

100%. Oh and shocker you put 2 I would say glue guys for the NYR on the trade block, and gee a losing streak. Players are not robots, how you treat them matters. The way the organization has treated people could be costly for awhile, as all these guys are well respected around the NHL, because all things being even, who will want to play in the fishbowl. Alot of pressure and the company will screw you. It is not a selling point for team Dolan.

 

[RU Cheese]

There are some real basic issues with the cases you cited that would be a problem in ANY organization, not just sports.

How can the Rangers not know what a bad look the whole Goodrow thing was and how the players would react?

How can the Rangers be in trade discussions for Trouba that advance far enough the hockey media is all over it, without discussing it with the player who has the ability to put a No Trade list together?

Now, the incessant leaks are just adding to the aura of incompetence.

I thought the Trouba issue wasn't the no trade list, but since his wife's residency was delayed a year (was originally aligned to his NMC), he told the team he would refuse to report if traded.

 

[zappaa]

You can also simplify things and realize at present top to bottom, the Rangers collectively have the worst centers in the NHL

 

[krup]

I thought the Trouba issue wasn't the no trade list, but since his wife's residency was delayed a year (was originally aligned to his NMC), he told the team he would refuse to report if traded.

The trade rumors to Detroit came out before Trouba’s list was due, so he put Detroit on the list of teams he couldn’t be traded to and allegedly told them he would not report if they made a deal with someone NOT on his list.

To be fair to Trouba on the “won’t report” comments, this is after the Goodrow moves so the players are probably pretty cynical about what the Rangers are capable of trying at this point.