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OT: a good friend is STUCK IN CHINA

I believe it was said on the news that it was a woman in her late 50s with serious medical issues.

From CNN article:

The coronavirus patient who died in Washington state went to the hospital "with serious respiratory issues," according to an EvergreenHealth Medical Center statement.

The first US coronavirus fatality was a "medically high-risk patient in her late 50s," President Donald Trump told reporters at the White House on Saturday.
Pretty sure it was a male, 50s, with other health problems (saw this on twitter). There is supposed to be a Washington State press conference at 4 pm eastern, maybe they'll provide additional details.

BTW, state of emergency declared in Washington.
 
Pretty sure it was a male, 50s, with other health problems (saw this on twitter). There is supposed to be a Washington State press conference at 4 pm eastern, maybe they'll provide additional details.

BTW, state of emergency declared in Washington.
Well I did see another article mention the Washington governor saying male but no other details but then Trump said female in his press conference.

He described the patient as a "medically high-risk patient in her late 50s" and said she was "a wonderful woman."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
 
Well I did see another article mention the Washington governor saying male but no other details but then Trump said female in his press conference.

He described the patient as a "medically high-risk patient in her late 50s" and said she was "a wonderful woman."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

Hmmm, what to believe...Trump or twitter? Easy call for me!

Sounds like there may be a total of 5 positive cases now in Wash state, though 2 or 3 are "presumptive" meaning they tested positive locally but need to be confirmed by CDC. I believe they just started doing local testing yesterday.
 
I read :
A high school student in the State of Washington who has no history of traveling to infected areas has been diagnosed with coronavirus, according to Washington State Department of Health.
The student is one of two new presumptive positive cases of novel coronavirus in the state of Washington. The second presumptive case is a female in her 50's from Snohomish County who recently traveled to South Korea.

I think the Governor of Washington had stated the person who died was a male but backed off on the gender and just stated a citizen of the State died of the virus.

edit:Update

2:06 p.m. President Trump confirmed the first known death overnight from coronavirus

The president confirmed the first known death from COVID-19 in a press conference on Saturday. According to the president, the victim was a woman in her 50s. The CDC later clarified it was a man in his 50s.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-scho...oronavirus-community-spread/story?id=69301655
 
I read :
A high school student in the State of Washington who has no history of traveling to infected areas has been diagnosed with coronavirus, according to Washington State Department of Health.
The student is one of two new presumptive positive cases of novel coronavirus in the state of Washington. The second presumptive case is a female in her 50's from Snohomish County who recently traveled to South Korea.

I think the Governor of Washington had stated the person who died was a male but backed off on the gender and just stated a citizen of the State died of the virus.
I'm watching the news conference right now.

Person who died was a male in his 50s with pre-existing health conditions.

Two cases were identified yesterday (one being the HS student), three new ones today including the death...so a total of 5.

One case is a 70+ year old patient (serious condition) at an extended care facility, one is a HCW at the same facility. Others are not related to that facility.
 
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Why do supposed 3rd world countries have better testing than the US?

The South Koreans have tested multi thousands along with the Italians - what has the US tested 450 people and they say it will be a few weeks before they have an accurate test. Give me a ****ing break!

Total tested 472

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

I like Trump but he is getting bad bad advice...that Dr. Fauci is a complete moron - he said it's like the Flu. How many FLU victims fall over and start convulsing in a death throw?

Once somebody takes a video of a US citizen dying on a US street convulsing - it's over - its over and it's coming.

Peace out

 
Why do supposed 3rd world countries have better testing than the US?

The South Koreans have tested multi thousands along with the Italians - what has the US tested 450 people and they say it will be a few weeks before they have an accurate test. Give me a ****ing break!

Total tested 472

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

I like Trump but he is getting bad bad advice...that Dr. Fauci is a complete moron - he said it's like the Flu. How many FLU victims fall over and start convulsing in a death throw?

Once somebody takes a video of a US citizen dying on a US street convulsing - it's over - its over and it's coming.

Peace out


Can we ban this nutjob?
 
Good though short (5 min) interview from Face the Nation. Scott Gottblieb is an md and former head of the FDA. I've been following what he's been saying since this outbreak started in Wuhan and he seems to be a good source of reasonable and realistic information. Not a stick-your-head-in-the-sand approach and also not "the end is near" approach.

Of particular interest - his comments about the number of cases likely present in the US right now. Epidemiological studies/modeling suggest that in Washington state alone there are probably hundreds or even "low" thousands of cases that we don't (yet) know about.

 
Cali is the only state taking any kind of action in the form of mass quarantines. It's top of mind a lot of places but more because of what it's doing to the stock market than actual health risks. As of right now outside of China there are less than 2000 documented cases of coronavirus in the entire world. In the united states the number is 14... the disease has a 2% mortality rate which is a bit higher than the coomon flu but nothing insane. Yes people are out of their minds for the way they are reacting to this. It is no different than any other year when there's a new disease that people freak out over than quickly forget once the virus has a vaccine. How many times lately have you heard anyone talk about SARS?

This will blow over from a health standpoint. what will keep it going is the political gain
You really have no idea what you're talking about; will repeat my post from another thread on this. This virus is as or more transmissible than influenza and has a mortality rate roughly 10-20X that of influenza (~2% vs. about 0.1-0.2%). So if we largely ignored it like the flu, we'd potentially have 10-20X the ~12K-60K deaths/year we have from the flu, which would give a range of deaths of 120K to 1.2MM if we did nothing.

That's why this is so serious and doing everything possible to slow/stop the spread is so important, from not allowing travel from countries with outbreaks, to very close monitoring of people who have been in high rate countries, to quarantining/monitoring/treating suspected cases here (and tracking connections), along with personal preventative measures like frequent hand-washing and wearing masks if you are symptomatic.

Only these measures will be effective in significantly lowering "effective" transmission rates to well below those seen for influenza, which will lead to far less deaths than there could be. The other thing we could have on our side is the possibility that transmission rates will decline significantly soon, as we transition to warmer/more humid spring weather, as occurs for influenza, but we don't know yet if that will be the case with this coronavirus.

And my post has nothing to do with politics - this is about the science and the probabilistic assessment of outcomes based on differing government/citizen responses to the situation.
 
Good though short (5 min) interview from Face the Nation. Scott Gottblieb is an md and former head of the FDA. I've been following what he's been saying since this outbreak started in Wuhan and he seems to be a good source of reasonable and realistic information. Not a stick-your-head-in-the-sand approach and also not "the end is near" approach.

Of particular interest - his comments about the number of cases likely present in the US right now. Epidemiological studies/modeling suggest that in Washington state alone there are probably hundreds or even "low" thousands of cases that we don't (yet) know about.

Great clip, thanks! I met Gottlieb at a conference in the early 2000s when he was with the FDA. Bright guy with an MD and great business/regulatory experience and seemed poised for more back then and he obviously fulfilled that. Was an excellent FDA commissioner (2017-2019), being probably one of Trump's best appointments. He advanced a lot of good programs and policies in his time there and was fairly activist, despite that not usually being what Trump wanted in his appointees. He was also highly ethical, recusing himself from being involved in FDA business with a bunch of companies he had been involved with before his appointment. I also like that he seems even-handed in his assessment of the situation, as well as his assessment of the Administration, giving some positive and constructive feedback.

I assume he's likely correct in there being at least hundreds of currently undiagnosed cases in the US, given that we now have community-acquired infections and given the 4-day incubation period (median) to symptoms and the 9-12 day period to hospitalization in serious cases. Which is why the focus now has to be on monitoring, testing (was good to hear the progress on the test kits from him, finally), tracking contacts with infected people, and treatment of those people, as well quarantining as needed. Was also interesting to hear him talking more about ratcheting up treatment research (anti-virals, antibiotics for secondary infections, etc.) than vaccine research, since it's unlikely we'll have a vaccine to market before next year's flu season and having better treatment options could be critical, if this turns out to be seasonal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Gottlieb
 
Still - no testing...maybe next week...they took it off the CDC website .
There will be millions tested...next week... lol

Doubt it. Hey good news your Federal government cares more about the stock market then about you...there will be a time Mike Pence can't bullshit you anymore.

They ran the genome in WA state its been in country for at least 6 weeks.
Thousands are infected in the US - it will come out - shortly or not.
 
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Trump is really making a bad political decision - once they open up this testing...it will go from zero to 100 in an hour.

When the real testing begins - do you think Cuomo will be polite - NYC will go from 2 cases to a 100 in a NY minute - all these big city's are run by Democrats - so they are going to stick it to him.

Really getting bad bad advice.
imo

My guess right now - 50K have the virus in the US.

I read 60 to 70% of the world populations will get the virus.
 
Trump is really making a bad political decision - once they open up this testing...it will go from zero to 100 in an hour.

When the real testing begins - do you think Cuomo will be polite - NYC will go from 2 cases to a 100 in a NY minute - all these big city's are run by Democrats - so they are going to stick it to him.

Really getting bad bad advice.
imo

My guess right now - 50K have the virus in the US.

I read 60 to 70% of the world populations will get the virus.

So the expert advise would be:

Don't test any people?
Ignore the situation?

Viruses don't watch tv or press conferences.
You could test zero people and say nobody has it.
That doesn't actually stop people from getting sick or worsening the situation, if there is one.
Again, its unknown because testing isn't being done.

We should peobably stop testing for Flu as well.
Knock those "15,000 flu deaths per year" down to zero!
 
Trump is really making a bad political decision - once they open up this testing...it will go from zero to 100 in an hour.

When the real testing begins - do you think Cuomo will be polite - NYC will go from 2 cases to a 100 in a NY minute - all these big city's are run by Democrats - so they are going to stick it to him.

Really getting bad bad advice.
imo

My guess right now - 50K have the virus in the US.

I read 60 to 70% of the world populations will get the virus.
You really are crazy. Don’t test anyone until they start dying because you want Trump re-elected.
 
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