Grew up in Wash Twp - WTHS Class of 80. Still miss Sal's pizza/cheesesteaks (I'll go once every year or two). Still like AC too, despite the blemishes.
OT: Atlantic City Real Estate
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As a monthly , sometimes weekly visitor to casinos, I only go to AC when I'm at Ocean City or LBI ,just don't like gambling there .Unless you've got 50 years to wait it out would never buy there and I've invested and did great in places in NYC/ Hoboken where 30 years ago noone wanted. As for the Keansburg beach?? Might as well go to Staten Island . The walk in boys and the little boardwalk for the little ones was fun years ago -- how's it now? By the way there was a ferry boat that came over from nyc to that long pier years ago. Those tiny bungalows used to be filled with New Yorkers.
Cool, Numbers. I always think of Washington Township (better known in South Jersey as "TWP") when I read your posts. As you know, I lived there since the nineties, and still own a house there.
My Atlantic City house has appreciated in value, but I don't think of it as an investment. I am in a nice neighborhood, and can walk to the beach in sixty seconds, which is a life I enjoy (initially I chose AC because we opened a business on the boardwalk, which we closed down in 2020).
I shouldn't have been an a-hole and started this thread. I was up most of the night last Friday working on something, and then, instead of going to sleep Saturday morning, I had a few belts of Jim Beam, which clouded my judgment. When I saw all the activity next door, I mistakenly thought it would be funny to post about it and draw out the usual tropes* from the usual people (all of whom I like, such as TKR, Brisket, Volt, and other AC detractors). It was not a good decision to post it, and I am a little embarrassed for doing so...
ETA: Some of the tropes are fully accurate, as I acknowledged in the original post.
I like these types of threads because I like to hear what other people know about towns in NJ.
In 1980-1982 I looked at tenement building in Hoboken that being sold for under $40,000. If I had only known.
I would love AC to turnaround one of these decades but this isn’t even close to being an accurate statement.
Have there been some improvements? Yes.
Things have also taken a step back since Covid as well.
I agree T2K. Governments all over are notoriously good at wasting opportunity, money, resources, time, and on and on. Atlantic City had a long term master plan to essentially become the Las Vegas of the East Coast. We had a virtual monopoly with gambling for 30 years and the City, County and State failed miserably in executing that plan. I remember my father telling me when I was a young teen and we had a civic debate in school about Atlantic City and gambling, that the government will find ways to screw it up and boy was he right. This conversation took place in the late 1970's.
Since that time, every five to 10 years someone either in AC government or state government come up with a "revitalization plan" for AC that never goes anywhere and dies. I have been going to AC since I was in High School and it is essentially the same shithole it always has been outside the casinos NJ had its opportunity to execute and really turn AC into the gem of the east coast but decades of government bungling and AC is no closer to being any closer to achieving its potential.
You also have parts of Old Bridge, Aberdeen, Hazlet and Middletown as well Atlantic and "regular" Highlands.
SI doesn't have the boardwalk amenities Keansburg does, is more expensive, has NYC income tax and murderous traffic. From Keansburg if you're getting on the parkway at 117 you're cutting off a lot of the traffic further south.
AC is also cheap relative to points further north.
I don't think anyone is saying these places are shangri-la but the average price of a house in a town like Manasquan at this point is over 1M so options are getting limited for near the water for middle class people.
I was trying to be kind as it's Friday and Valentines Day was this week, but I have the same sentiments
I don't understand the allure of going there
Subpar casino's, crime, terrible area, sketchy AF, boardwalk is a dump w/shade balls all over, etc.
My first trip there was for the NJ wrestling championships in 99 - been back a few times since then, and unless I'm missing something, it hasn't changed much
Shame too b/c it has what Vegas and the rest don't - a beach and ocean
Greed, corruption, mismanagement, etc. by all parties involved are to blame
The saddest part to AC is all the investment dollars in Vegas could have gone to AC if managed at the local and state level better. shame really as it's an ideal locale with a lot to offer
Stay classy AC.
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Another AC mayor heading to jail.
Atlantic City mayor, wife charged with abusing and assaulting teenage daughter
Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small and his wife LaQuetta have been charged with endangering and abusing their teenage daughter.
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Another AC mayor heading to jail.
Most of me wanted to let this slide off page 1, but I have to comment.Stay classy AC.
Atlantic City mayor, wife charged with abusing and assaulting teenage daughter
Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small and his wife LaQuetta have been charged with endangering and abusing their teenage daughter.
Another AC mayor heading to jail.
This is disappointing and even embarrassing for me, an Atlantic City resident (although I also maintain my pad up in Gloucester County as well). I've met Mayor Small several times and had thought he was a good dude.
This started leaking out a few weeks ago, when the mayor's residence was raided, but I held on to the hope that it only involved his wife, who is involved in the school system. I don't think anybody had any idea who the high school student in the sad story was until now.
Embarrassing...
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The principal in the HS is also in trouble from what i hear. When the daughter reported the abuse to her teacher, she then told the principal who instead of calling DYFS called the parents and never reported the abuse to DYFS at all.
Criminal charges for Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small and wife, the school superintendent
Mayor and wife allegedly struck daughter when she was 15, 16 years old, prosecutor's office says
www.courierpostonline.com
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I'm not trying to pile on, but seriously.....AC needs to stop AC'ing it. So much opportunity and advantages just keep being squandered away.
Elected officials, especially the mayor, are a reflection of the voters and community that put him/her in office. Perhaps it's time to go to non-partisan elections and try to find the best residents to serve (not the best partisan pols)? Who are likely in it for personal gain.
That place is shot
You’d need an asbury park type situation to fix it
Morbid as it sounds, if Sandy would have wiped it out in 2012, that could have been the best thing
Get the federal money, relocate people and start over
Although in typical corrupt AC fashion, the money prob would have been embezzled and instead of a complete rebuild, the place would look like the ninth ward in New Orleans
like I said earlier, AC didn't benefit at all from the gold coast build up period and lost out on all that Vegas investment. Bad leadership, unfriendly state, etc etc etc
AC is like a nice section of Baghdad
That's cool, T2K, I know where you're coming from. As I always say, I fully realize that Atlantic City has a lot of problems.
I don't expect it to become Beverly Hills or even Ocean City in my lifetime (or anybody else's, ha ha), but I still like it in my neighborhood, which is quiet and safe...
it is amazing to see rundown row homes on beach blocks. Go 2 miles south and those homes are selling for 7-8 million
Probably the easiest way to sum up AC. Can't think of another town in the nation that has done so little with so much.
Amazing how poorly AC has been run. AC is surrounded by great vacation towns where average homes sell for a million+. There is a limited amount of coastline. Many people love the beach and AC is dirt cheap.
If AC wants to be a great town then do the OPPOSITE. Simply copy the surrounding towns.
If AC wants to be a great town then do the OPPOSITE. Simply copy the surrounding towns.
Thanks for explaining how I vote...
ETA: did not mean to sound like a dick, I thought what you said was funny...
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How would you REMOVE 35,000 poors?
Need a prescribed burn,no other way.
Eliminate all the freebies. Many of them will leave on their own. If they are living in public housing and you stop giving them public housing they are going to leave. They will get priced out of the market.
The second thing would be to start enforcing the laws. Criminals will go back to Camden where they belong.
As an Atlantic City resident (most of the time), I will agree with you that this is the heart of what makes Atlantic City different. The other stuff people like to go on and on about (with memes and cliches) are mostly just symptoms of it. AC is not as bad as they love to say it is (for instance, I walk around in the forbidden zone, ie, "a block away from the casinos", and never have any problems), but it definitely has plenty of issues. I'm always the first to agree with that.
I'm a softie and don't think I would have the heart do do what you are suggesting; so I live with it. When I ran my "hobby" boardwalk business (June 2016 to October 2020) I treated everybody with respect, and got the same in return. Many actually told me that's why they came back; they said outright that they weren't used to having anybody say "Please" and "Thank you" to them. Life can suck sometimes for a lot of people. Not sure I would want to make it suck even more.
p.s. I suspect that I have just lost a lot of friends here. That's life as a non-righty/non-lefty...
I would not be making life suck for anyone. Life is what they make it. My plan prevents the criminal element from dragging everyone down with them.
I am all for giving someone an opportunity but once they waste that opportunity then screw them. They got free k-12 education, free breakfast, free lunch, free take home meals, lower admissions to college, job quotas, and all the other freebies. The result is they cant even make my fries hot.
I would use the same plan for the public schools. We have given the lower class an opportunity. City leaders thought the lower class would rise to the occasion. It did not happen because education starts at HOME with TWO Parents That Give a Chit Privilege. The city leaders ignored the possibility that the lower class would destroy the schools for everyone which is what we are seeing in the urban schools.
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I appreciate your rational, cliche-free approach. I wish we had more people from everywhere on the political spectrum who were calm and analytical, and willing to to work together to fix S...
Jewish lightning?
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Atlantic City boardwalk fire under control after more than 50 firefighters respond
Dozens of firefighters battled a fire on the Atlantic City boardwalk on Thursday night, officials said.
www.cbsnews.com
