OT: Bruce Sutter dead at 69

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Was a valued closer on my stratomatic team back in the day.
I used to play stratomatic for hours on end. I think I started with the 1977 year and the player that always stands out to me that was a HOF automatic - Rod Carew clone was Lyman Bostock. Most of us old times most likely remember him but youngsters don't
 

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One of my favorite players growing up as a Cubs fan. The teams I rooted for as a kid weren't very good, but they had some bright spots like Bruce and I could always count on him being in the All-Star game. RIP- way too young!
 

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I used to play stratomatic for hours on end. I think I started with the 1977 year and the player that always stands out to me that was a HOF automatic - Rod Carew clone was Lyman Bostock. Most of us old times most likely remember him but youngsters don't
Was he the one who was shot dead?
 

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Was he the one who was shot dead?
yes he was...dude was just coming into his own and was already running HOF type numbers. I think in 4 years, just about a .320 BA playing CF - guy could all out rake and very good fielder- he gets the Carew comparisons as he came up in Minn during Carew's prime.
 

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I used to play stratomatic for hours on end. I think I started with the 1977 year and the player that always stands out to me that was a HOF automatic - Rod Carew clone was Lyman Bostock. Most of us old times most likely remember him but youngsters don't
I remember Bostock. Was tragically murdered right?
 

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I first saw Sutter when I went to Wrigley in July, 1976 (I was then a newcomer in Chicago) to see the Reds (then the defending world champions, who went on to win the world championship that year, too) play the Cubs. Sutter was then a rookie and an unknown. He was unhittable and got the save. The Chicago fans would sing (based on the Alka-Seltzer jingle), "Plop-plop, fizz-fizz, oh what a relief he is!" He was younger than I am -- his passing is a shock.
 

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I first saw Sutter when I went to Wrigley in July, 1976 (I was then a newcomer in Chicago) to see the Reds (then the defending world champions, who went on to win the world championship that year, too) play the Cubs. Sutter was then a rookie and an unknown. He was unhittable and got the save. The Chicago fans would sing (based on the Alka-Seltzer jingle), "Plop-plop, fizz-fizz, oh what a relief he is!" He was younger than I am -- his passing is a shock.
His sinker was unhittable. It’s funny, because I can’t remember him throwing anything else. I think he would get a few guys with a 90ish FB that started the same place as his sinker but stayed on the low corner. Hitter would be expecting it to be in the dirt.
I always felt he was the best until Mariano
 

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His sinker was unhittable. It’s funny, because I can’t remember him throwing anything else. I think he would get a few guys with a 90ish FB that started the same place as his sinker but stayed on the low corner. Hitter would be expecting it to be in the dirt.
I always felt he was the best until Mariano
It was actually a split-finger fastball (the same kind of pitch Hector Neris throws when he is effective). As you say, he would also throw a fastball to keep hitters honest. He had very long fingers, and that allowed him to throw the split-finger effectively. The pitch is harder on the elbow than most pitches, and I recall Sutter having arm trouble during his time with the Cubs.
 

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His sinker was unhittable. It’s funny, because I can’t remember him throwing anything else. I think he would get a few guys with a 90ish FB that started the same place as his sinker but stayed on the low corner. Hitter would be expecting it to be in the dirt.
I always felt he was the best until Mariano
Actually Sutter was famous for his split finger fastball that looked like a fastball heading to the plate at first , but dropping quickly as it reached the batter.
Yes it was just about unhittable most of the time and that what made him a great closer.
Arm problems as a minor leaguer caused his taking up the splitter as his main weapon
 

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Actually Sutter was famous for his split finger fastball that looked like a fastball heading to the plate at first , but dropping quickly as it reached the batter.
Yes it was just about unhittable most of the time and that what made him a great closer.
Arm problems as a minor leaguer caused his taking up the splitter as his main weapon
It is funny- you never hear of many using the split finger as much as they did back then and then a ton in the 90's. I believe that was also Cone's go to pitch and Mike Scott- with a little help. lol
 

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It is funny- you never hear of many using the split finger as much as they did back then and then a ton in the 90's. I believe that was also Cone's go to pitch and Mike Scott- with a little help. lol
Mike Scott , had a grant splitter and a little sandpaper made it even better .
Mike should have sanded the ball down as a Met, but the Astros got the benefit of his scuff marks 😊
 
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Mike Scott , had a grant splitter and a little sandpaper made it even better .
Mike should have sanded the ball down as a Met, but the Astros got the benefit of his scuff marks 😊
Funny how Astros have done this for almost 40 years, imagine how good Cole would be if he stayed there.
 
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Funny how Astros have done this for almost 40 years, imagine how good Cole would be if he stayed there.
hell Huston can even make a trash can "shine" for them where other teams treat those cans like just for garbage , the Astros know how to use them as part of their game plan 😁