OT: Can't rent the other Star Wars movies - I miss Blockbuster

[Saint Puppy]

So count me as one who thought it was cool that you could have netflix, amazon, etc. all in the comfort of your home - heck who needed Blockbuster anymore? However, I have had several movies that I've wanted to rent over the past few years that you could only buy. Now that my son is of age I want him to see them, and I'm not interested in paying $20 per Star Wars movie (the cost on most sites to own and stream). Kind of stinks if you ask me.

 

[seels2662]

Many public libraries have a movie section now...you can rent movies for free....

 

[RUshore99]

Vudu.com or vudu app for smart tv or roku has a rental option I believe. Or go to Manhattan and buy pirated dvds

 

[Saint Puppy]

Many public libraries have a movie section now...you can rent movies for free....

DVDs from a library are usually all scratched up and its hit or miss whether there will be issues or not.

 

[Saint Puppy]

You know Netflix still does mail delivery, right?

I have the streaming service, but read there is a long wait list for the Star Wars movies on DVD.

 

[fbc1866]

I tried to return them with Netflix and I m on a long waiting list since September

 

[Saint Puppy]

Vudu.com or vudu app for smart tv or roku has a rental option I believe. Or go to Manhattan and buy pirated dvds

Just checked Vudu.com and it's the same as everywhere else - I can buy each movie to stream for $19.99.

 

[RobertG]

Bought the blu rays of the first three on ebay for $25

 

[theRU]

can't you "rent" through amazon?

 

[PeteGiam07]

There are several places online and through apps you can rent movies for blockbuster prices like 3.95$ or 5.95$. You are not with the new technologies and need to invest in smart tv's or amazon firestick or roku etc.. The amount of movie rental apps is ridiculous.

Your complaints are not real. Casting through Showbox and Moviebox is my go to for those kind of movies and it is free.

 

[newell138]

Welcome to 2016, get the KODI app on your TV, I can watch any movie and any TV show for free. Even movies currently showing in theaters are available.

 

[Saint Puppy]

can't you "rent" through amazon?

No- you can only buy each movie for $20

 

[fg7321]

Welcome to 2016, get the KODI app on your TV, I can watch any movie and any TV show for free. Even movies currently showing in theaters are available.

^^^^Let us know when the FBI is at your house. This has to be illegal......

 

[PSU_Nut]

Welcome to 2016, get the KODI app on your TV, I can watch any movie and any TV show for free. Even movies currently showing in theaters are available.

Do you also suggest stealing cars, walking out of restaurants with out paying? I don't understand why people think stealing movies Ned tv shows are perfectly acceptable. Perhaps you have no morals or your mother never taught you not to steal.

 

[Saint Puppy]

Welcome to 2016, get the KODI app on your TV, I can watch any movie and any TV show for free. Even movies currently showing in theaters are available.

^^^^Let us know when the FBI is at your house. This has to be illegal......

Agree with fg7321 and PSU_Nut - if you think being able to get everything for free is even remotely legal then 'welcome to 2026' when they will let you out of prison for piracy. Actually looked it up the Kodi is legal, but the application of it to use for what you are using it for is not (surprise, surprise) - amazon (which sells everything and anything underneath the sun) banned selling it on their site. I am actually trying to rent this legaly - I am well aware I could probably download it for free, but have no interest in that. I think people have really run amok thinking that it is their right to get things for free, or don't even think about it. It's modern day looting internet style.

 

[RUChoppin]

We used to rent from Bridgewater library, and their DVDs and Blu ray more always in very good condition. I think I only ever had one that was scratched. Of course, for popular movies you might end up on a waiting list for a month.

I echo the sentiment though that there are tons of places to rent movies through streaming for blockbuster prices

 

[Crazed_RU]

The current Star Wars is making money hand over fist. The owners of the rights to the old movies, Disney now, are not going to allow the old movies to be simply rented for $5 when there is clearly pent up demand for the titles. You would do the same thing if you owned the rights. They are maximizing the value of their investment by only allowing purchase right now.

 

[Crazed_RU]

We used to rent from Bridgewater library, and their DVDs and Blu ray more always in very good condition. I think I only ever had one that was scratched. Of course, for popular movies you might end up on a waiting list for a month.

I echo the sentiment though that there are tons of places to rent movies through streaming for blockbuster prices

Yes but the titles are limited by access rights granted by the owner of the content.

 

[PSU_Nut]

So count me as one who thought it was cool that you could have netflix, amazon, etc. all in the comfort of your home - heck who needed Blockbuster anymore? However, I have had several movies that I've wanted to rent over the past few years that you could only buy. Now that my son is of age I want him to see them, and I'm not interested in paying $20 per Star Wars movie (the cost on most sites to own and stream). Kind of stinks if you ask me.

I wanted to die the same thing. In the end I bit the bullet and bought the collection. If you buy all 6 on Amazon it $90. Saves you about $5 a movie.

 

[rutgersguy1]

The current Star Wars is making money hand over fist. The owners of the rights to the old movies, Disney now, are not going to allow the old movies to be simply rented for $5 when there is clearly pent up demand for the titles. You would do the same thing if you owned the rights. They are maximizing the value of their investment by only allowing purchase right now.

Yea I was about to say this. It's on purpose that you can't rent it, specifically while the current movie is out. I'm not even sure if you could beforehand but certainly not now. My niece got the box set for 90 bucks as a xmas present. People will pay up for it.

It's a unique franchise though and they can probably get away with it to some degree, I don't know that you'll see this type of strategy for most movies because it would be lost revenue.

 

[RUChoppin]

Interesting about Disney withholding the rental rights: http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...res-why-you-cant-rent-star-wars-films-n480996

There's a pretty fair bet that someone you know has the original trilogy, if not all six movies. I've lent my copies out a few times.

 

[R1776U]

got all six a few years ago on blue ray for 40 at walmart.. i pity da fool now! [winking].. and there is nothing wrong with streaming it online as you are watching something someone else put out there.. no download necessary .. how i saw TFA

 

[RutgersSam]

You can buy DVDs for cheap on Ebay

 

[R1776U]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...wars+saga.TRS0&_nkw=star+wars+saga&_sacat=617

 

[ScarletCrimson]

Please be kind. Rewind.

 

[MikeR0102]

Spike used to show all 6 on TV all the time. Did they lose those rights?

 

[R1776U]

Please be kind. Rewind.

NO!

 

[Saint Puppy]

Interesting about Disney withholding the rental rights: http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...res-why-you-cant-rent-star-wars-films-n480996

There's a pretty fair bet that someone you know has the original trilogy, if not all six movies. I've lent my copies out a few times.

Yeah - had a feeling about this with Disney, and not that I wasn't looking hard enough as some insinuated on this thread. And, yes that is my next step to borrow from a friend/neighbor (hate borrowing things though - lol).

 

[FanuSanu52]

Agree with fg7321 and PSU_Nut - if you think being able to get everything for free is even remotely legal then 'welcome to 2026' when they will let you out of prison for piracy. Actually looked it up the Kodi is legal, but the application of it to use for what you are using it for is not (surprise, surprise) - amazon (which sells everything and anything underneath the sun) banned selling it on their site. I am actually trying to rent this legaly - I am well aware I could probably download it for free, but have no interest in that. I think people have really run amok thinking that it is their right to get things for free, or don't even think about it. It's modern day looting internet style.

What I don't understand is why grown adults recommend it so smugly, like those who aren't using it are idiots. Yeah, I'm well aware that I can get pretty much anything in pirated form, and I'm not particularly worried about going to jail or even the morals of it, but I happen to think producers of good content should be compensated ... Especially for things like in-theater movies. You're not some kind of tech savvy genius for using those apps ... Just kind of a dirtbag.

As to the OP, I do miss the video store sometimes. There was something about physically going, looking over all the films, grabbing some popcorn or chocolate covered peanuts in the checkout line and going home to watch- was more of a full-night experience than just knocking out 90 minutes of movie on demand. 9 out of 10 times, I'd still use on demand, though.

Whatever happened to that future where we could order from a library of every movie ever made from that cable (xfinity, maybe?) commercial a few years back? The technology is there, make this happen ... In a legal way you can profit from.

 

[FanuSanu52]

On the other hand, when studios do greedy #%^} like withhold rentals to boost sales, I have no issue whatsoever getting the pirated copy. Either offer it through legit channels for reasonable prices, or stop whining that the Pirates beat you at your own game,

 

[RUinOhio]

and right or wrong their greed is why people pirate movies...ok not everyone but many people

The current Star Wars is making money hand over fist. The owners of the rights to the old movies, Disney now, are not going to allow the old movies to be simply rented for $5 when there is clearly pent up demand for the titles. You would do the same thing if you owned the rights. They are maximizing the value of their investment by only allowing purchase right now.

 

[rutgersal]

Walmart.com has each trilogy available for 34.96.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Disney doesn't own the old movies yet.

They may never own the 1st one.

 

[DJ Spanky]

I've got them on videocassette if anyone wants to borrow them.

Seriously, though, we did trot out these old videos so that Tyler and Corey could watch the whole movies before going to see the new one.

We didn't waste time, though, with the 3 "prequels".

 

[Crazed_RU]

and right or wrong their greed is why people pirate movies...ok not everyone but many people

So if a car costs more than you think it should do you just steal it? I don't like the price of blueberries at Shop Rite right now - they are out of season so they need to ship them in from Chile and they cost $3.99 a pint. I think that is crazy but I don't steal them instead. I still wanted them yesterday so I bought them. Why is it greedy to want to maximize the value of an asset? Disney paid George Lucas over $4 Billion for the rights to Star Wars - should they now give you the movies for free?

 

[RUfinal4]

your best bet is to check with friends to see if they have the disks. If you have a new pc you probably have a cd drive that can copy dvds so you can own them that way if you want.

Disney runs a smart business and will probably not allow them to be rented until the next trilogy is done. You may get lucky via Cablevision or Comcast on demand though.

Disney paid $4 bil for Star Wars.
If 1 mil people buy the prior 6 for $80 that is only $80 mil. They are probably making a few hundred mil a year in licensing fees for various products. It will take 5-10 years to recoup $4bil.

When HBO renewed with Universal and 20th Century Fox it was rumored they were paying about $200 mil a year to each studio. It is possible that Disney ha similar deals for their content.

 

[derleider]

Do you also suggest stealing cars, walking out of restaurants with out paying? I don't understand why people think stealing movies Ned tv shows are perfectly acceptable. Perhaps you have no morals or your mother never taught you not to steal.

Because when you have stolen a car or a restaurant you have deprived the owner of something, when you steal movies/music you arent really depriving the owner of something other than profits - they still can sell more copies.

Of course if we still had our original copyright laws Star Wars would be in the public domain. It would be free for everyone to watch. Instead it will be another 50 or so years before it does so (assuming Disney doesnt get copyright extended again) - ironic given how Lucas cribbed almost the entire movie from other sources aside from his awesome special effects.

As a constitutional originalist I will take the founders word on how exactly they meant by this "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries" and figure its my patriotic duty to view any work greater than 28 years old for free, as Thomas Jefferson intended.

 

[RUChoppin]

your best bet is to check with friends to see if they have the disks. If you have a new pc you probably have a cd drive that can copy dvds so you can own them that way if you want.

Disney runs a smart business and will probably not allow them to be rented until the next trilogy is done. You may get lucky via Cablevision or Comcast on demand though.

Disney paid $4 bil for Star Wars.
If 1 mil people buy the prior 6 for $80 that is only $80 mil. They are probably making a few hundred mil a year in licensing fees for various products. It will take 5-10 years to recoup $4bil.

When HBO renewed with Universal and 20th Century Fox it was rumored they were paying about $200 mil a year to each studio. It is possible that Disney ha similar deals for their content.

Disney will make their money back very easily... and likely much more quickly than 5-10 years.
- Force Awakens will pull in $2.5B+ in gross receipts, then likely another $2B+ for Episode VIII 14 months from now, and another $1.5-2.5B for Episode IX 24 months after that - and that's not counting the probable short re-releases of Eps VII and VIII prior to the subsequent movies, which will add to their box office totals.
- In between, there will be three additional movies (Rogue One in 2016, a Han Solo movie in 2018, and a Boba Fett movie in 2020), which won't hit those mega numbers, but may pull in a respectable $0.5B+ each in worldwide receipts.
- Add to that the money made off all of the merchandising (toys, clothes, bedsheets, etc), money from partners hitching to the Star Wars train (like Verizon), television (animated series Star Wars Rebels coming this year), book / print media sales, video game rights and the DVD/Blu-ray sales of the new movies... and the sales of the prior six movies will be a drop in the bucket.

 

[RUChoppin]

Because when you have stolen a car or a restaurant you have deprived the owner of something, when you steal movies/music you arent really depriving the owner of something other than profits - they still can sell more copies.

Of course if we still had our original copyright laws Star Wars would be in the public domain. It would be free for everyone to watch. Instead it will be another 50 or so years before it does so (assuming Disney doesnt get copyright extended again) - ironic given how Lucas cribbed almost the entire movie from other sources aside from his awesome special effects.

As a constitutional originalist I will take the founders word on how exactly they meant by this "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries" and figure its my patriotic duty to view any work greater than 28 years old for free, as Thomas Jefferson intended.

So you'll still be paying for Episodes I-III (11-17 years ago), I guess, and any of the special edition versions of the films (19 years ago).

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

I am not a huge Disney fan but before you start to blame them, at the very least please get the facts straight:

20th Century Fox owns the 1st movie outright not Disney. 20th Century Fox also currently has the distribution rights for the for the original 3 and the prequels (all 6 SW films)

Those rights will go back to Disney in 2020, the same year Rutgers gets the Big Ten full payout.

The rights to the original 1st movie will never go to Disney. That will stay with 20th Century Fox forever unless Disney buys it from them (that will not be cheap and it may not be for sale).