Yes, plenty. Search the board for the term "masks" under my username and you'll find a ton. The WHO and CDC both dropped the ball on masks and came out with recommendations on masks way later than leaders in the field did (and me in early March, as I've published internal papers at work on removal of infectious agents by filtration/masks and knew masks were very likely protective in keeping virus-laden droplets in from infected wearers and out for non-infected wearers).
See you hit it right on the head ...Educated ... with no common sense... plenty of those in DC...plenty in private business... not all people lacking a Degree are stupid.
So a 100 page document published by the WHO in the Spring of 2019 is complete garbage and not to be believed? How could they be so far off the mark, and if they were, why should they be trusted?
Knight, the paper you cited was based on a meta-analysis of ten other studies. It showed a benefit to mask wearing but not one of statistical signififance.
And paper aside, the WHO hasn't looked good throughout this whole thing...
I've posted about all of this before and am not inclined to dig it all up again, but the WHO and CDC, from everything I recall simply relied on weak flu studies where "control" was poor. If masks didn't work to prevent doctors and nurses from infecting their patients, why would they all wear them? Because they work. What wasn't known as well, however, was the extent of people who were asymptomatic or even very mildly symptomatic, but infectious for COVID, which is usually not the case with flu and was absolutely not the case with SARS/MERS, where patients typically weren't highly contagious until they were fairly sick.
In a follow-up to the post above, for anyone wondering how the hell these COVID vaccines were developed, tested, and approved so fast and especially for those who worry that corners were cut, this Reddit COVID forum FAQ is superb. The whole thing is worth reading.
The only people talking about mandatory vaccinations are on this board.
www.cdc.gov
www.healthline.com
Flu numbers are always wonky / estimates. I'd expect positive flu tests to be down for the reasons you cited, but also because people with flu are more likely to stay home / avoid doctors offices or just get tested for covid this year.Flu numbers are way down due to increased vaccinations, social distancing and masking.
Not everything is lumped into Covid since there is clear testing for each.
Decreased Influenza Activity During the COVID-19 Pandemic ...
After recognition of widespread community transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), by mid- to late February 2020, indicators of influenza activity ...
COVID-19 Is Surging but Flu Cases Are Down: Here's Why
Flu activity remains surprisingly low this year, largely in part to the safety precautions in place to prevent COVID-19. Furthermore, overall flu vaccination rates are strong. There’s still time for the flu to explode, though.
Not everything but a lot is lumped in.Flu numbers are way down due to increased vaccinations, social distancing and masking.
Not everything is lumped into Covid since there is clear testing for each.
Decreased Influenza Activity During the COVID-19 Pandemic ...
After recognition of widespread community transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), by mid- to late February 2020, indicators of influenza activity ...
COVID-19 Is Surging but Flu Cases Are Down: Here's Why
Flu activity remains surprisingly low this year, largely in part to the safety precautions in place to prevent COVID-19. Furthermore, overall flu vaccination rates are strong. There’s still time for the flu to explode, though.
There are reasons it took them such a long time to come along. You do understand why the general public may be confused from (and skeptical of) the advice of experts?
There are reasons it took them such a long time to come along. You do understand why the general public may be confused from (and skeptical of) the advice of experts?
If you actually understood how science worked, you'd know that research done with one virus years ago (influenza) might be a good starting point, but that research done in the actual virus we're dealing with is far more relevant and the vast majority of that research since the pandemic started has shown that masks afford some protection for the wearer and reduce viral load emitted by an infected wearer and that when both are wearing masks the reduction is synergistic. New, more relevant research outweighs older, less relevant research. That's how scientific understanding evolves.
You seem to have a tendency to minimize any problems with the vaccine. For those with anaphylaxis to a variety of things, this is a big deal, and it seems to have been swept under the carpet. Someone in my family had planned to go early for one of the available vaccines as was completely unaware of this. They had not talked to their doctor. This person was on the list to get an early vaccine, and none of this information was provided. A review of the vaccine consent form does lists the ingredients and asks if the person receiving the vaccine if they have had an allergic reaction to the ingredients listed, but the average person is not going to know if they are or are not allergic to the laundry list of chemical moieties listed.
You don't read my posts so well. I'll tell you the same thing you tell me. Check my posting history-LOL. Yeah, who has time to do that? I'm fully on board with masks. My only point is the WHO has very questionable integrity. And the CDC is probably further behind. Just look at the advice the CDC gives to diabetics for diet, which would put many diabetics in a diabetic coma. Big Food and Big Pharma have too much influence over people and agencies who are supposed to be providing unbiased advice. Have said this before, it's almost as if they want people to be sick so more pharmaceuticals can be peddled. I'm sure you will disagree. Few of us have the time and the scientific background or ability to sift through all of the medical and scientific jargon to figure this stuff out, and they take the advice of the WHO and CDC at face value. It's very unfortunate and needs to change.
www.cdc.gov
Do you mean by the educated...advanced degree educated or... the superior ,highly sophisticated, WHO EDUCATED?Nothing is being swept under the rug. It’s been widely reported and CDC issued guidance on it. Over a million people have been vaccinated and this has only happened to a handful of people.
If somehow a person is unaware of the allergic risks going into being vaccinated (i.e. they do no research and don’t speak to a doctor) they will be educated upon arrival.
COVID-19 Vaccines and Severe Allergic Reactions
What to do if you get an allergic reaction after COVID-19 vaccination.
Nothing is being swept under the rug. It’s been widely reported and CDC issued guidance on it. Over a million people have been vaccinated and this has only happened to a handful of people.
If somehow a person is unaware of the allergic risks going into being vaccinated (i.e. they do no research and don’t speak to a doctor) they will be educated upon arrival.
COVID-19 Vaccines and Severe Allergic Reactions
What to do if you get an allergic reaction after COVID-19 vaccination.
Sorry you understand EXACTLY what I mean... the superiority syndrome with some of you science / pharma nerds is sickening... the “ we’re just trying to educate you “ , has become comical especially from YOU...
Trust me Aristotle I’m not angry nor insecure with issues... the only issue I have and many others have is your inordinate number of posts which defend your position when someone CHOOSES to disagree or question the so called updates on covid19 ... not all is factually proven ...within 5-10 years we will learn much more about how the covid19 pandemic was mishandled starting with the WHO,CDC Federal Government and Medical professionals in charge... conspiracy theory? Maybe ...maybe not... “ if something sounds too good it probably isn’t”... What seems to be the issue in South Korea with the virus? They have done ALL the suggested safeguards from tracking, isolating, mask wearing and social separation yet the experts claims they can’t understand why it is spreading again.
BTW: I believe everyone on this board has known and read about the possible adverse reactions from the two vaccines... this is exactly what makes people laugh with you assuming the average lay person is uneducated or unable to understand about Anaphylaxis reactions caused by these vaccines... Nice to help but some do these postings not to help but actually to promote their unabashed superior intellectual ( in their minds) knowledge...unless you are part of actually stopping the viral spread then it’s not worth anything... almost can visualize some issues being the same 1-2-5 years in the future...
And who should they be educated by? By the very educated, ie doctors, scientists et el.
Isn't the problem that people are not aware of these issues? Otherwise it would not be news right?
No I would be quite confident in saying EVERYDAY TKR posters are aware of the Covid 19 updates... most read other articles...listen to the MSM and are educated and In 11-12 months we all should have a very good understanding of available treatments, vaccines, protective measures and where the probability lies of where this virus originated... it was not a virus jumping from animal to humans... so when people have stated their doubts and concerns with information being given to the public the “ science block” on the board and news reacted in an overt display of dismay ...some posts bordering on ridicule for being uneducated, not science oriented or possibly politically motivated while they defended others from the WHO, CDC, NIHI ... hell they defend China but criticize the public ... the unaware on this board?... Why don’t you have a poll where the unaware can say yeah or nay ... I need more information on covid19...
So 3 weeks ago you were aware that anaphylaxis was a concern with these vacinnes? I wasn't. I don't even know what anaphylaxis is.
Anna Phylaxis, so beautiful she’ll take your breath away 😎
Believe this or not a common issue of moderate to severe reaction was anticipated or expected ... it has happened I’m sure with other vaccines and when something is injected into the body there is a chance of adverse effects... example : not a vaccine but certain dyes were stopped being injected during procedures do to reactions... 40 years ago they would ask? Are you allergic to shell fish? Now to think these vaccines were going to be reaction free shows the narrow mindedness for some of the educated... I maintain do not make light of people who don’t have advanced degrees in science or medicine... Thankfully not all people are sheep or unintelligent.
