Not sure where you getting the engineering problem from. They said it was a battery issue.
OT: Electric vehicles
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See? Driving faster is better.
www.motortrend.com
Driving Faster Could Increase EV Efficiency in Cold Weather
The reason is simpler than you'd think.
250 miles at 70mph is roughly 3.5 hrs. If you have a non-Tesla, not all chargers are real quick.
Too many road trip ifs. If you're in a long-range model, in nice temperate weather, without a tow load or too much payload, with a fast-charger network perfectly laid out along your journey ...
A car with an ICE will do fine, thanks.
Nope, reality.
Although other posters have repeatedly pushed no oil changes and low maintenance as major EV selling points.
Reality is that long distance driving and oil change have so little impact on 90% to 95% of your daily use.
Normal consumption for an EA888 is 1 quart / 8000 miles.
Audi dealers perform free oil consumption tests on engines which demonstrate excess consumption.
I had one car that fell into this category - at 67,000 miles. They replaced the engine. For free.
Not really the sort of thing to get all broke up about.
I wouldn't be too worried about this, as it has pretty much no inherent legality, as declarations go.
If, come 2035, there are still ICE vehicles that meet CARB standards in place at that time, states will not be able to ban their sales absent a complete, substitute framework a la California - which, in NJ, would require a constitutional amendment.
Of course, it's entirely possible that in 13 years there won't be a manufacturer producing ICE passenger vehicles. 13 years is a long time in the auto industry - it's two full product cycles.
Never heard of the free oil consumption test my wife's A3 has been burning oil for 20000 miles. We have 100 k on the car now. Audi had to be sued twice to put in place a program to fix the issue with 2 liter engine. The Warranty only goes to 80 K. We are at the point where we just add oil every 1500 miles . Problem appears to be the rings are wearing out.
As we know here, the Shift family is green and on board with EVs and PHEVs, something for some reason @BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap has a strange hatred for (I see them as useful and a bridge to an EV future until grid and ubiquitous fast charging networks are in place). But stupid declarations/proclamations like this "banning" the sale of gas vehicles is, as you noted, silly virtue signaling that will only rile up the anti-EV crowd. What would be smarter, IMO, is for these government authorities is to announce ambitious plans and support for a network of fast charging stations.
Have you asked the dealer about a consumption test? I'm surprised they haven't suggested it.
TBH, I would never keep a car with a high-output turbo motor past 100k miles. I traded my own A3 at 78k. The engine was still rock solid, even with a Unitronic Stage 2 tune.
Yep Catena in Freehold was told the test was ~ $150 . Love the Car but VW fought the engine issue for years twice on this car and others vehicles with this engine. I have to say its ridiculous that a car can't be driven for 150 k miles without a major breakdown in the engine or tranny.
It is what it is we will add oil as needed....no more VW products though
Well, if it's any consolation (probably not) it's "luck of the draw", like everything else. We've had 5 Audis and 2 VWs with the EA888 and one of those 7 has been problematic.
Not great odds, I'll admit.
It will be interesting to see if this issue is something that gets remediated over time. I'm contemplating a new A4 Allroad.
I've stated my case repeatedly re: hybrids.
1. Study after study suggests hybrids release more emissions (2x or 3x) than advertised.
2. Full, $7500 tax credit for these vehicles.
I gave you an example a few days ago....you still did not answer: Should the Jeep Wrangler hybrid that gets 19 city/24hwy be classified as a "green" vehicle and deserving of a $7500 tax credit?
Give the consumer real world data, not treadmill data. Eliminate the subsidies, or at least tier them based on emissions. Not sure why you're calling my position strange. Seems logical to me. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Those studies are bullshit propoganda. The pro-hybrid ads use a best-case measurement. The anti-hybrid studies use a bad to worst-case measurement. Anybody who looks at either thing and declares that to be "the reality" is FOS.
The reality is that emissions depends on use. If the driver keeps the battery charged regularly, it's better. If not, it's worse. For those in the former group, it's a lot better than an ICE engine. For those in the latter group, it's like an ICE engine.
Duh.
And subsidies for purchase should be dropped across the board, EVs or PHEVs.
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yeah well a KIA is a POS either way so there's that . My BIL drives his Tesla to & from Naples Florida from NY every year without issue. Tesla is way ahead of everyone else on their charging network but Biden is fixing that . In a few years there will be 1000s more charging stations. You think there were gas stations everywhere in 1910 when cars were being bought?
I don't agree on either count.
IIRC, just like the EV "studies" or articles that bash EVs for having to charge 450 times to go 300 miles are stacked and loaded with confirmation bias---in that European study on PHEVs, the vehicles were being misused or improperly used by the end users. Properly used, PHEVs are a great bridge to getting us towards reduced emissions from pure ICE vehicles and solve the range anxiety problem until the charging network and grids are ready for more pure EVs.
Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says Full Self-Driving Beta software may cause crashes
The Tesla recall notice was posted on the on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday.
Couldn’t they just push out an update or disable it via software?
Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says Full Self-Driving Beta software may cause crashes
The Tesla recall notice was posted on the on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday.www.cnbc.com
Couldn’t they just push out an update or disable it via software?
Indeed they may - the term "recall" is fairly generic and doesn't specifically address how the issue gets corrected.
Third bullet point on the link…Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says Full Self-Driving Beta software may cause crashes
The Tesla recall notice was posted on the on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday.
Couldn’t they just push out an update or disable it via software?
- Tesla will deliver an over-the-air software update to cars to address the issues, the recall notice said.
Shocked, just shocked, I am. Who could ever have predicted such a thing?Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says Full Self-Driving Beta software may cause crashes
The Tesla recall notice was posted on the on the website of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Thursday.
The sooner we get a ban on this unsafe crap, the better for everyone. The "recall" makes it sound like it can be fixed.
Article says it's now $15K. And I agree.
If Teslas are supposed to be fun to drive, why would people pay so much to not drive it?
Go to Texas already and stfu.
Why would anybody trust anything you have to say on this issue? You've continually insisted, despite all evidence posted, that all the reports of problems are false and/or represent attacks on Tesla by motorists who've experienced crashes.
You have zero credibility on this issue.
This is how Tesla achieves the higher margins. Guess I can’t blame them if people are willing to buy it. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Not having to change the oil, but the game changer is never having to go to the gas station for about 99.5% of travel. I realize this isn't as big a deal in NJ (and Oregon), but every other state requires you to pump your own gas.
I prefer to pump my own gas, but I wouldn't miss not having to stop for gas on shorter trips. I tend to run late and not prepare ahead by filling up.
Good thing Ford is ahead of the curve, unlike Tesla on an "engineering problem." I see the Teslarati are already sugarcoating this turd.
Sounds like Tesla has a software engineering problem. Was not caught early enough, leading to a recall. A major f-up to be subject to a recall.
Actually no. Full stops at all stop signs and blinking yellows, regardless of traffic conditions, were already in previous builds. Testers kept overriding because it was too cautious/slow. Not to mention pissing off the people behind them. Tesla updated to rolling stops at vacant intersections, just like you and I would do. NHTSA didn't approve apparently. This "recall" is a step backwards to a previous build.
Lol...sugar coating this turd? Get the facts first buddy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...tal-tesla-crash-no-one-wheel-solved-rcna69865
https://www.wcjb.com/2023/02/10/fhp...crash-i-75-gainesville-caused-by-human-error/
All the evidence posted...lol Where? Please share. You mean clickbait headlines that turn out to be bullshit? You're a clueless troll.
I seem to be the only guy on here who knows a little about FSD beta and autopilot. When the media posts their typical clickbait headlines about an accident involving a Tesla "allegedly" with Autopilot or FSD, you're first to pile on, without hesitation, despite knowing nothing. Mr Skeptical apparently believes everything he reads as long as it slams Tesla.
And why aren't you up in arms about Waymo or Cruise? Pedestrians have actually been killed because of their autonomous vehicles. Not a single post about these tragedies from you. Why?
