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OT: Electric vehicles

Jim Farley & Elon going to do a live Twitter Spaces on accelerating EV adoption. Today 5:30 pm

Is there and Elon and Jim bromance brewing?

Ford EV Customers To Gain Access To 12,000 Tesla Superchargers; Company To Add North American Charging Standard (NACS) Port In Future EVs.
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...n-access-to-12-000-tesla-superchargers--.html
FORD EV CUSTOMERS TO GAIN ACCESS TO 12,000 TESLA SUPERCHARGERS; COMPANY TO ADD NORTH AMERICAN CHARGING STANDARD PORT IN FUTURE EVS
MAY 25, 2023 | DEARBORN
  • Starting early next year, Ford EV customers will have access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada, in addition to the over 10,000 DC fast-chargers that are already part of the BlueOval Charge Network. This will give Ford EV customers unprecedented access to fast-charging
  • Mustang Mach-E, F-150 Lightning and E-Transit customers will be able to access the Superchargers via an adapter and software integration along with activation and payment via FordPass or Ford Pro Intelligence
  • In 2025, Ford will offer next-generation electric vehicles with the North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector built-in, eliminating the need for an adapter to access Tesla Superchargers
  • The reliable Tesla Supercharger network has already established charging corridors across the U.S. and Canada
DEARBORN, Mich., May 25, 2023 – Ford Motor Company said today it reached an agreement with Tesla Motors that will provide Ford electric vehicle customers access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada, doubling the number of fast-chargers available to Ford EV customers starting Spring 2024.
“This is great news for our customers who will have unprecedented access to the largest network of fast-chargers in the U.S. and Canada with 12,000+ Tesla Superchargers plus 10,000+ fast-chargers already in the BlueOval Charge Network,” said Jim Farley, Ford president and CEO. “Widespread access to fast-charging is absolutely vital to our growth as an EV brand, and this breakthrough agreement comes as we are ramping up production of our popular Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning, and preparing to launch a series of next-generation EVs starting in 2025.”
Added Rebecca Tinucci, Tesla’s senior director of charging infrastructure: “We’ve spent the last 10 years building an industry-leading Charging Network that enables freedom to travel and provides charging confidence for our Tesla owners. We’re excited to deliver on our mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy by welcoming Ford owners, and other electric vehicles who adopt NACS, to our thousands of Superchargers across North America.”
A Tesla-developed adapter will provide Ford F-150 Lightning, Mustang Mach-E and E-Transit vehicles fitted with the Combined Charging System (CCS) port access to Tesla’s V3 Superchargers. Ford will equip future EVs with the NACS charge port, removing the need for an adapter for direct access to Tesla Superchargers, starting in 2025.
“Tesla has led the industry in creating a large, reliable and efficient charging system and we are pleased to be able to join forces in a way that benefits customers and overall EV adoption,” said Marin Gjaja, chief customer officer, Ford Model e. “The Tesla Supercharger network has excellent reliability and the NACS plug is smaller and lighter. Overall, this provides a superior experience for customers.”
The BlueOval Charge Network is already North America’s largest public charging network with over 84,000 chargers including access to over 10,000 public DC fast-chargers. Adding more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers creates the single largest integrated fast-charge network across the U.S. and Canada, designed to significantly reduce charge anxiety for Ford customers, with automatic routing to the nearest charger and seamless billing via FordPass.
Additionally, Ford dealers are adding roughly 1,800 public-facing fast-chargers and locations to the BlueOval Charge Network by early 2024.
 
I agree that, from our outsider perspective, this move by Ford seems wise.

I wonder if the conversation about accelerating EV adoption will discuss public charger standardization or other potential standardization efforts. Seems to me that might encourage more rapid public charging infrastructure growth as well as improving development efficiency.

OTOH, it might be a bit too soon for standardization given the inevitable slowdown of technological advances that comes with it.
 
First world problems...my neighbors got into an argument outside the window to my office about the wife forgetting to swap the charger from their Model X to their Model 3 last night.
So, take the X and let her drive the 3. Also, try to keep each at least charged to twice the avg daily mileage usage.
 
Like the news about getting access to Tesla SC network. I’ve only charged at a charging station 5 times. All the free charging is wasted on me.
 
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Cybertruck interior leaked? If this is correct, happy I went with the Lightning. Seems small, and not to my taste.

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I don’t know too many Tesla owners that love the interior. They accept it because of everything else.
Yes.
I did a real truck thing this morning. 20 bags of mulch and 10 bags of salt from Home Depot. Weed trimmer stacked on top of mulch to hit a could of trails I ride on to clear brush/sticker bushes from trail.
That looks so horrendously cheap. Ugh.
Yes.
The word that comes to mind is "kitschy." I'm not throwing stones at Tesla. Their technology with respect to a lot of things is excellent. It seems, however, they could use someone who worked in luxury vehicles to refine their interiors. The comments further down in the thread I linked indicated that the interior was not very roomy.
 
Yes.
I did a real truck thing this morning. 20 bags of mulch and 10 bags of salt from Home Depot. Weed trimmer stacked on top of mulch to hit a could of trails I ride on to clear brush/sticker bushes from trail.

Yes.
The word that comes to mind is "kitschy." I'm not throwing stones at Tesla. Their technology with respect to a lot of things is excellent. It seems, however, they could use someone who worked in luxury vehicles to refine their interiors. The comments further down in the thread I linked indicated that the interior was not very roomy.
Me too. Have the tailgate down doing a tailgate at Morris Plains MD parade.
 
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Makes me dizzy and forgetful.

So all this ranchin' that you've taken up... does that mean you're gonna do the right thing and show up to tailgate 6 hours before kickoff with the rest of us, so that we can use the Lightning as our "utility support vehicle"? I'm envisioning a whole battery of electrical appliances: sound system, lights, cooktops, blenders... So much possibility there.
 
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So all this ranchin' that you've taken up... does that mean you're gonna do the right thing and show up to tailgate 6 hours before kickoff with the rest of us, so that we can use the Lightning as our "utility support vehicle"? I'm envisioning a whole battery of electrical appliances: sound system, lights, cooktops, blenders... So much possibility there.
Will try. Tried to get the back bed outlets turned on, and that was a challenge. FIgured it out, but I felt like I needed a computer programmer assist.
 
Will try. Tried to get the back bed outlets turned on, and that was a challenge. FIgured it out, but I felt like I needed a computer programmer assist.

That doesn't seem like it should be hard. The choices should be a hard switch or something you click on a menu.
 
Will try. Tried to get the back bed outlets turned on, and that was a challenge. FIgured it out, but I felt like I needed a computer programmer assist.
YouTube is your friend. I’m going to buy an electric portable grill for tailgate this year. I also have an electric heater for the cold night games. Maximizing the Lighting use.
 
Guess Tesla still has potential. I'm on a vacation in SC. A few people asked me if my Model Y is an expensive car and how fast it is. Most of them don't know anything about the federal credit.
 
Guess Tesla still has potential. I'm on a vacation in SC. A few people asked me if my Model Y is an expensive car and how fast it is. Most of them don't know anything about the federal credit.
This is the reason Tesla is dipping their toes into paid advertising. Most of the stuff put out by Tesla on YouTube and Twitter is preaching to the choir. Something as basic as charging cost vs fueling cost is new information to those not in the EV bubble. Doesn't help that there is a shitstorm of clickbait FUD circulated in the MSM.
 
This is the reason Tesla is dipping their toes into paid advertising. Most of the stuff put out by Tesla on YouTube and Twitter is preaching to the choir. Something as basic as charging cost vs fueling cost is new information to those not in the EV bubble. Doesn't help that there is a shitstorm of clickbait FUD circulated in the MSM.
Tesla paid for ads. Just not in a traditional sense. But now they will pay for ads like legacy auto.
 
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