With Ford and GM changing over to NACS (tesla) charging it is going to force the Chargepoint, EVgo, and all the others to change over their charging stations to use NACS.
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Yep. Standardization can stifle innovation at times, but in this case, I think it's worth the risk. If everyone adopts the same charging tech, then it'll be quicker and cheaper to build out enough charging stations. And the Tesla charging stations are, by all reports, much more reliable than others.
It'll be interesting to see if the European Luxury brands follow suit and adopt the Tesla station tech. I know some of them have been planning to build out some luxury charging stations much in the same way their modern showrooms are somewhat luxurious with comfortable seating, good coffee and other beverages, and various other amenities.
Tom is on the YouTube channels EVInsider and State of Charge. He also is on the EVInsider podcast which is audio from YouTube. He's an NJ Guy and is a Charging Guru.
There is a charging standard in the EU. I'd say that the European Luxury brands here will have to change to NACS.
The panel discussed the EU standard - CCS without the poorly design tab thing. I personally prefer the NACS standard, but understand how the EU came to its decision. Agree that NACS is now the de facto standard in the US/Canada. Question is - will the American CCS be retooled to the Euro standard?
Anyone in the market for Tesla should just wait for these end of the quarter/year sales.
Some discounts are tied to inventory vehicles only, but yes, good deals to be had.
Anyone in the market for Tesla should just wait for these end of the quarter/year sales.
Some deals on 3 & Y also.
That’s the danger of dynamic pricing and mass market production. Have seen a few more model X recently.
There is no perfect system. I'll take Tesla's approach over buying through a dealership.
Speaking of X. I think it's days are numbered. It's overengineered, expensive to manufacture, and expensive for consumers. Tesla would kill it with a true 3 row SUV. Simplify the manufacturing and for as cool as they are, lose the falcon wing doors.
Tesla Has More Awful News About Its Semi Trucks
Tesla CEO Elon Musk introduced the Semi to a waiting world on Nov. 16. This was the electric vehicle maker's first take on the semi-trailer truck, and Musk said that the Semi would have a single-charge range of 500 miles and be less expensive to operate than a diesel truck. In January 2022...
almost forgot about this product.
Leave it to the yahoos at Yahoo. An OTA update for 36 trucks = "Awful"...lol
Tesla Has More Awful News About Its Semi Trucks
Tesla CEO Elon Musk introduced the Semi to a waiting world on Nov. 16. This was the electric vehicle maker's first take on the semi-trailer truck, and Musk said that the Semi would have a single-charge range of 500 miles and be less expensive to operate than a diesel truck. In January 2022...www.yahoo.com
almost forgot about this product.
There's not going to be much news or production of semi until the dedicated production line is built in the Giga Nevada expansion.
Scientists just invented a new material that could help EVs drive 10 times as far before needing a recharge
The breakthrough could radically expand the charge capacity of EV batteries.
A 10X increase in range would obviously eliminate range concerns as a barrier to adoption. Although I wonder how long it would take to charge a battery with a range of, say, 3500 miles.
Scientists just invented a new material that could help EVs drive 10 times as far before needing a recharge
The breakthrough could radically expand the charge capacity of EV batteries.www.yahoo.com
So 24 hours in and I will say that, aside from the amazing job that Mazda is doing these days with F&F and interior design / quality, no $35,000.00 CUV has any right being this friggin' fast.
Aehra Reveals a Gorgeous Electric Sedan with a Prosaic Name
Italian EV startup Aehra says this Sedan EV and a previously revealed SUV EV will be out in 2026. Range is high (500 miles), but so is price (up to $200,000).
Could we be seeing the start of an EV price war?
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You can now buy a Hyundai IONIQ 6 for less than a Tesla Model 3
Which electric sedan would you buy? With Hyundai’s recent price cuts, the IONIQ 6 is now cheaper to buy than...
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After watching the two lengthy charging videos, I'm more convinced than ever that the Tesla charge port (NACS) is vastly superior. Why? Vertical integration of the entire charging process versus a diffusive system with many manufacturers, charge station operations, and interoperability between the charger and vehicle.
Rivian just jumped on board the TSLA charging train. Everyone is doing so!
Europe uses the CCS2 system. It's the same as the USA CCS (CCS1), but without the stupid and cheap-ass tab that clicks the connector to the vehicle.
Maybe, but it seems not all manufacturers will be cutting prices. Some are planning to increase prices significantly in the second half of 2023.Could we be seeing the start of an EV price war?
You can now buy a Hyundai IONIQ 6 for less than a Tesla Model 3
Which electric sedan would you buy? With Hyundai’s recent price cuts, the IONIQ 6 is now cheaper to buy than...
Porsche Will Significantly Increase Its Prices To Sustain High Profits
Additionally, the German company plans on updating its current-generation Cayenne SUV, which will continue to be sold alongside the upcoming electric version.
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2023 Porsche Taycan: Big Price Increase And Slightly More EPA Range
In today's post we will take a closer look at the 2023 Porsche Taycan family, including prices, EPA range/efficiency and general specs.
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Although it's always possible it's a fake price hike intended to lure in more buyers in the first half of 2023. But they've been raising prices across all product lines over the past couple years, so I doubt it's a fake and I think another price hike seems likely. Was talking w/a sales manager and dealer earlier today and during April of 2020, they were selling at a loss just to move inventory. Guess they're making up for lost profits now.
That people keep shelling out so much for cars of all kinds has me worried about economic blowback. But that's a discussion for the investments thread, I guess.
More importantly, all non-Tesla chargers (EVgo, Chargepoint, E.A.) will be changing to the NACS plug. We're heading to where charging stations will be as standard as gasoline pumps to fill your tank/battery.
Breakdown of Tesla's global charging:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thr...nd-europe-compared-for-models-s-x-3-y.246571/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thr...nd-europe-compared-for-models-s-x-3-y.246571/
Love these headline “non-advertising” tweets. Too bad majority of model 3 and Y are produced in China.
Are you trying to tell us that Tesla produces the majority of their vehicles within the world's largest car market????? I'm floored! Why would they do that??
Your moronic statement is only true for the 3. Shanghai produces more 3s than Fremont. The Y is produced in 2 US factories (Fremont & Austin) + Berlin which is > Shanghai. Every Tesla sold in the US is made in the US. 🇺🇸
That's not true. Model 3 and Y vehicles in North America are made in Fremont and Austin. Their Shanghai plant supplies the Chinese Market, Europe (along with Giga Berlin) and in other parts of Asia.
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I am super impressed with Honda group. This is a Japanese car company with 5 out top 10 most American made.
