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OT: Electric vehicles

Exponential growth:

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I don't know a single unhappy Bolt owner from the shows I've taken my Model 3 to and I've met many. I just wish GM would get more serious about its production volumes.
As the market grows, companies will do more to sell into it. It's just good business.
 
Agree they're not electric cars, disagree
The thing looks like an ugly toy. The wheels look like the cheapest thing ever put on a car.

Seriously. WTF is with those wheels? Is it a competition to see how much drab plastic we can load onto the... the... whatever it is? Ooooh, I know, the flying dustpan.

I would have loved a toy like that when I was 4 or 5. As a grown man, no thank you.

Wonder if they could build a representative model of that heinous bodywork atop a Big Wheel?
 
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Agree they're not electric cars, disagree

I would have loved a toy like that when I was 4 or 5. As a grown man, no thank you.

Wonder if they could build a representative model of that heinous bodywork atop a Big Wheel?
The el-cheapo plasticky looking wheels had me thinking Tonka Truck. But, I mean, why not just go ahead and build full-scale life sized Tonka Trucks for people, instead of a flying dustpan?
 
We dipped our foot into the Electric Car market getting a 2020 Ioniq PHEV.

Got a great instant rebate from Hyundai, and saved another 2k from the Costco Auto Club benefit thing.

The electric motor itself can go a little over 30 miles on a full charge, but the hybrid MPG is ridiculously good.

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We drove from Charlotte to Orlando, and at highway driving at speeds of 75+ we were still getting high 50s MPG.
 
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A drunk person can operate any car. Telsa won't make the world perfectly safe, but they are making the world safer.
When automated driving systems can use V2V and V2I, then they'll start making the world safer. Until then, it's a great big bunch of BS. All the little contrived test results are useless. I look forward to when everyone figures this out and puts the brakes on it and focuses on getting V2V/V2I done.
 
When automated driving systems can use V2V and V2I, then they'll start making the world safer. Until then, it's a great big bunch of BS. All the little contrived test results are useless. I look forward to when everyone figures this out and puts the brakes on it and focuses on getting V2V/V2I done.

I'm all in favor both V2V and VTI, but gave up on these a few years ago. Government cannot (or will not) keep up with rate of technological change. It will be decades before we see meaningful V2I. Maybe the industry will start working together on VTV, but the market has a lot of sorting to do before that occurs.
 
We dipped our foot into the Electric Car market getting a 2020 Ioniq PHEV.

Got a great instant rebate from Hyundai, and saved another 2k from the Costco Auto Club benefit thing.

The electric motor itself can go a little over 30 miles on a full charge, but the hybrid MPG is ridiculously good.

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We drove from Charlotte to Orlando, and at highway driving at speeds of 75+ we were still getting high 50s MPG.

Congrats - nice looking display. Wondering if you and your family thought about getting a plug in EV. Was cost the decider?
 
I'm all in favor both V2V and VTI, but gave up on these a few years ago. Government cannot (or will not) keep up with rate of technological change. It will be decades before we see meaningful V2I. Maybe the industry will start working together on VTV, but the market has a lot of sorting to do before that occurs.
Push back on this fake automated driving would probably incentivize private investment in V2V and hopefully stimulate public investment in V2I (or VTI, if you prefer - it does look better).
 
Congrats - nice looking display. Wondering if you and your family thought about getting a plug in EV. Was cost the decider?

Well, we still rent in an apartment complex, so we don't have a sure fire way to always keep the car charged. However with the PHEV, there are enough chargers out and about when we go out on the weekend we can easily top off the battery in a couple hours. Once we actually get a house, we will 100% go fully electric with our next car purchase.
 
Push back on this fake automated driving would probably incentivize private investment in V2V and hopefully stimulate public investment in V2I (or VTI, if you prefer - it does look better).

I was initially hopeful of a big VTI investment from the infrastructure bill. But there is too much sausage-making going on. Hell, it might not even pass at all.
 
I was initially hopeful of a big VTI investment from the infrastructure bill. But there is too much sausage-making going on. Hell, it might not even pass at all.
It should be in the bill. But I won't be surprised if it's not. Lots of stuff has been neglected for so long that there are billions needed just to make roads/bridges and similar stuff safe.

What troubles me is that we might see a ton of traffic control devices updated without the tech, or hooks for the tech, that would provide part of the VTI solution. Wasteful. But that's how it goes most of the time.
 
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I honestly think V2I will happen before V2V (the correct way of writing it). It's the more important of the two elements and a lot of the infrastructure is already in place, doing other things.
 
Gee, no where did Kirkhorn say that. You're reacting solely to a click-bait headline that is not accurate. Not very perceptive.
Perhaps people shouldn't post click-bait headlined articles? Most of us just don't care enough about ANY automotive manufacturer to be actually reading articles about how well they're doing.

I like cars, not car companies. To me, it's pretty strange to be posting articles about car company business news in a thread about EVs. Isn't there a stock thread somewhere where such a post wouldn't be so out of place?
 
Perhaps people shouldn't post click-bait headlined articles? Most of us just don't care enough about ANY automotive manufacturer to be actually reading articles about how well they're doing.

I like cars, not car companies. To me, it's pretty strange to be posting articles about car company business news in a thread about EVs. Isn't there a stock thread somewhere where such a post wouldn't be so out of place?
Jealousy? What exactly do you imagine I am jealous about? 🙂
Consumer demand for a particular brand is completely relevant in a thread about EVs. Actual data demonstrates the article is factual, so I wouldn't call it clickbait. Clickbait would be someone linking an article about Taycan outselling Tesla S and X despite the fact that Tesla didn't produce those models for most of the year.
The lonely incel life is taking its toll on your cognitive abilities.
 
Consumer demand for a particular brand is completely relevant in a thread about EVs. Actual data demonstrates the article is factual, so I wouldn't call it clickbait. Clickbait would be someone linking an article about Taycan outselling Tesla S and X despite the fact that Tesla didn't produce those models for most of the year.
The lonely incel life is taking its toll on your cognitive abilities.
Wasn't me who labeled the headline clickbait. Take that up with the forum member who did.

The only reason I would ever post such fanboy nonsense as the Taycan/Tesla sales comparison is to try to show, by example, how posting that kind of fanboy crap for ANY manufacturer is lame in a generalized thread about cars. I personally couldn't GAF about how any automotive manufacturer is doing versus any other automotive manufacturers. I like cars, not car manufacturers.

You clearly failed to get the point.
 
Has anyone bothered to verify whether writers/tweeters/influencers like Sawyer Merritt are part of the Tesla “referral” program? Does Tesla disclose details on its “referral” program or how many free cars they give to influencers?
 
Has anyone bothered to verify whether writers/tweeters/influencers like Sawyer Merritt are part of the Tesla “referral” program? Does Tesla disclose details on its “referral” program or how many free cars they give to influencers?
I plan to dig deeper, and yes this article is old, but interesting to say the least:

 
I plan to dig deeper, and yes this article is old, but interesting to say the least:


Sounds Qanon-ey. Let's see how much traction you get uncovering Tesla's secret marketing department.
 
Sounds Qanon-ey. Let's see how much traction you get uncovering Tesla's secret marketing department.
Yes Qanon for sure. The influencer market is estimated at $14B. Mostly people pushing products and agendas not because they use them or believe, but because of the money funneled to them behind the scenes. Yes, I realize this went on before the internet but social media changed the game. Until you’ve seen an real influencer contract you wouldn’t believe how it all works in terms of the specific number of posts, tweets, etc., what they have to say and when, maintain certain number of followers, re-posts, generate comments, non-disclosures, etc.
 
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