OT: Electric vehicles

[Knight Shift]

I’ll answer the question not asked, I’ve used teslas fsd and though I think it’s safe and amazing, I don’t like the feeling of it. I used it on long highway drives no problem but hated it in town and in traffic.

I have an idea, and maybe I will patent it. While not for me, self-driving should be standard equipment on all vehicles, with the condition that it is automatically activated when a driver is doing the driving and not paying attention, speeding, and/or weaving in and out of traffic. Self-driving would be programmed to adhere to the speed limit and stay in the right lane, with no passing. In other words, self-driving should be mandatory for terrible drivers and auto-activated.

 

[fsg2]

I have an idea, and maybe I will patent it. While not for me, self-driving should be standard equipment on all vehicles, with the condition that it is automatically activated when a driver is doing the driving and not paying attention, speeding, and/or weaving in and out of traffic. Self-driving would be programmed to adhere to the speed limit and stay in the right lane, with no passing. In other words, self-driving should be mandatory for terrible drivers and auto-activated.

That'd be a good middle step, whether mandated by government or incentivized by insurance. Tech will, of course, need to get better and more widespread first.

I think after enough refinement, it will and should replace most human driving. The ultimate vision only really works if all traffic is being driven autonomously.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

I have an idea, and maybe I will patent it. While not for me, self-driving should be standard equipment on all vehicles, with the condition that it is automatically activated when a driver is doing the driving and not paying attention, speeding, and/or weaving in and out of traffic. Self-driving would be programmed to adhere to the speed limit and stay in the right lane, with no passing. In other words, self-driving should be mandatory for terrible drivers and auto-activated.

I can tell you that if fsd is enabled, if you look down at your phone it obnoxiously alerts you to knock it off lol

 

[Knight Shift]

I can tell you that if fsd is enabled, if you look down at your phone it obnoxiously alerts you to knock it off lol

My Lightning does that, and IIRC, so did my crappy little Ford pickup truck I bought before the Lightning. It also detected if I was dozing off.

 

[mildone]

Don't mean to step in the middle of a rock fight, but was wondering if you have tried Ford's self-driving feature Blue Cruise? I have not. Frankly, I think that self-driving is bonkers and don't foresee ever using it.

Eventually, when V2I is implemented, it’ll be very safe and reliable. Until then, though, a human needs to be paying attention unless in perfect and unchanging conditions - which are rare in most people’s driving experience.

And, as I keep saying, requiring a human to be attentive when the car is doing all the work is in direct opposition to human nature with respect the the limitations of our attention. And yes, that’s brokers.

 

[mildone]

I think after enough refinement, it will and should replace most human driving. The ultimate vision only really works if all traffic is being driven autonomously.

Whoa there. Pretty sure that’s not happening anytime soon. The tech could be 100% perfect.

Telling Americans they cannot operate their own private vehicles will never be politically feasible. Probably not constitutionally feasible either. I’m certainly 100% opposed to it, although a takeover in the way @Knight Shift described it, for impaired or inattentive drivers, would be okay.

I mean, most states are unable to ban radar detectors on constitutional grounds (a good thing). We can’t (and shouldn’t) ban guns on constitutional grounds. Banning the right to move about freely ain’t gonna happen before those other things. And they shouldn’t.

Freedom vs. ultimate safety. I’m choosing freedom because once you give it up, you never get it back.

 

[fsg2]

Whoa there. Pretty sure that’s not happening anytime soon. The tech could be 100% perfect.

Telling Americans they cannot operate their own private vehicles will never be politically feasible. Probably not constitutionally feasible either. I’m certainly 100% opposed to it, although a takeover in the way @Knight Shift described it, for impaired or inattentive drivers, would be okay.

I mean, most states are unable to ban radar detectors on constitutional grounds (a good thing). We can’t (and shouldn’t) ban guns on constitutional grounds. Banning the right to move about freely ain’t gonna happen before those other things. And they shouldn’t.

Freedom vs. ultimate safety. I’m choosing freedom because once you give it up, you never get it back.

Didn't say any time soon, alluded to the opposite. Didn't even vaguely allude to banning anyone's ability to move around freely.

It will be plenty politically feasible when autonomous cars are markedly safer. Used to think we might live to see it, but now I doubt it. Time will help ease feasibility.

 

[jtung230]

More reading comprehension issues. They were fined for not reporting, not the accident. The reporting of accidents does not mean the car or person was at fault, it means they need to investigate. Follow along.

Try reading this again.

Tesla accounted for 40 out of 45 fatal crashes reported to NHTSA through Oct. 15.

 

[Knight Shift]