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OT: Electric vehicles

Those can fail too. Speed is the main issue. People are going too fast
Speed might be part of it, but making latched electrical seems risky to me.

Unrelated to problems getting out of the car, the biggest issue these days, IMO, is driver inattention, texting or otherwise engaging with devices instead of focusing on driving itself. I see driver inattention constantly, both when driving and when out walking the dog. And I keep seeing near misses of a variety that suggests inattention was at fault.
 
Speed might be part of it, but making latched electrical seems risky to me.

Unrelated to problems getting out of the car, the biggest issue these days, IMO, is driver inattention, texting or otherwise engaging with devices instead of focusing on driving itself. I see driver inattention constantly, both when driving and when out walking the dog. And I keep seeing near misses of a variety that suggests inattention was at fault.
Yeah I see tons of people walking dogs with their heads in their phone. Not a big deal, but very emblematic of where we are.
 
Yeah I see tons of people walking dogs with their heads in their phone. Not a big deal, but very emblematic of where we are.
I meant that I see drivers in their cars looking down at some device instead of having their eyes up, when I am driving or I am walking our dog.

But yeah, is also true that people also are fixated on their phones when out walking around. I’m less concerned about that because it largely only creates problems for the person walking. As opposed to distracted drivers who create deadly problems for everybody around them.
 
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Sad. I have a new Model 3 and the manual door handle is located right under the arm rest - very easy to locate and operate. I do like the electric door open switch but when people get into my car who are not familiar with the setup I always explain how the two latches work.
 
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Sad. I have a new Model 3 and the manual door handle is located right under the arm rest - very easy to locate and operate. I do like the electric door open switch but when people get into my car who are not familiar with the setup I always explain how the two latches work.
I think the article I posted suggests that the mechanical latch didn't release regardless of how the occupants tried to activate it. Meaning the mechanical portion was at fault, not the electronics to activate it. Which is why another forum member mentioned speed as a factor.

It points to a poor mechanical design with the door latches more than an electronics issues.
 
I think the article I posted suggests that the mechanical latch didn't release regardless of how the occupants tried to activate it. Meaning the mechanical portion was at fault, not the electronics to activate it. Which is why another forum member mentioned speed as a factor.

It points to a poor mechanical design with the door latches more than an electronics issues.
All 4 of the mechanical latches broke?
 
All 4 of the mechanical latches broke?
Looks like they don’t know yet…
“Authorities are now investigating the crash and looking into why the four other people inside the car weren’t able to escape the burning vehicle, reports Futurism. The site adds that the findings so far “implicate to some degree” the electric doors that Tesla fits to cars like the Model Y, which require emergency latches to open if the car has no power”

Nothing about the manual releases not working.
 
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Looks like they don’t know yet…
“Authorities are now investigating the crash and looking into why the four other people inside the car weren’t able to escape the burning vehicle, reports Futurism. The site adds that the findings so far “implicate to some degree” the electric doors that Tesla fits to cars like the Model Y, which require emergency latches to open if the car has no power”

Nothing about the manual releases not working.
That’s right. It’s all speculation as to the cause.

However, it’s not speculation to want our cars to not fail to open in crashes where fires are involved. So whatever the cause, the engineers need to figure it out and ensure it cannot happen again. And, IIRC, Tesla cars have had other reported issues with not opening, as mentioned in the article.
 
That’s right. It’s all speculation as to the cause.

However, it’s not speculation to want our cars to not fail to open in crashes where fires are involved. So whatever the cause, the engineers need to figure it out and ensure it cannot happen again. And, IIRC, Tesla cars have had other reported issues with not opening, as mentioned in the article.
True, there’s also a chance they just didn’t know how to open them which shouldn’t be an issue but is. The manual release is pretty obvious once you know it’s there on the Model 3 but I didn’t notice it until I accidentally pulled it two years into owning the car. The article says the back release on the model y is even more difficult to find.
 
That’s right. It’s all speculation as to the cause.

However, it’s not speculation to want our cars to not fail to open in crashes where fires are involved. So whatever the cause, the engineers need to figure it out and ensure it cannot happen again. And, IIRC, Tesla cars have had other reported issues with not opening, as mentioned in the article.
Elon bad
 
Well this will ruffle some feathers…


Don’t shoot the messenger. 😀
 
He is right - makes fiscal and strategic sense.
You know this due to your advanced degrees in aerospace engineering and decades of military command experience combined with years of US strategic defense experience, do ya?

Like you, Musk probably ought to avoid looking moronic for making claims about stuff for which he isn’t trained, and has no practical experience. He could be right or wrong and neither he nor you nor anybody else here has any educated way of actually knowing it.

But he said it so you believe it. Smart.
 
You know this due to your advanced degrees in aerospace engineering and decades of military command experience combined with years of US strategic defense experience, do ya?

Like you, Musk probably ought to avoid looking moronic for making claims about stuff for which he isn’t trained, and has no practical experience. He could be right or wrong and neither he nor you nor anybody else here has any educated way of actually knowing it.

But he said it so you believe it. Smart.
Wrong again - hate to be the one to break it to you - but you have EDS.
 
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Wrong again - hate to be the one to break it to you - but you have EDS.
I always find it funny watching zealots and true believers think they’re winning a debate just by restating how anybody who doesn’t slurp their hero’s sack is wrong without a shred of factual or logical support. 🤣

Strong argument you’ve put up there. 😉
 
I always find it funny watching zealots and true believers think they’re winning a debate just by restating how anybody who doesn’t slurp their hero’s sack is wrong without a shred of factual or logical support. 🤣

Strong argument you’ve put up there. 😉
They are lazy...
 
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