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And if you had a non-Tesla EV (other than the new Ioniq and a good rapid charger), each battery refill would take 45-60 minutes). I got spoiled by my diesel SUV I got rid of, having to fill up every 600 miles. It was fantastic that we had to stop only 3 times for fuel on our drive from NJ to AZ back in 2019. In a non-Tesla, EV we would need about 12 stops, adding about 10-12 hours to the trip. From Rutgers Chris' perspective (I think he owns a Tesla), it is a better- 8 stops, with 15 minutes of charging, which is much better--but that is optimum conditions. That may be more tolerable/doable, but the long range battery Tesla models are expensive and out of reach for many consumers.
I posted this a while back and your "45-60 minutes" to charge reminded me. If you find the right charger, there's no reason to charge that long.
A lot of the charging times are misleading. There is a charging curve for EVs. You're going to get the fastest charge when at a low state of charge. As the state of charge increases, the charging rate tapers.
So, if you're in a cannonball run, you want to charge at as low a SOC as possible and then unplug at around 80%. Going from 5% to 70-80% might take ~20 minutes depending on the vehicle and charging speed. If you insist on "topping off", going from 80% to 100% would also take ~20 minutes because of the charging taper. Long story short, if you're concerned about time, don't charge to 100%.
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Personally, I have no issues with stopping every 3 hours for a brief charge. I'm not in a race and I find it makes the drive easier. No road fatigue, especially using Autopilot for the highway miles. Tesla superchargers are right off the highway, and every one I've visited has had food, drink, and restrooms available.
Each to their own. I still don’t get why people try to tell other people how they should feel about the inherent (charging time) and/or potential delays (when there’s a line for chargers) in mid-trip charging.But if you’re doing it once or twice a year, weighing that inconvenience against the convenience of no gas, oil changes, etc is probably a bigger consideration.
I hear you and I’m getting there myself. But a pee stop is only 5 minutes. And there’s always the bottle method. 😀I’m too old to drive 250 miles w/o having to stop to take a bathroom break.
And of course, if you work at NASA and are on a cross-country trip intent on murder, no issues with poopy breaks either lol.I hear you and I’m getting there myself. But a pee stop is only 5 minutes. And there’s always the bottle method. 😀
Again, this will all be resolved in no time by a combination of lighter, longer range batteries, higher speed charging, and a much more ubiquitous charging network with more chargers at every highway rest area. Charging will get to be just like refueling or maybe better.
Just ain’t quite there yet.
This is part of the real world experience that gets reported and gives people pause. It’ll get way better, and pretty quickly I think. I‘m content to wait.Do not do it. EV's get less range at high speed and you will also be running the AC. I have the Y and love it but last summer we took it on a long trip in sunny mid 90 degree weather doing around 70 mph and the 324 range was working out closer to 200 under those conditions.
Right. They have their bodily functions down to a science at NASA. 🙂And of course, if you work at NASA and are on a cross-country trip intent on murder, no issues with poopy breaks either lol.
That would be helpful. But not sure if the finances would make sense within the various different business models across those different chains.I wonder if you will see fast food places like Chick-Fil-A, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Sonic, Burger King, etc. put in charging stations?
Panera by me has a bunch of Telsa charging stationsI wonder if you will see fast food places like Chick-Fil-A, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Sonic, Burger King, etc. put in charging stations?
According to the charge stats on my Tesla app, my gas savings is $112 in the last 31 days.![]()
Kelley Blue Book says the cost to own a Tesla Model 3 over 5 years is $16K less than the competition
Kelley Blue Book (KBB) has named the Tesla Model 3 as the most cost effective choice in the luxury electric vehicle (EV) market segment over a five year period.driveteslacanada.ca
That could be Tesla’s slogan… Tesla - a great car for saving money.According to the charge stats on my Tesla app, my gas savings is $112 in the last 31 days.
One of the advantages of Tesla's disdain for paid advertising is their not needing to pay absurd advertising fees to concoct campaigns with vapid and meaningless slogans such as “the ultimate driving machine“, “never follow”, et al.That could be Tesla’s slogan… Tesla - a great car for saving money.
It’s not exactly “the ultimate driving machine“ or “never follow” or “engineered to move the human spirit”. But if you drive a Tesla for 50 years, you can save up enough money in gas savings to buy your way into one of those less practical slogans. 😉
Do you follow Musk on twitter?One of the advantages of Tesla's disdain for paid advertising is their not needing to pay absurd advertising fees to concoct campaigns with vapid and meaningless slogans such as “the ultimate driving machine“, “never follow”, et al.
I've always felt sorry for my fellow humans who are susceptible to such simple manipulation. We all need to stop being influenced by such banality. "Just Do It" please.
Just find it funny that so many Tesla owners hang on to every tweet by Musk think everyone else is easily manipulated. Do you own Dogecoin?No. Relevance?
No. I don't follow Musk's Twitter nor do I speculate in Dogecoin or any other cryptocurrency. I did invest in Tesla three years ago (based on what I had discovered about Musk's entrepreneurial wizardry and contrarian spirit), the first individual stock I'd purchased in 25 years. I also purchased a Tesla Y two years ago, based on YouTube reviews and a test drive.Just find it funny that so many Tesla owners hang on to every tweet by Musk think everyone else is easily manipulated. Do you own Dogecoin?
No. I don't follow Musk's Twitter nor do I speculate in Dogecoin or any other cryptocurrency. I did invest in Tesla three years ago (based on what I had discovered about Musk's entrepreneurial wizardry and contrarian spirit), the first individual stock I'd purchased in 25 years. I also purchased a Tesla Y two years ago, based on YouTube reviews and a test drive.
By easily manipulated I am referencing the well known fact that most humans easily fall prey to the blandishments of emotional advertising (i.e. being more alluring to the opposite sex, being seen as more masculine/feminine or more successful, etc.) The idea that your status is somehow directly tied to your purchases.
I believe I explicitly stated above that most all humans are influenced by these emotions, whether Tesla owners or those who use laughing/crying emojis to punctuate their feeble attempt at 'gotcha' humor.And Tesla buyers definitely never equate status with purchasing 😂😂
"Most all"? 🙂I believe I explicitly stated above that most all humans are influenced by these emotions, whether Tesla owners or those who use laughing/crying emojis to punctuate their feeble attempt at 'gotcha' humor.
Our leaders are proclaiming "just buy an electric car" to deal with high gas prices!!
Tesla is not really a luxury vehicle. It is just conveniently lumped in with luxury vehicles.![]()
Tesla Passes BMW in US Luxury Sales - BimmerFile
The day has come that BMW isn’t fighting Mercedes and Lexus for the luxury crown but Tesla. And as of January Tesla is winning....www.bimmerfile.com
Hate to break it to you. YouTube is there to influence you. Also, Tesla is a status purchase. Again, find the irony funny.No. I don't follow Musk's Twitter nor do I speculate in Dogecoin or any other cryptocurrency. I did invest in Tesla three years ago (based on what I had discovered about Musk's entrepreneurial wizardry and contrarian spirit), the first individual stock I'd purchased in 25 years. I also purchased a Tesla Y two years ago, based on YouTube reviews and a test drive.
By easily manipulated I am referencing the well known fact that most humans easily fall prey to the blandishments of emotional advertising (i.e. being more alluring to the opposite sex, being seen as more masculine/feminine or more successful, etc.) The idea that your worth and status is somehow directly tied to your purchases.
Everybody wants to get in on the profiteering made possible by a global pandemic and a war in Ukraine. Why should Tesla be any different?Our leaders are proclaiming "just buy and electric car" to deal with high gas prices!!
So just expensive, not luxurious.Tesla is not really a luxury vehicle. It is just conveniently lumped in with luxury vehicles.
"We'll start by saying that many people, including those on the Tesla team, don't consider its cars luxury vehicles, but that's not the point here.
Tesla calls its cars "premium," since they're more expensive than most competing vehicles and arguably more "premium" than many mainstream, non-luxury cars. Nonetheless, Tesla's cars are lumped into the luxury category by automotive reviewing websites, as well as almost all automotive rankings and awards."
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Tesla Passes Audi To Become Fourth-Largest Luxury Brand In U.S.
Many people, including the Tesla team, don't consider its cars luxury vehicles, but that's not the point here. Tesla is making a clear push toward the top.insideevs.com
Yeah, very sloppy wording. I'll try to do better."Most all"? 🙂
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We looked hard at buying an EV for our oldest kid, the one who will drive the car from NJ to Wisconsin this summer for an internship (and then back to NJ). We are buying the car as a gift, and we could not justify spending an additional $8-10K for a non-Tesla electric car with sub 300 mile range and an unproven/sketchy charging network. To move up to Tesla, the price point would have been $20-25K (including the tax incentive), and we did not even need to break out the calculator to determine if it was worth it.Everybody wants to get in on the profiteering made possible by a global pandemic and a war in Ukraine. Why should Tesla be any different?
But for sure, when leadership says by an electric car to cope with gas prices, it's typical of the widespread tone-deafness that has permeated non-local (i.e. state and national) politics for ages. I'd really much rather politicians during inflationary or other tough economic phases just said "we're gonna need to do some belt-tightening for a while" which is the fact of the matter.
But none ever do going way back, except, kinda, HW Bush a little bit.
This is true. A Mercedes GL450 is a good example of a "standard" luxury SUV (i.e. very luxurious but not a Rolls Royce or whatever). A Tesla Model Y is a perfectly fine car that, according to all objective reports, is not as luxurious feeling as a Kia Telluride's top trim (which is often compared to the Merc).Tesla is not really a luxury vehicle. It is just conveniently lumped in with luxury vehicles.
"We'll start by saying that many people, including those on the Tesla team, don't consider its cars luxury vehicles, but that's not the point here.
Tesla calls its cars "premium," since they're more expensive than most competing vehicles and arguably more "premium" than many mainstream, non-luxury cars. Nonetheless, Tesla's cars are lumped into the luxury category by automotive reviewing websites, as well as almost all automotive rankings and awards."
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Tesla Passes Audi To Become Fourth-Largest Luxury Brand In U.S.
Many people, including the Tesla team, don't consider its cars luxury vehicles, but that's not the point here. Tesla is making a clear push toward the top.insideevs.com
Consider using more emojis. A picture being worth a thousand words and no risk of sloppy wording. 😉Yeah, very sloppy wording. I'll try to do better.
But to be fair, while somewhat expensive, they're not really luxury car expensive either. They start out priced well below the luxury automotive segment and only the highest model Teslas (e.g. Model S Plaid) get into the luxury automotive range - and are priced more for performance than luxury, I guess.So just expensive, not luxurious.