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OT: Electric vehicles

BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap said:
I think we can and will, but there's a limit. There's also a practicality issues, cost, and scalability.

A good example would be anode material. Graphite is the current choice despite the fact that a silicon anode would increase capacity by at least 2X. Silicon is unstable and degrades quickly when charged/discharged. There is a push to increase the silicon content of anodes. Thermal management of batteries is another area that can and should improve over time.
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While it has slowed down, in chipmaking, chips are continually getting smaller. That's what I spend a good part of every day on. I had mentioned that previously, our office handled battery technology patents, and we also handled catalytic converter technology for gasoline, diesel and stationary engines. We don't do either of those now, but would guess there is a lot more activity in battery technology than engine emissions.
 
RUevolution36 said:
Not just that...these same fanboys...two or three in particular...also go out of their way to shit on the info about other automakers' efforts in this space. VW sucks, GM won't survive, Ford is stupid, Rivian can't do it, Honda and Toyota are dinosaurs, etc. etc. etc. So they want to deal it, but can't take it when someone says anything that doesn't bow in front of tesla and musk.
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Exactly right.
 
knightinaz said:
In addition the Mustang Mach E is sold out and is building a long waiting list.

On March 16th I received a confirmation on my Mach E order and was told realistic delivery would be Oct 1. Last week my local delivering dealer told me that my order confirmation had been bumped and that I would now be looking at a 2023 with an anticipated delivery of March/April 2023.

I would agree that I believe Ford will be around for a long time.
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Sorry to hear about the delay. Can be very frustrating. And yes, it seems pretty likely Ford will be around for a long time, along with most of the other major players.

I have been seeing a bunch of Mach Es on the road recently. They look good. Just need wider wheels/tires (for looks, although that would be deleterious to range).
 
mildone said:
Hybrid maybe. Especially if they give the car a facelift and coordinate some of the more incongruent lines on the sides and back.
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i am with you on the look...i like the vette from the front, from the side, and from the back. i just don't like each of those profiles together.
 
mildone said:
Sorry to hear about the delay. Can be very frustrating. And yes, it seems pretty likely Ford will be around for a long time, along with most of the other major players.

I have been seeing a bunch of Mach Es on the road recently. They look good. Just need wider wheels/tires (for looks, although that would be deleterious to range).
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As a Mustang fanboy and a proud owner of a 1967 Mustang convertible, I think the Mach E is blaspheme to Mustangs. What a stupid car to pick to make your EV statement.
 
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RUevolution36 said:
i have nothing against the mach e...just don't call it a mustang.
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The ICE 2022 Mustang:

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The Mach E

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Looks something Elon Musk and Lee Iaococca breeded as an experiment and threw in touches of a KIA. Are those wheels starfish or a gingerbread man?
 
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Knight Shift said:
As a Mustang fanboy and a proud owner of a 1967 Mustang convertible, I think the Mach E is blaspheme to Mustangs. What a stupid car to pick to make your EV statement.
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I think the naming was pretty lame given the Ford Mustang heritage. The sort of decision out-of-touch executives sometimes make against the urging of folks who know better.

But it’s just a name. It wouldn’t prevent me from getting one, if I wanted it. And the vehicle itself seems decently executed.
 
Knight Shift said:
Looks something Elon Musk and Lee Iaococca breeded as an experiment and threw in touches of a KIA. Are those wheels starfish or a gingerbread man?
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I think the looks are fine. And, since you mention Kia, I think the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis styling has been pretty great lately.

It yeah, the wheels are ugly. Almost all EV wheels I’ve seen a Ross all brands, are very ugly to my eyes. It’s like the manufactures are engaged In an ugly wheel contest. I get that some are trying to go for aero efficiency. But they can do that and produce less ugly wheels.

Also, for those of us who enjoy hand washing our own cars, all the multi-spoke wheel designs out there are dumb. You want as few spokes as possible with large gaps between them. Makes cleaning wheels way easier. Also can make the wheels lighter, and reducing unsprung weight (which wheels are) on a car is hugely beneficial to handling.
 
RUevolution36 said:
Not just that...these same fanboys...two or three in particular...also go out of their way to shit on the info about other automakers' efforts in this space. VW sucks, GM won't survive, Ford is stupid, Rivian can't do it, Honda and Toyota are dinosaurs, etc. etc. etc. So they want to deal it, but can't take it when someone says anything that doesn't bow in front of tesla and musk.
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Over the last 5 years legacy auto makers have had declining sales and shrinking profits. They are now faced with the daunting task transforming their business.

CEOs from VW, Ford, and Stalantis have stated publicly that massive changes are necessary to stay competitive. Honda and GM recently announced a partnership for electrification. What does that tell you?

Not shitting. Stating facts. Try reading and learning something instead of trolling.
 
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BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap said:
Over the last 5 years legacy auto makers have had declining sales and shrinking profits. They are now faced with the daunting task transforming their business.

CEOs from VW, Ford, and Stalantis have stated publicly that massive changes are necessary to stay competitive. Honda and GM recently announced a partnership for electrification. What does that tell you?

Not shitting. Stating facts. Try reading and learning something instead of trolling.
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Lol. Settle down child. I read plenty. I've been into cars for much of my life. Writing off VW, Toyota, Honda just because they weren't first is unwise. Thinking that anyone not named Tesla is incapable of producing EVs in meaningful volume is looking at things thru Tesla tinted glasses. Probably ill fitting, poorly made, and highly marketed glasses.
 
fsg2 said:
Nothing wrong with a Ranger, but I'd prefer a Tacoma ...or a Colorado ZR2.
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This will be my 5th Ford truck, 3rd Ranger. My 1st was a 1978 F-150 Ranger. It had a toolbox built into it on the passenger side and I put good-ole wagon wheels on it. Ahhh the memories.
 
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goru1869 said:
My next truck? Ford Ranger.
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Tim Bartz on his show tonight basically said an electric version of the Ranger is coming. I would guess for the 2024 model year since that is when the new design version of the gas Ranger is released.
 
HeavenUniv. said:
Tim Bartz on his show tonight basically said an electric version of the Ranger is coming. I would guess for the 2024 model year since that is when the new design version of the gas Ranger is released.
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EV's are TOOO expensive for me now. I have no desire to get caught up in a 12-year car loan. I have no problem buying gas. AND, I have a 15 year old son who will be needing a car soon. I have to figure his situation out first. Not only that I would rather wait a few years at the very least until the technology improves for EV's.
 
goru1869 said:
EV's are TOOO expensive for me now. I have no desire to get caught up in a 12-year car loan. I have no problem buying gas. AND, I have a 15 year old son who will be needing a car soon. I have to figure his situation out first. Not only that I would rather wait a few years at the very least until the technology improves for EV's.
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It is like Ford made a vehicle just for me with the Maverick. A $20,000 non plug in hybrid pick up truck. No longer have to worry about gas prices with near 50 mpg, but also don’t need to be concerned about charging. Ford followed this home run with another in the F150 Lightning. A gas F150 is about $29,000. The electric version is $40,000 but after the rebates is about $32,500, so pretty much the same price. Ford also has a hybrid version of the F150.
 
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Nice enough looking car, but is it the angle of the photographer or is the car VERY close to the ground ?

www.yahoo.com

Lucid lands 100K EV order from its Saudi investors

Lucid Group's largest shareholder has agreed to buy 100,000 of its electric vehicles over the next decade. The government of Saudi Arabia, which is connected to the kingdom's Public Investment Fund that owns 61% of Lucid, has made an initial commitment to buy 50,000 of Lucid's EV with an option...
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