Ponies took it to themFSU fought hard to keep SMU out of the ACC claiming they would lower the ACC ratings. Now we know the real reason why they didn't want SMU. Good job SMU.
They have a ton of booster $$
NIL has been a Godsend to them
Ponies took it to themFSU fought hard to keep SMU out of the ACC claiming they would lower the ACC ratings. Now we know the real reason why they didn't want SMU. Good job SMU.
i'm not sure what the issues are quite honestlyThat has to be a whole new set of issues. The resentments from paying players who aren’t producing. And then what if other players not getting paid surpass the high roller NIL tickets that don’t pan out? Can’t even begin to imagine the locker room mess.
Reminds me of the kid at Giants games that dressed up like Ben McAdoo, headset, sunglasses, slicked back hair, pornstache, and a Denny's menu for a playcall sheet. Funny for 5 minutes.I have to congratulate FSU shitless coach fan. This is epic entertainment. Sign him up! This should the Noles an automatic SEC entry.
Wow, can't believe he is leaving that top ten brand! 🤣4-star quarterback Tramel Jones becomes the sixth decommit from Florida State's 2025 recruiting class.
Old news buddyWow, can't believe he is leaving that top ten brand! 🤣
Old news, you mean false claim. Never top ten.Old news buddy
Productive Boosters call last night with Alford & Ponder - call me, I’ll give you a recap
Again, you’re showing your lack of all things college football knowledge outside of Piscataway, and even there, it’s pretty limitedOld news, you mean false claim. Never top ten.
I don't need to call you. You can post your fabrications on here so all of us can see and laugh at!
call me
I don't need to call you
This year, absolutely, and even then it would be a stretchHeard Florida State is dropping to 1-AA....Much better chance to make playoffs
Spank, it’s so weird that Bus can’t keep FSU’s name out of his mouth
Can't call him as I don't have his number anyway 🤣
He’s a weird guyThat dude gets something in his head and he can't get it out.
Like those folks still crying about the Tagliabue comment 14 years and 2 conferences ago?That dude gets something in his head and he can't get it out.
That guy has to be cold!
It was one comment by me but you keep that thread going.Like those folks still crying about the Tagliabue comment 14 years and 2 conferences ago?
Been thinking about this... the SMU angle.Ponies took it to them
They have a ton of booster $$
NIL has been a Godsend to them
Don't pat yourself on the back. There are many others in that thread that are still furious about nothing. My comment wasn't about you.It was one comment by me but you keep that thread going.
SMU was doing pay for play before it was legal. That infrastructure is still there.Ponies took it to them
They have a ton of booster $$
NIL has been a Godsend to them
Funny part is Bus has some if the crazier views on this boardIt was one comment by me but you keep that thread going.
They were the OG’sSMU was doing pay for play before it was legal. That infrastructure is still there.
I would do the exact same thing if I that kind of moneyBeen thinking about this... the SMU angle.
Imagine you were a well-monied booster who ultimately was responsible for the NCAA Death Sentence that relegated SMU football to the trash heap for decades.
Then, suddenly, what you had done is now perfectly legal and you can help SMU return to the top ranks of college football.
You cared about football.
You had plenty of money.
Perhaps you are dead or dying and your heirs can erase your crimes against SMU football in your memory.
IRRC, its old oil money. JR Ewing kinda stuff (talk about decades and decades old.. okay "Landman" is a new Paramount+ show along the same lines. Black gold, Texas tea.. SMU football.
Only way Schiano ever wins a football championship is if his team is the only one competing. And even then it might not even be a lock without a glorious Fieldhouse and golden 75 foot GS statue in front of it to woo recruits. I can only imagine Fieldhouse Al’s excuses for Schiano not winning a one team league.I would do the exact same thing if I that kind of money
I would literally fund both Rutgers and FSU to the fullest extent possible in order to win championships
And I think multiple people, if not most on this board, would do the exact same thing if they had that amount of money
Before NIL, we had no shot of ever competing or being consistently elite - With NIL now, anything is possibleOnly way Schiano ever wins a football championship is if his team is the only one competing. And even then it might not even be a lock without a glorious Fieldhouse and golden 75 foot GS statue in front of it to woo recruits. I can only imagine Fieldhouse Al’s excuses for Schiano not winning a one team league.
Disagree. NIL and the changes that stemmed from it.. easy transfers.. extra covid year.. roster rules.. etc.. all favored the elite monied programs.Before NIL, we had no shot of ever competing or being consistently elite - With NIL now, anything is possible
Gun to my head, do I think af get there? No
Do I think Schiano is the answer? No
But at least now there’s hope
Pre NIL, we had none
The elites were already paying the kidsDisagree. NIL and the changes that stemmed from it.. easy transfers.. extra covid year.. roster rules.. etc.. all favored the elite monied programs.
Before NIL.. with the 85 schollie limit and no more than 25 per year, other programs proved they could rise and compete. And now it is the wild wild west again.. just like it was when the elite programs became elite programs.
It is anti-competition... it is anti-parity.
Now.. it could be said that if we could spend as much or more than the elites.. then we might become one.. with enough winning over time. But we, and all the non-elites, have a HUGE disadvantage.
We have to convince new people to invest in Rutgers sports.
We'd have to win off those investments.. make it worth their while. There are only so many such sources of funds for such endeavors. If investing in Rutgers doesn't immediately pay off.. cross that funding source off the list forever.
The elite programs don't have that issue. They can sustain down years and even demand MORE money in order to recover from bad times.
We'd have to become well-funded AND spend it wisely... and, at best, we'd be 50-50 to beat the elites.
I suppose the most interesting indication that I may be wrong is Nick Saban's retirement. Was it not wanting to deal with NIL? of the kids that NIL attracts? Or is it that Alabama cannot compete with money with. say. Georgia or LSU or maybe even Auburn. Did Saban see the writing on the wall? It was probably just time to retire.
Been thinking about this... the SMU angle.
Imagine you were a well-monied booster who ultimately was responsible for the NCAA Death Sentence that relegated SMU football to the trash heap for decades.
Then, suddenly, what you had done is now perfectly legal and you can help SMU return to the top ranks of college football.
You cared about football.
You had plenty of money.
Perhaps you are dead or dying and your heirs can erase your crimes against SMU football in your memory.
IRRC, its old oil money. JR Ewing kinda stuff (talk about decades and decades old.. okay "Landman" is a new Paramount+ show along the same lines. Black gold, Texas tea.. SMU football.
They will be a force, no doubt about thatLOL!!!!
I believe SMU raised $160 million this year from multiple donors who were overjoyed with their admission to the ACC.
Move over FSU and Clemson you have a money ball power house in the conference to contend with.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
FSU fought hard to keep SMU out of the ACC claiming they would lower the ACC ratings. Now we know the real reason why they didn't want SMU. Good job SMU.
And FSU in Clemson fans feel negative towards the ACC as they’ve been carrying the league for the better part of three decades, and have little to show for it in terms of a monetary contract as well as other teams stepping up their performanceExactely
I think many ACC fans are now negative toward FSU, Clemson and North Carolina is because they opposed the admission of Stanford, Cal and SMU which helped solidify the ACC Conference going forward. Why hurt the conference.
I no longer car if they leave the ACC.
Not sure the B1G would be interested in FSU (non AAU) at this point but if they were admitted I think they would be reduced to a 2nd tier program competing in the B1G.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
And FSU in Clemson fans feel negative towards the ACC as they’ve been carrying the league for the better part of three decades, and have little to show for it in terms of a monetary contract as well as other teams stepping up their performance
You should care if fsu amc Clemson.leave the ACC because it’ll be relegated to a Sunbelt level conference
In regard to the pecking order of the big, it goes as follows
Tier 1 - Buckeye, Michigan
Tier 2 - Nitts, USC, Oregon
If USC got Elite again, that would catapult them into the tier 1 category
If Notre Dame joins, they would obviously be in tier one
FSU would fall into the tier 2 category, which isn’t a bad place to bebeing that a tier ones consist of Blue Bloods
They won them no thanks to the ACCFSU and Clemson got to WIN National Championships in the ACC which they Won't be able to do in the B1G or SEC going forward.
Now I believe that the B1G and SEC no longer have have a great interest in having them join now.
What I predict is that FSU, now not getting that warm fuzzy feeling from those other Conferences will now actively seek to remain in the ACC under some compromise agreement.
Also remember FSU did sign the GOR agreement and I'm sure they had lawyers review the details before signing.
See how it plays out going forward.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!