OT: Idaho dropping down from FBS to FCS
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I'm surprised there hasn't been more of this - D1 football is expensive. Good for them they will return to the Big Sky with our old friend Stefan Djordjevic at Cal Poly.
Ampipe baby! Screw those rich snobs over at Walnut Heights. Nickerson should have had Rifleman fall on the ball, dumbest coaching move I've ever seen.
I believe it is located in North Dakota.
Idaho played in a small dome, they really was a propped up FCS program playing in FBS. With the death of the WAC, there just didn't really fit in with any other FBS conference.
I would expect a few more programs to drop to FCS at some point.
I am thinking of New Mexico State and Umass might be next. I am not sure how much longer they can stay at FBS.
I would expect a few more programs to drop to FCS at some point.
I am thinking of New Mexico State and Umass might be next. I am not sure how much longer they can stay at FBS.
Its the only way an SEC team would schedule them in November so they could go to a warm climate.
Due to TV money it's cheaper to run a 1A program than a 1AA one.
Especially when their closest conference mate is New Mexico State. Moscow, Idaho to Las Cruces, New Mexico is a 1,461 mile drive (24.25 hours). Their 2nd closest conference mate is Texas State, which is only a 2,150 mile drive. Yeah, I know, they aren't DRIVING to these games.
I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind dropping FBS to FCS. They'll still bleed tons of money. They either need to drop to D2 or drop football altogether.
I think in the next 5-10 years you will see much more of this.
Dropping 22 Scholarships is an enormous money saver and all of their other programs are already at that level. It is not like they are making a great deal of money on the TV Contract from the SunBelt.
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They had no conference in FBS, they have the BIG Sky in the FCS, with a lot of regional teams.
Look it's a wet and muddy ball and Salvucci's been out all night robbing people. He would have fit right in with last year's crowd, I'm surprised Flood didn't offer him. No way you hand it off to him, it's all on Nickerson.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
That coaching decision by Nickerson changed a lot of peoples live. Salvucci would have stayed clean, improved his grades and gotten an academic scholarship to college. Stef would not have been blackballed and ended up playing at BC. Riley would not have drank to forget the game and got his girl pregnant - he would have ended up at USC and turned pro. They would not have broken the coffee table calling the 6-2 stack monster. Stef's father would not have punched that guy in the face. And, Nickerson would have ended up as DC at Penn State.
Well they did have a place in the Sun Belt until recently when they and New Mexico State were booted. And the WAC before that.
I full expect more of this; too many team in the FCS that simply aren't/can't draw the requisite home attendance, yearly, and have to fudge #'s in year 3 in order not to be relegated (IIRC if you draw below 15k/game average, for 3 consecutive years, you can be moved down...I remember going through the attendance figures a couple of years ago and it was shocking how many schools (like 7 or 8) #'s "jumped" in the 3rd year, to just over 15K, after drawing around 9/10K per game for 2 seasons). Quite a few of these schools that have moved up, after the initial 1/1aa split, just aren't cutting it at this level and probably never can or will.
Not really. Boise, the city, and the school supports the program. Boise had the Fluttie Effect, catching lighting in a bottle with hiring Koetter, then Hawkins, then Peterson. Those guys basically brought in the spread/Run N' Shoot to college football and was able to beat the big boys.
We're now seeing them come back down to earth. If your state doesn't have deep talent you're toast. Nebraska is a big boy feeling this.
Unv of Idaho had and has no shot. They'll end up dropping football. The days of a concrete floor, steal lockers - locker room with a grass field and wood stands, and playing some old fashion football are over.
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Why would they "drop" football altogether? I think they'll be fine at the FCS level to be honest.
Maybe not them specifically, but you will see Div I programs drop all together. Sports athletics is about to bust.
Not saying they can't be competitive at the FCS level, but don't all FCS teams lose money? If they're dropping from FBS to FCS due to money, they might lose a tiny bit less, but they'll still be losing.
Idaho belongs in FCS. They will draw better crowds against the Montanas & Dakotas than the crappy SunBelt teams.
On the other hand, I think the northeastern CAA schools should upgrade to FBS & add Temple, UConn, UMass & Buffalo. The cost of travel for them would be a lot less, and they can get TV money & body bag games against the SEC/ACC/B10 to make ends meet.
On the other hand, I think the northeastern CAA schools should upgrade to FBS & add Temple, UConn, UMass & Buffalo. The cost of travel for them would be a lot less, and they can get TV money & body bag games against the SEC/ACC/B10 to make ends meet.
For one they drop 22 scholarships. Secondly they will play in the Big sky conference significantly cutting down on travel costs from playing in the sunbelt. Also staff pay can be reduced. Recruiting costs will drop. They also probably will gain revenue in the form of ticket sales now that they will actually be successful. In general they will spend less because at that level you don't have the same expectations as they do for things like facilities, travel, staffing, salaries, ect.
You need a conference to be stable. At one point, I think Idaho made a decision to leave a conference and the new conference folded. So some of it is on the administration.
Cool stadium, though.
Agree Part 1
Disagree Part 2. Most of those schools draw flies and that won't draw anymore playing one a other moving up a level. Delaware is NOT moving up they've said it a million times. Nova? Not happening. JMU is the only school that can, should, and likely will move up. Damn 500-piece band and all!
I can see a lot of schools dropping many or all of sports as the cost of education comes into the spotlight. The fact that in many of cases students subsidize the costs of sports, it will be one of the first things to go. The administration will protect their jobs at all costs.
Agreed. UNH, Albany, Maine, RI, Stony Brook, Central CONN, Delaware, Towson......
2014 attendance figures (per game):
Albany - 5,341
Central Conn - 3,078
(Delaware - doesn't matter they're not moving up)
Maine - 5,657
Rhode Island - 5,317
Stony Brook - 7,000
UNH - 8,745
Towson - 7.288
...yeah, let's get these teams up to FBS level lol!!!
Agreed. These teams are fine at FCS level and will not move to FBS. Too much capital investment required and they are all from states that will not shell out the money needed at this point. Rutgers at least had the timing right to move up.
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