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OT:LET'S GO METS

With a hit and run you're just looking for a grounder to the right side. Doesn't have to be scorched.
Of course. But he still needs to make contact and if he fails, Flores is a dead duck. It would have made much more sense to H&R with Wright/Murphy (better speed/better contact hitter).
 
How does Wright continue to bat at the top of the order? Flores and TD are having excellent months, yet their stuck at the bottom of the order most games.

He continues to play favorites with the vets, which have cost us games recently.
Actually that's one thing I give Collins credit for. He most often seems to go left right left right all the way down the lineup. Makes it harder on the opposing manager to manuever his bullpen late in games. And I don't think there's a better candidate to bat behind Grandy. Cespedes has done it in some games but I'd much rather have him in a run producing spot in the order.
 
Actually that's one thing I give Collins credit for. He most often seems to go left right left right all the way down the lineup. Makes it harder on the opposing manager to manuever his bullpen late in games. And I don't think there's a better candidate to bat behind Grandy. Cespedes has done it in some games but I'd much rather have him in a run producing spot in the order.
That strategy made sense before the rosters expanded. TC actually got caught with his pants down in game 2 of the Marlins series, where he made a switch (To get r/l setup) and seemingly forgot that the Marlins had several lefties in their bullpen.
 
That strategy made sense before the rosters expanded. TC actually got caught with his pants down in game 2 of the Marlins series, where he made a switch and seemingly forgot that the Marlins had several lefties in their bullpen.
Well use em then. They can go one batter per pitcher if they want. You're not gonna be able to keep bringing effective relievers out there for long. I like the L-R-L-R
 
Well use em then. They can go one batter per pitcher if they want. You're not gonna be able to keep bringing effective relievers out there for long. I like the L-R-L-R
Ok. Even if I were to agree, how does this explain batting Wright at the top of the order and TD/Flores, both also righties, at the bottom. Right now they're better hitters than David.
 
Ok. Even if I were to agree, how does this explain batting Wright at the top of the order and TD/Flores, both also righties, at the bottom. Right now they're better hitters than David.
Because managers like to have guys who are line to line hitters in the 2 spot and Wright goes the other way very well. d'Arnaud is a dead pull hitter as is Flores for the most part. And as hot as Wilmer has been of late he's still a 260-265 hitter. And his pop plays better further down the lineup. What I'm interested in seeing is how they play it when Duda returns tomorrow. I'm thinking Grandy, Wright, Murphy, Cespedes, Duda, d'Arnaud, Conforto, Flores or Tejada and then the pitcher. That's a good lineup right there.
 
Here we go. Robles in the 7th, Reed in the 8th, then Familia. Am I wrong to be nervous?

Not just you. I'm nervous with anyone in the Mets bullpen even Familia. Who knows how he will handle pennant race or playoff pressure.
 
Because managers like to have guys who are line to line hitters in the 2 spot and Wright goes the other way very well. d'Arnaud is a dead pull hitter as is Flores for the most part. And as hot as Wilmer has been of late he's still a 260-265 hitter. And his pop plays better further down the lineup. What I'm interested in seeing is how they play it when Duda returns tomorrow. I'm thinking Grandy, Wright, Murphy, Cespedes, Duda, d'Arnaud, Conforto, Flores or Tejada and then the pitcher. That's a good lineup right there.
The David Wright your talking about hasn't played for the Mets in two years. He doesn't put the ball in play often enough to expect an opposite field hit. Give me guys who are more likely to make contact, rather than a guy who will routinely chase pitches in the dirt.
 
Look man we could go back and forth all day. So I say we just agree to disagree. I'm good with the lineup today and the 8 runs it's produced. I'll be even better with the one tomorrow.
 
Great win. Now it's up to Matt Harvey to make everyone forget about the last week.
 
WP-Alvarez 1-0. Congrats rookie. Biggest win of the season to date. High-flying Nats coming back home with momentum on their side and a pitching matchup that favors them on paper and we bring em right back down.
 
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It's particularly impressive to do it in comeback fashion. That stadium was rocking after Ramos hit the grand slam. It was critical to get at least one in this series. If we can get one of the next two and get out of town up five, things will be looking very good again.
 
I can sleep pleasantly tonight...:)..No head-scratchers by Collins...and win with your best guys....hopefully Alvarez can solidify the lefty reliever spot.....would love for him to be the 2nd coming of Pedro Feliciano...one of the most unheralded Mets in the modern era.....now let's sweep or at least split the next 2 games.....will be interesting to see how Harvey pitches....Niese is a MAJOR concern down the stretch and hopefully all is well with Matz' blister.....but the 2 things that continue to amaze me about this team are its perseverance - after tough losses and throughout games......the team could have packed it in after the 4th inning.....
 
You only have two Harvery starts to get to that hyped 180 IP anyway, so I would say he goes as long as he is effective tomorrow.
 
Huge win. Cespedes reminds me of Carlos Beltran's run with the Astros right before free agency. If he keeps this up his probably looking at around $150-175MM in his next deal. How old is he? If still in his 20's it could be more.
 
WP-Alvarez 1-0. Congrats rookie. Biggest win of the season to date. High-flying Nats coming back home with momentum on their side and a pitching matchup that favors them on paper and we bring em right back down.

His strikeout of Bryce F'n Harper changed the game. That took HUGE, MAJOR ONIONS to do that vs his first MLB hitter. Lets hope that continues.

BTW, that game was INTENSE AS HELL!!!!! Great win and let's hope THAT continues as well!!!
 
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I was there. Honestly, that first inning gave me a sinking feeling - letting Scherzer off the hook there is the kind of thing that you really just can't do. And Niese was a disaster (not to mention that Collins pulled him too late).

But Williams still seems to be managing out of some kind of paint by numbers book. He had two chances to pinch hit for a struggling Scherzer in the 5th with runners at 2nd and 3rd thanks to the Torres injury, but didn't have anyone up in the bullpen so didn't have that option. And in the 7th, he didn't seem to be thinking about the actual match ups or situation, but just that he needed to do lefty-right-lefty-righty - like he'd get extra credit for using up his bullpen. (And this is not even to mention that Williams played the infield in with one out in the first inning - I mean, really.)

Collins had his moments, too - leaving Niese in too long and putting someone making his first ML appearance of the year up against Harper (which obviously worked), but Williams seems to have learned nothing at all in close to 2 years of managing.

The next 2 pitching match ups seem better for the Mets, but we'll see.
 
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So now according to tweets from different writers, Alderson said that there will be a 60 pitch count for Harvey in the playoffs. Might as well put him in the pen for the playoffs if that's the case. Oh I forgot, Boras and Harvey don't want to be in the pen. What else can happen.

http://teamstre.am/1KvJpOy
Here's the latest on Harvey on Bleacher Report.
 
So now according to tweets from different writers, Alderson said that there will be a 60 pitch count for Harvey in the playoffs. Might as well put him in the pen for the playoffs if that's the case. Oh I forgot, Boras and Harvey don't want to be in the pen. What else can happen.

http://teamstre.am/1KvJpOy
Here's the latest on Harvey on Bleacher Report.
No that's what USA today said. Alderson said nothing has decided yet for a playoffs plan yet.
 
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I know he's anti-Rutgers. But Francessa said that those rumours about the 60 pitch counts were false. I'll take anything I can get right about now, lol.

But HOLY CRAP about that Cespedes development. Hope that's a sign or just a way to get more money out of this deal. Like I said, I'll take anything I can get right about now. I just hope that the Mets somehow sign cespedes. This would probably be this decade's Piazza signing.
 
I know he's anti-Rutgers. But Francessa said that those rumours about the 60 pitch counts were false. I'll take anything I can get right about now, lol.

But HOLY CRAP about that Cespedes development. Hope that's a sign or just a way to get more money out of this deal. Like I said, I'll take anything I can get right about now. I just hope that the Mets somehow sign cespedes. This would probably be this decade's Piazza signing.
He's playing so well that it might get past the point where it would make sense to sign him, even if we're looking at the Mets as an actual big market team who spends (doubtful). But it is much better to have that come down to an actual decision vs what was in place previously.
 
Everything the naysayers said about Cespedes has not been demonstrated. Cespedes looks like he his really into playing for the team, plays the outfield really well, and I have not seen him dog it. That said, his stats are so off the charts, his play alone may drive his price tag well past what the Mets will spend. It has been fun to have him.
 
He fought against the 6 man rotation, was upset when he was pulled early in games, and tried to get the Mets to pitch him last season. Now he's essentially pulling himself out of the playoffs.

I agree with the others to trade him after this season. There is no way the locker room will have any respect for him nor will most Met fans. Let him go to another team where he expects to be paid for a whole season while only giving you part of one.

I read that Ken Rosenthal reported that 3 separate GMs stated that Dr. Andrews only gives aspirational numbers and never mentions a hard cap.

Matt brought a sense of winning and pride back to the organization. Today, I'm absolutely embarrassed for him and feel terrible for the guys in that dug out.

This will follow him his entire career, like it does Strasburg.

No need to trade him, since that would be totally knee-jerk. He'll win some big games down the stretch and all will be forgiven. I do not blame him one bit for his intent, it was just the way he put it I think that offended. Harvey's making $500K per year, with the chance to make $20M per year if he stays healthy for another couple of years. It's his livelihood. If he blows out his arm, Mets fans just remorse about what could have been for a couple of days, but then root for the other aces and life goes on; for Harvey, it would be all over.
 
I think the only thing keeping Cespedes from being right in the middle of the MVP discussion has to be the fact that he was traded at the deadline. He's definitely having an MVP type of year. A lot of the Mets big acquisitions have fizzled in the glare of the NY spotlight. But he's a player who has actually thrived in it.
 
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