It's not your money anymore. You're dead. The people collecting it can pay taxes on it or refuse to accept it. Their choice.
OT: Looks like gas is going up 23 cents a gallon in NJ
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It's not your money anymore. You're dead. The people collecting it can pay taxes on it or refuse to accept it. Their choice.
my goal when i die is to have $1 left. My kids can fend for themselves.
[laughing] Luckily I don't have nieces or nephews to dote on yet. But seriously though, should I additionally self-tax myself for the extravagant S4 that I recently purchased for my own extravagant use and already paid sales tax on, despite my apparent lack of a trust fund?
That goes for both parties, it almost doesn't matter who you vote for, Garbage in and garbage out.
They all only look out for themselves (and $pecial intere$t Group$) and not the people in this state. The corruption in New Jersey is off the charts.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...grity-corruption-grades-interactive/75033060/
Well, since that's an imaginary gift, you wouldn't have to pay any tax. :p
(December to Remember is Lexus)
Well, I guess that was a bunch of advertising money wasted.
That only has the intended result of people opting for more environmentally friendly modes of transportation if public transit is affordable and accessible. NJ Transit keeps jacking up their fares and there are a lot of places in NJ where mass transit is much less convenient than driving. Until those issues are addressed, increasing the gas tax will only hurt.
With support from Republican Chris Christie. Once again the justification of continuing to vote for Democrats or Republicans because they aren't as bad as the other results in negative consequences and more money out of our pockets.
Haha, so true. I remember so many commercials vividly but have no idea what the product was.
Democrats over the last 60 years have been in control of NJ's legislature and Senate for the vast majority of the time. They have had the power of the purse of government for a long long time. Republicans for the most part support lower taxes and small government. Maybe if Republicans had majority control for awhile then maybe things would change.
Okay. I'm philosophically aligned with giving incentives for good behavior. So I'd be okay with doing that. I think the incentives would have to be pretty substantial to have a significant impact, but that seems doable.
So that takes care of the fossil fuel consumption half of the gas tax's intent. Given that realized incentives means even lower state revenues, how do we achieve the second half of the tax's intent; funding transportation infrastructure costs?
For at least a decade now conservative economist Greg Mankiw has been actively promoting the idea of a higher federal gas tax. There's even a group called the Pigou Club consisting of some well-known economists & policy experts.
Link: The Pigou Club
Remember, your kids are going to be your care giver when you get old. You have to start being nice to them.
that's not the point. taxes have already been paid several times over. the estate tax is a punitive tax that discourages saving and helping the next generation be better off than their predecessors. please explain why it is "fair" to tax dollars that have already been taxed?
sad to say...that's why poor and middle class people stay poor or middle class. wealthy people figure out how to pass on generational wealth with minimal tax consequence to the next generation.
Republicans do not believe in smaller government.
LOL
Christie expanded the size of government time and again. Nevermind Whitman. Nevermind the national party. Nevermind the current candidate for President.
I'm sure people in Fort Lee, the Sandy victims, NJT and PATH riders, among others, can tell you how Christie's small government worked for them.
Republicans (not Conservatives...but Republicans) believe in the same size government, if not larger. The only difference b/w the GOP and the Dem party is on where to spend the money they forcibly take from our pockets.
What ?
Take a look at the new "local" lanes of Route 18 North in New Brunswick . Only a couple of years old and the road is already falling apart. Same with the Entrance Ramps from Milltown Road to Rte. 1 North. A couple of years old and the road is totally crumbling.
Typical NJ Highway Project scams. Shoddy work , Union bribes ,poor asphalt base, etc.
In that case, good thing we elected a Republican governor so he can oppose gas tax increases and higher tolls.......[eyeroll]
Also I wouldn't consider a government that tells you who you can marry and what drugs you're allowed to take while spending more on military than the next seven countries combined to be a "small government," but that is what Republicans support.
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My parents and my siblings save so their kids can have a better life. That is additional cushion if something go wrong. My parents are quite old and I asked a couple of questions recently about bypassing this tax.
with the right estate planning and setting up certain kinds of trusts, the effect of the tax can be minimized. that, and leaving the state.
and I agree...it's not "rich people" who are being penalized. it's people like my immigrant parents who worked from nothing and saved with slave-ish discipline to be able to provide my sister and i with a better life. they are by no means rich...but they and i will be affected by this outdated tax.
The estate tax is the tax that needed to be changed. The fact that Christie new this and yet did nothing about this is insane.
People will leave the state because our estate tax exemption is the second lowest in the nation.
People will not move to the state because the sales tax was lowered from 7-6 %.
How could the Republicans let this pass?
Raise the gas tax $.23 while lowering the sales tax. Wait two years and the Democrats will raise this sales tax back to 7%. Lose, lose, lose for the taxpayer. The business community must be sick.
People will leave the state because our estate tax exemption is the second lowest in the nation.
People will not move to the state because the sales tax was lowered from 7-6 %.
How could the Republicans let this pass?
Raise the gas tax $.23 while lowering the sales tax. Wait two years and the Democrats will raise this sales tax back to 7%. Lose, lose, lose for the taxpayer. The business community must be sick.
There is so much whiny ass titty baby in this thread. It's hilarious. Did it escape your notice that children and grandchildren are exempt. We're talking about trust fund brat nieces and nephews here.
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We pay ridiculous tolls for our primary roads (GSParkway, NJTP, ACExpressway)
and even more ridiculous tolls to cross into New York. We pay tolls to cross into Philadelphia.
How many billions do those tolls generate?
Yet the state needs to significantly raise the gas tax.
How do other states manage?
Many states have NO toll roads.
and even more ridiculous tolls to cross into New York. We pay tolls to cross into Philadelphia.
How many billions do those tolls generate?
Yet the state needs to significantly raise the gas tax.
How do other states manage?
Many states have NO toll roads.
Wait till the rich people have to withdraw their 401k at 70 years old. There are a lot of people that will have at least 2-4 millions in the account after being in there accumulating capital gains and dividends 15 years after retirement. $200,000 additional income each year for the next 20 years on top of their pension and social security.
No there is a inheritance tax that kids are exempt but it applies to nieces and nephew. In addition, there is an estate tax which is another 15%. There's two NJ taxes and hope you don't have more than $5 million then the Federal Tax applies.
apparently he knows nothing about what he speaks of. us adults can continue the conversation without him.
Yes but we were specifically talking about inheritance. The estate has a minimum threshold ofn $675,000 so it's not like it's crippling the scions of the working class. For the record I'd be fine with raising the threshold.
Hahaha: idiot. Go up the thread where I explained quite clearly estate vs. iheritance. I was the first person in the thread to mention the min threshold for estate and the exemptions for inheritance.
Apparently you can't read. Feel free to leave to discussion to the literate.
Yes the Port Authority is a huge weight on taxpayers.
Good thing we have a Republican governor. I can only imagine he has cracked down on their largesse, not used it for patronage and scheming!
There are two death taxes in NJ: Children and grandchildren are exempt from the inheritance tax. But the estate is still subject to the estate tax.
the state can save alot of money but stop wasting money planting grass and planting trees and shrubs that constantly die during the year, how much is wasted on labor and supplies for these projects...also that stupid red bumpy thing AT EVERY FRICKING INTERSECTION in the state...wasted money to help a few blind people in a wheelchair?
If DOT doesn't do that, I believe they risk losing federal funding. The trees and bushes they plant are also to replace the ones they cut down elsewhere or for water drainage mitigation. Part of the DEP requirements.
here is the problem....in Hillsborough/Montgomery there are dead trees and bushes all over, they sometimes replace not always but usually die again, they did all planting and landscaping on a bypass project that they have no money for. In the end its a waste of money because after everything is planted it is basically forgotten forever and looks like crap
Let's get rid of those pesky pedestrian crossing signs, too. How many people really walk these days and should they really be allowed to cross the street?
Handicap ramps and parking spaces? How much money in materials and paint are we wasting? For a handful of folks in wheelchairs? Let them make their own municipalities and pay for that crap!
Handicap ramps and parking spaces? How much money in materials and paint are we wasting? For a handful of folks in wheelchairs? Let them make their own municipalities and pay for that crap!
Does anyone actually believe that the gas tax money is going to the roads? Haha.
The same people who passed the gas tax are putting forth a constitutional amendment that all pw pension payments must be made before any other state spending. The road system won't see one cent of the gas tax money. That sales tax reduction is never going to happen either. It's the Hudson county political machine at work.
The same people who passed the gas tax are putting forth a constitutional amendment that all pw pension payments must be made before any other state spending. The road system won't see one cent of the gas tax money. That sales tax reduction is never going to happen either. It's the Hudson county political machine at work.
If you don't want to pay gas tax, there is very simple solution: Buy a Tesla*
* until NJ and federal government starts instituting mileage taxes
* until NJ and federal government starts instituting mileage taxes
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