OT: Nebraska’s New Football Fieldhouse
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Glad to see The Corn gave us props in this fly thru - RU game was on one of the screens.
Noticed that Rutgers clip too. Strange place for a screen. Appears to be Rutgers-Howard with Rutgers leading 17-7.
Amazing.
$75 million in Nebraska - $225 million in NJ.
$75 million in Nebraska - $225 million in NJ.
Most NFL teams don’t have a facility like that. That being said Nebraska is Nebraska’s NFL team.
GO RU
GO RU
Was gonna say....in new Jersey that's probably a half a billion dollar project after all is said and done.. because you know there will be delays and new found expenses...lol what does the current weight room look like? I know the basketball facility is top notch..
Thought about it and if the state can give 1 billion to help with the American dream mall in the meadowlands they can help RU out with at least 100 million for a field house lol...
I heard they originally wanted to give the naming rights to Corn Pop but he was one bad dude and refused
For anyone who has been in the Hale Center in the last couple of years, Rutgers already has all of the stuff shown beyond the 0:19 mark. The fieldhouse building is not all THAT impressive. Sure, their weight room is larger and there is more open space. The overall building is a fairly simple steel building, and the packages for the shells of those buildings are not that bad.
Hmm doesn't look too bad. But I'm guessing from the video and this being NJ that it's not a big space at all, probably doesn't have all the bells and whistles that the Nebraska facility has..but definitely everything you need to build and maintain elite athletes. But I can see the need to keep up with the other teams in conference as I'm sure Ohio State, Penn State Michigan have something similar to what Nebraska has; probably USC, Oregon and Washington too... Cheaper construction in those places though (except USC) and less people complain when you spend on football in those parts... unfortunately I believe that at least for the near future a new field house would have to preceded by a winning season so politicians can attach themselves to a winner and want to give Rutgers money...not 7 wins either, new years bowl or playoffs..
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Yes, and one other thing in line with my post. If they could find a way to fit the fieldhouse in the Brown lot next to the Hale Center and the outdoor practice fields, the flow from the Hale Center weight room, medical and rehab facility to the fieldhouse to the outdoor practice fields would flow nicely and end with the outdoor practice fields. Putting the fieldhouse in the Yellow lot breaks up that flow and places it further from the Hale Center, and wastes a good parking lot (yes, being territorial about the Yellow Lot), but considering Nebraska's plan being a compact plan that flows too. But what do I know, they seem hell bent on building it on the Yellow Lot.
I (along with @RUScrew85, @PatrickRU92 , @RutgersRaRa, and a dozen others) had the great opportunity to tour the Nebraska facilities, weight room, indoor practice facility & get out onto the field, when we went out there the first time, courtesy of @huskersalways . The only place we weren't allowed was their locker room.
Their facilities blew RU out of the water.
They also have a long history and tradition of winning and a passionate and supportive fanbase that continually sells out an 85,000 seat stadium, even during a 7 year stretch of losing through 2023, plus a press that does not look for opportunities to throw their athletics department under the bus at every turn. Land is more plentiful and cheaper, and building costs are cheaper in Nebraska. I don't know why anyone would expect Rutgers' facilities to come close to Nebraska's, but my point still stands. Ours are not as shiny and expansive, and we don't have a fieldhouse, but we get what we get and we don't get upset at the shiny toys of schools like Nebraska, or we pony up a lot more money to the R Fund.
But they are in Nebraska. No pork roll and other great stuff Jersey has. I'll take Rutgers and New Jersey every day of the week.
I was able to tour both the NYG and NYJets facilities in the last 5 years. This proposed facility destroys both of those NFL facilities.
That's to pay for the guy standing around and holding the shovel....and for the three guys standing next to the guy holding the shovel and watching him.
But they are in Nebraska. No pork roll and other great stuff Jersey has. I'll take Rutgers and New Jersey every day of the week.
they have Runzas. mmmmmmmmmm (make sure you have one if you get there this year)
They have really, really nice people. Really nice people. Everywhere.
But they don't have the shore. and that's the deal breaker for me
And 100 guys to staff the clear construction bag entrance and to inspect the shovels to make sure they are not weapons. And the water truck, because water bottles not allowed in a football facility. 😂
Yes, our observation is that people are "nicer" in other parts of the country, but in NJ people are "real" and let you know how they feel. There is no guess work. In some parts of the country, did not like what we called the "fake nice" of some. In Jersey, we know where we stand.
Was watching a video/podcast of a musician who moved from NJ to Nashville, and he told a story that for the first year, the people in his circle thought he was a dick, and when he explained this is how we are in NJ, they "got it."
Will try the Runzas. Still recovering from the 20 lbs of cheese curds I consumed in Wisconsin.
Tony soprano would have gotten some type of piece of this deal. (The fictional character not gandolfini (rip) he would have provided the porta potties or something for the low price 5 million...the thing is in NJ/ny too many sharks that find ways to get some of any deal with for sure capital coming in from the state or local governments..
I was in the new facility some while it was being built and right after completion. While the video shows the majority of it it doesn’t have a good depiction of a lot of it. A huge amount of it it for recovery from injuries or just the daily grind. Pools and other apparatus to aide in that. They also didn’t show the academic stuff very well which is for all sports to use. The training table area is the best part of it. It also is for all sports and makes a Las Vegas casino buffet look like a high school cafeteria. Haha it is 320,000sq ft in total I believe and should(better) last for a very long time. It was $360mil to do I believe. One of the perks for track and field out of it is the new facility is where their outdoor track was. They got 100% new facilities by the soccer stadium and the VB venue. It’s beside their indoor facility so it’s much more user friendly for them.
We envy Nebraska. But we will never be Nebraska or anyone else. We can aspire. But we live in the most densely populated, one of the most expensive states in the nation, with very little land/space. We lucked our way (through some very good positioning and hard work) into the B1G only 10 years ago. It is going to take Rutgers a long time to "catch up" to our conference mates, and we may never catch up. Our athletics department for years into the early 2000's was run worse than a high school athletics department.
We just came into our full share this year (or maybe next). Rome was not built in a day. We will get there, but we will still be Jersey, and I'm good with that.
Helluva drone video... nice job slowly down enough on turns so viewers don't get nauseous
Fun fact, NFL facilities typically are complete crap compared to these colleges. Through my job I spent a few days with a mega-famous NFL player (former B1G player) who told me the NFL facilities are garbage and he prefers to train at college facilities at whatever city he may be in at the time. He said he'd spent the morning at USC on one particularly day I was working with him.
It's pretty indicative of the insane arms race in college sports. Once the sport becomes your job and you work for a 'for-profit' entity like an NFL team, cost cutting and getting the work done with the resources provided becomes a fact of life.
I give you the NIU football practice facility, completed in 2017.
NIU's AD is Sean Frazier, who was passed over in favor of the wonderful Julie Herman by the ("we did it!") crew. Sean has had a wonderful track record raising funds and improving facilities at NIU, who beat Notre Dame this year in football.
Oh look, RIGHT next to the stadium--what a concept.
NIU's AD is Sean Frazier, who was passed over in favor of the wonderful Julie Herman by the ("we did it!") crew. Sean has had a wonderful track record raising funds and improving facilities at NIU, who beat Notre Dame this year in football.
Oh look, RIGHT next to the stadium--what a concept.
All that for a 45-71 football team the last decade. If they make a resurgence, it won't be because of a fieldhouse. Coaching and NIL is all you need.
It's a combo of things
Not either/or
You need the shiny new toys
And the NIL
In addition to elite coaching and 4/5 star athletes
Get those, and sky's the limit
Issue is getting all 3 at once, and maintaining them
A kid is not going to pass up $50k more and good coaching just because someone else has gold plated weights.
You're not going to get donors to spend $$ on NIL without the bells and whistles
Moreover, any coach worth his salt isn't going to a place, long term, without the facilities
Name me one program that has baller NIL without great facilities?
I don't agree with Al on many things, but he's spot on here
Team needs a dedicated fieldhouse ASAP, along w/a FB ops building (expanded and redone Hale Center) just for them - not w/other sports in there
Nebraska people were so nice that one of them, that I made friends with the first time we were there, invited me & MrScrew to his house to drive his tractor & his combine when we went back the 2nd time. Had some beers, drove the tractor, sang the Green Acres song.
A lasting memory for us.
Coaching and NIL is not enough. Dominic Raiola decommitted from Georgia and committed to Nebraska because Nebraska offers the total package.
Our Big Ten recruiting peers offer the total package, especially Maryland and Penn State.
We are not in position to offer more NIL than our Big Ten Recruiting Peers.
Dominic Raiola looked at Nebraska's QB room and knew he'd be starter day 1 and I have a feeling Rhule told him the same. Give us all a break with your fieldhouse spin, he didn't go there because they have a nicer fieldhouse, only an idiot would believe that.
No.
Dylan Raiola decommitted from Georgia last second because his uncle, on the Nebraska staff, received a $250K raise to get him over there. In addition, Kirk Herbstreit tampered by urging him to go to Nebraska because I guess he is a Rhule fanboy, I'm not sure why.
To be honest with you, it's not a great sign that Rhule was not able to reel him in from the beginning as a legacy recruit and a family member on staff. It still took a last minute, under the table effort and compensation package to get him over there.
I don't mean to offend the Nebraska poster here, it's just how I see it. I know Rhule has his fan boys here, mostly because he's a local guy to the ti-state area, but I still believe he won't be Mister Perfect to many here in a few years. We haven't played anyone yet, but neither has Nebraska. That Colorado OL is historically bad. Again, I know the Nebraska poster here is a nice, cordial dude. I just am not a believer in Rhule, and I think he's gonna need to make the very best of having a 5 star QB while he has him because I doubt he gets the stars to align like that again.
When fans from other states come to Rutgers games, they get asked "How ya doing?" about 100 times during their visit. We have that going for NJ! That is a nice story.
Ok, let’s get the Raiola stuff straightened out by starting at the beginning with him.
When Dylan became a player that schools wanted his family always said that they didn’t care where he chose to go as long as the family trusted the people running the team and athletic department. Dylan visited a lot of schools when it all first started and had it narrowed down to 3 originally with it being USC, OSU, and NU. Frost was is Arizona(that’s where they lived at the time) for some event and had a dinner scheduled at the Raiola house that evening. Well, dumbass Frost got drunk at the event and failed to show up. When that happened The family dropped NU with Frost in charge. That’s when Georgia started to recruit him but he committed to OSU before long after the Frost deal. Georgia stayed on him till they got him to decommit from OSU and flip to Georgia.
In the meantime Frost got fired and Rhule got hired. Rhule talked the family into visiting with him when they came to a game in Lincoln. The family has been going to a few games a year since Dominic retired from the NFL. The meeting went ok but Dylan said he was staying with Georgia.
A couple months before signing day something happened between the Raiola family and the Georgia coaching staff that really didn’t set right with the family. They are a very close knit family and even moved to Georgia so the boys and family could be close yet when Dylan was in college. They have never disclosed what occurred between Georgia and the Raiola family. They just weren’t going to be part of it.
Rhule had continued to recruit him despite being a Georgia commit and got the family back on campus and got him to switch to NU because they trusted the NU staff.
These are the things that had nothing to do with him switching:
NIL
Fieldhouse
His uncle on staff or getting him a raise
The family has bled NU red since his dad left Hawaii to play at NU. His name is on the stadium ring of honor and they love NU. All this other stuff is just message board BS.
I might not know a lot but I do know people inside the NU circle and this is what happened in a nutshell.
Edit: I forgot TCU was in the mix for a time because his sister was on the VB team there and they could all be together. She decided to graduate and not use her extra year of VB so they were eliminated.
When Dylan became a player that schools wanted his family always said that they didn’t care where he chose to go as long as the family trusted the people running the team and athletic department. Dylan visited a lot of schools when it all first started and had it narrowed down to 3 originally with it being USC, OSU, and NU. Frost was is Arizona(that’s where they lived at the time) for some event and had a dinner scheduled at the Raiola house that evening. Well, dumbass Frost got drunk at the event and failed to show up. When that happened The family dropped NU with Frost in charge. That’s when Georgia started to recruit him but he committed to OSU before long after the Frost deal. Georgia stayed on him till they got him to decommit from OSU and flip to Georgia.
In the meantime Frost got fired and Rhule got hired. Rhule talked the family into visiting with him when they came to a game in Lincoln. The family has been going to a few games a year since Dominic retired from the NFL. The meeting went ok but Dylan said he was staying with Georgia.
A couple months before signing day something happened between the Raiola family and the Georgia coaching staff that really didn’t set right with the family. They are a very close knit family and even moved to Georgia so the boys and family could be close yet when Dylan was in college. They have never disclosed what occurred between Georgia and the Raiola family. They just weren’t going to be part of it.
Rhule had continued to recruit him despite being a Georgia commit and got the family back on campus and got him to switch to NU because they trusted the NU staff.
These are the things that had nothing to do with him switching:
NIL
Fieldhouse
His uncle on staff or getting him a raise
The family has bled NU red since his dad left Hawaii to play at NU. His name is on the stadium ring of honor and they love NU. All this other stuff is just message board BS.
I might not know a lot but I do know people inside the NU circle and this is what happened in a nutshell.
Edit: I forgot TCU was in the mix for a time because his sister was on the VB team there and they could all be together. She decided to graduate and not use her extra year of VB so they were eliminated.
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Thats because you’re already out 250 mil paying off Rocco, Sal, and a few other gavones before you even break ground in this state.
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