OT: Nebraska Wants Out of Big Ten??

[cubuffsdoug]

I live in Omaha. Some folks miss the Big 12 (Actually the Big 8) rivalries. But no one wants to leave B1G and return to B12

So many people miss this point. Nebraska and Colorado MISS THE BIG 8, not the Big 12. Two totally different leagues and feeling for them. Nebraska ran from Texas the first opportunity and landed in the B1G. Colorado for years heard the calls from the Pac 12 (Pac 10) to seriously consider joining. This goes back to the late 70s right after Arizona and Arizona State joined. Colorado was committed to the Big 8 mainly for the history and location. Colorado's leadership was guilty for holding the Big 8 together so Texas and the rest of the old SWC mates could join and form the Big 12. The thought was a bigger conference would give the league more power, better TV rights, and expand the league's footprint. Colorado was willing to give Texas a chance, but by 2000s they grew tired of the BS with Texas. I'm going to drop CU's AD Rick George a line on this and I bet he'll say, "hahahaha".
Btw, do any of these informed media people remember how 4 teams (CU, NU, Missouri, and A&M) knocked each other down at the door to get out. Only an idiot would return for less money and the possibility of a league collapse.

 

[Scarlet4ever]

I would like OU and maybe Missouri to the B1G west and shift Purdue east.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

Because they fear the sleeping giant....Northwestern.
.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[WhiteBus]

Im guessing the person who started this rumor was either 1. That clown on the WVU board or 2. Blitz who had Rutgers going to the SEC

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Nebraska is leaving the big ten for the big12

Only Uconn joining the big ten is more absurd

 

[LC-88]

You do know the Cubs are in the playoffs right?

You just doomed the Cubs. They will now lose to the wild card team in less than glorious fashion.

 

[BoroKnight]

There probably is a significant segment of Nebraska people who truly miss the old Big 8 days. I don't blame them.

There probably is a significant segment of Rutgers people who truly miss the Princeton game and the Middle Three rivalry with Lehigh and Lafayette. (Speaking of which, we did NOT win the last one in 1975. Lehigh did, which stunned me when I just looked it up.)

And while I understand and respect the emotion attached to the feelings of both groups of people -- I actually miss the days of conferences that made sense -- the impact of those emotions on what is going to happen or not happen going forward is just about zero.

 

[bigmatt718]

You just doomed the Cubs. They will now lose to the wild card team in less than glorious fashion.

And in other news, the Pope is still Catholic, water is still wet and UConn is still in the AAC begging anyone to let them into the P5.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Let OU walk??? You lost me right there. OU is second only to Texas in importance to the Big 12. They're one of the top 10 most valuable college football programs. The conference would never let them walk, they'd do what it takes to keep them happy. If true, I'm sure the B1G would have no problem swapping teams.

 

[WhiteBus]

Let OU walk??? You lost me right there. OU is second only to Texas in importance to the Big 12. They're one of the top 10 most valuable college football programs. The conference would never let them walk, they'd do what it takes to keep them happy. If true, I'm sure the B1G would have no problem swapping teams.

OU may want to walk but there is no way in hell they will let them walk for the exact same reason that Nebraska has no desire to return. Its Texas and the $$$$ they get for the Longhorn Network.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

What is truly sad here is that Uconn athletically has earned the righr to be here more than we have. So enough with be Uconn sarcasm.
In basketball alone. Their football program was on the come and would be again if they replaced us.Right now we are an absolute joke to those who follow D1 college revenue sports. We need to get this damned ship on course by 2018 or it may be curtains for us as my hero Curly Howard used to say.

 

[RUaMoose]

Ah yes, good old social media where every half wit's opinion get amplified for all to see.

 

[WhiteBus]

What is truly sad here is that Uconn athletically has earned the righr to be here more than we have. So enough with be Uconn sarcasm.
In basketball alone. Their football program was on the come and would be again if they replaced us.Right now we are an absolute joke to those who follow D1 college revenue sports. We need to get this damned ship on course by 2018 or it may be curtains for us as my hero Curly Howard used to say.

No they havent. The are crappy state college. They dont fit into the academics of the Big Ten. The Big Ten is not about just sports

 

[RUsince52]

Put the whole band back together? Wouldn't that be something?

Nice Conference

TX
TCU
Baylor
OK
Ok St
K State
KKansas
NEB
WVir
Iowa State

Have to swap out WVA for Missouri and the old gang is back. WVA belongs on the east coast somewhere.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

What is truly sad here is that Uconn athletically has earned the righr to be here more than we have. So enough with be Uconn sarcasm.
In basketball alone. Their football program was on the come and would be again if they replaced us.Right now we are an absolute joke to those who follow D1 college revenue sports. We need to get this damned ship on course by 2018 or it may be curtains for us as my hero Curly Howard used to say.

BRFS...battered Rutgers fan syndrome right there!

 

[Lattner]

Strong rumors Temple to the B1G.

 

[WhiteBus]

Strong rumors Temple to the B1G.

Yes Temple has been hired to supply the cleaning crew for all Big Ten stadiums.

 

[MADHAT1]

Strong rumors Temple to the B1G.

 

[FanuSanu52]

So many people miss this point. Nebraska and Colorado MISS THE BIG 8, not the Big 12. Two totally different leagues and feeling for them. Nebraska ran from Texas the first opportunity and landed in the B1G. Colorado for years heard the calls from the Pac 12 (Pac 10) to seriously consider joining. This goes back to the late 70s right after Arizona and Arizona State joined. Colorado was committed to the Big 8 mainly for the history and location. Colorado's leadership was guilty for holding the Big 8 together so Texas and the rest of the old SWC mates could join and form the Big 12. The thought was a bigger conference would give the league more power, better TV rights, and expand the league's footprint. Colorado was willing to give Texas a chance, but by 2000s they grew tired of the BS with Texas. I'm going to drop CU's AD Rick George a line on this and I bet he'll say, "hahahaha".
Btw, do any of these informed media people remember how 4 teams (CU, NU, Missouri, and A&M) knocked each other down at the door to get out. Only an idiot would return for less money and the possibility of a league collapse.

Colorado looks pretty solid this year. Watched them play Michigan tough, though UM obviously outlasted them, and that great Oregon game.

Enjoying watching USC, UCLA and Oregon having a down year and WA, CO, UT, etc. stepping up to fill the power vacuum. Will be rooting for CO, hopefully will finally establish some momentum in the PAC - encouraging for RU, too!

 

[sherrane]

Nebraska is leaving the big ten for the big12

Only Uconn joining the big ten is more absurd

I disagree. I'm not saying UConn in the B1G isn't absurd, but it is more reasonable than this Nebraska rumor. I'd say Villanova to the ACC is the only rumor I've ever heard on this board more absurd than this.

 

[ecojew]

I agree with the comment that many Nebraska fans probably miss the Big 8 more than the Big 12. In the Big 8, the NU - OU rivalry was the biggest thing going but in the Big 12, the schools were in different divisions and didn't even play one another every season, so the rivalry began to lose some of its lustre.

Anyway, the rumor in the OP is unbelievable. I can't see Nebraska wanting to leave a conference as stable and rich as the B1G and all of its sports benefit from the BTN exposure that I don't believe is matched by any other conference networks.

As for OU in the B1G, no thanks. It's not an AAU school and would represent a big step downward in terms of academics. It's also not a contiguous state, unless Kansas comes in with it. And I hope that the B1G has the good sense to avoid Texas and all the drama that comes with it.

I would like to see the B1G go to 16 schools by adding UVa and UNC once they become available. That would give RU some closer road games while adding the 10th and 12th most populous states in the union, with a lot of TV sets.

 

[MozRU]

Can the B1G just bring in Oklahoma and West Virgina and then close the door and lock it to anyone else?

AAU? Whatever man.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Can the B1G just bring in Oklahoma and West Virgina and then close the door and lock it to anyone else?

AAU? Whatever man.

Nice way to dumb-down the conference...that's for sure!

 

[srru86]

I would imagine that many Nebraska fans liked the proximity of Iowa State, K-State, Kansas, and Missouri in the Big XII. As it is, Iowa and Minnesota are somewhat close, and other games are much, much further away.

Nebraska will always have enough money, so the incremental Big Ten dollars vs Big Twelve probably matter less there than at many other schools.

The thing I did not realize about the Nebraska fan base until I visited Lincoln is how many of them (folks that attend games) come from somewhere else for the games. Assume most were born and educated as Huskers but moved to Denver, Texas, Indianapolis, Chicago, etc. for the jobs. Enough that there is a serious market for apartments that people only use on game weekends.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

It's not like they are super far away from everyone else, Nebraska is still in the Mid-West.

 

[srru86]

I think this report has less basis in fact than all the "There's Killer Clowns Stalking Schools" stories.

 

[RUfinal4]

or maybe the B10 adds Oklahoma and Kansas. Nebraska will have 2 former Big mates that way.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

or maybe the B10 adds Oklahoma and Kansas. Nebraska will have 2 former Big mates that way.

Or maybe Nebraska grows a pair and realizes they're no longer in the big 8/12...[winking]

 

[RURM85]

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[jason21psu]

I love expansion talk. For those that are against XYZ school because of non AAU status consider this. I'll use OU as an example. OU and B1G agree that OU's future payout be tied to future academic improvement. After the B1G buy-in period OU has 10 years to obtain AAU status. If they fail they lose status as a full member and conference payout is reduced to say 75%.

Now why would B1G agree, well in OU's case they are a CFB blue blood and it would restore the annual OU-NEB rivalry. OU's incentive would be $$ and a chance to improve their academic standing. Sounds like a win-win to me.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

I love expansion talk. For those that are against XYZ school because of non AAU status consider this. I'll use OU as an example. OU and B1G agree that OU's future payout be tied to future academic improvement. After the B1G buy-in period OU has 10 years to obtain AAU status. If they fail they lose status as a full member and conference payout is reduced to say 75%.

Now why would B1G agree, well in OU's case they are a CFB blue blood and it would restore the annual OU-NEB rivalry. OU's incentive would be $$ and a chance to improve their academic standing. Sounds like a win-win to me.

http://newsok.com/article/5473247

 

[jason21psu]

http://newsok.com/article/5473247

WRT my post what point are you supporting/refuting? According to the article OU is not currently on a trajectory for AAU status and they said it would be at least a decade to pull it off. I think it lines up pretty well with my hypothetical. One question for OU would be so they want to raise their academic standing or not?

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

WRT my post what point are you supporting/refuting? According to the article OU is not currently on a trajectory for AAU status and they said it would be at least a decade to pull it off. I think it lines up pretty well with my hypothetical. One question for OU would be so they want to raise their academic standing or not?

The link was just to show that at least someone else is also thinking along the same lines. AAU is about research, I am not sure how much research OU actual does. When focusing on research, Rutgers ranks in the top 25 in the nation as does PSU. Most Big Ten schools make the cut.

I am not sure how I feel about going beyond 14 schools for football. I think that 14 is just right as long as you play 9 conference games, you can play every school at least once every 4 years. With 16 schools, you go to 10 conference games in order to keep that sense of unity.

We will see what happens.

 

[Mr Magoo]

The guy reporting this is a clown. Nebraska isn't going anywhere. Why in the world would they leave just when they start getting the full lucrative B1G payment. They would look like absolute morons. The B1G is also a much better academic conference also and even if they went back to the Big 12, it's questionable that Oklahoma and Texas will still be there when the transition in complete. It's true that Nebraska's brand has suffered in recent years, but if would suffer even more if they jumped on a sinking ship.

 

[jason21psu]

The link was just to show that at least someone else is also thinking along the same lines. AAU is about research, I am not sure how much research OU actual does. When focusing on research, Rutgers ranks in the top 25 in the nation as does PSU. Most Big Ten schools make the cut.

I am not sure how I feel about going beyond 14 schools for football. I think that 14 is just right as long as you play 9 conference games, you can play every school at least once every 4 years. With 16 schools, you go to 10 conference games in order to keep that sense of unity.

We will see what happens.

Understood.

I think 14 is the perfect max number as well. When they changed the conference championship game rules I think they did away with the division requirement so I would take advantage of it and do away with divisions. I broke down before and don't remember exactly how it worked but I think each team would have 4 teams that they played every year, 3 teams they played 4 of every 6 years, and 6 teams they played 2 of every 4. The B1G championship game would then put the 2 highest ranked teams unless a head-to-head matchup could be used as a tie breaker.

In a 4 year career you'd be guaranteed a home and away game against every B1G school as a player.

 

[jmc11201]

I will reply tonight. Busy for a while yet.

@huskersalways

Thoughts on Nebraska and the Big Ten vs Big Twelve?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Strong rumors Temple to the B1G.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Oh man, THANK YOU, I had a lousy work week and really, really needed a laugh!

 

[graystork]

No one cares what Nebraska's fans think. Nebraska makes more money in the Big 10. And they're going to leave now that they're just about to get a full share? Dream on Big 12. CFB is going to 4 major leagues and you're not one of them.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

@huskersalways

Thoughts on Nebraska and the Big Ten vs Big Twelve?

He's too busy trying to catch his breath after all that non-stop laughter!

 

[huskersalways]

@huskersalways

Thoughts on Nebraska and the Big Ten vs Big Twelve?

Like it has been stated earlier in this thread, if NU could do anything its fans would like to have the old Big 8 back. It was just always the traditional conference NU was part of from the beginning of the modern era of cfb. The fans didn't mind the Big 12 because it still did have the traditional Big 8 schools but hated the fact that they didn't play OU any more. I'm not sure any older(like me) fan ever cared for the Big 12 and really don't care for the Big 10 the way it is now. The younger generation seems to like the Big 10 more than the Big 12 but they didn't grow up with NU/OU or get the chance to travel to the regional "local" places like Kansas, KSU, Okie St(best cheerleaders). They never got to experience what a true respected rival game is like very much with OU only on the schedule twice every four years. They are willing to build a rivalry with a Big 10 team going forward if the Big 10 ever quits messing around with stuff. Even the younger NU fans are not fans of all the expansion stuff. The NU fans that are my age and above are very traditional fans and hate all of the conference expansion. A great game is being ruined by it(and a few other things). The only part of the Big 12 they really want back is OU unless it was just the Big 8 teams. NU will never return to the Big 12 and the Big 12 will never carry the "cache" it did when it was started regardless of who they try and poach from the available teams. Just like most fans my age and above as to how they like conferences it is Big 8, then a huge gap to the Big 12 and Big 10. I'm like many of my friends who don't like the Big 10 period, but we are here and keep supporting all the sports and school so in some aspects we don't care what conference NU is in. I know compared to the Big 8 and Big 12 there are far fewer NU fans traveling because most take their families, including smaller kids to the games but having to fly to the vast majority of away games it doesn't work. The first year we were in the Big 10 I talked to a friend who is older who attends every game regardless of where it is said his first years traveling cost was more than 5 years of Big 12 because he drove to every game except A&M and TT but had to fly to every game but Iowa in the Big 10 to make it fit his schedule. He and his wife's streak has come to and end.(started in the 90's). It is what it is so NU fans will adjust and move on,but like me, the older ones are attending fewer and fewer games and our kids are taking over our spots and they don't seem to mind the travel so I really don't care what happens going forward, my days for attending are numbered. Hope that makes sense but unlikely. Ha