I agree the cap increase is coming but that doesn't change the impact state taxes have. 7% tax rate on 8M contract is 560k, and if it's an 8 year deal, a total of $4M. It's lower than that given the home / away dynamics but even if you cut it in half it's not insignificant.
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Totally agree. Fun fact I heard recently. 6 of the last 7 cups have involved a no state income tax team. The NHL realistically should adjust the cap to account for state income tax rates to level the playing field. For example, the rangers salary cap should be able to be X% more than Dallas due to Texas not having state income tax and NY having both state and city tax.
To dig this back up, I would not want my team to have had a year like the Oilers just had. Doesn’t mean it was bad, or the comeback to tie wasn’t neat. But, the overall memory will be the heartbreak of tonight.
It may make next year sweeter if they win the cup, but if they don’t, tonight will be the memory they have of this era.
With the length of the season and playoffs, it's hard for teams to play for the Stanley Cup and return. Give Florida credit. It's going to be a short off season and will be hard to defend.
That’s one of those things the fans and sport media care about a lot more than the owners and players do, so it isn’t going to change anytime soon.
There is no incentive for the players to do it, so the owners would have to give them something to get them to go along with the change.
I don’t see it happening.
Theres an enormous incentive for players to do it. It would be allowing clubs in high state income tax states to effectively pay their state income tax bills. Big market owners want it, small ones dont.
You are losing sight of the fact that the overall salary cap is 50% of revenue. They aren’t going to just let the high tax states pay more, they will adjust things so that the high tax states have a higher cap than the the low/no tax states, but the total will still add up to 50% of revenues.
A lot of players like playing in the warm weather states like Florida. They aren’t going to be in favor of the system reducing the amount they can make in those places.
People are under the misconception that if taxes were even the desirability of teams will even out. There are other factors. Most Canadian players put the Canadian cities first on their NTC lists. They want to play somewhere warmer and where hockey media isn’t so intrusive.
Players are subject to state taxation in any state where they play. Residency is an issue I won't touch. But the difference in the state taxes they pay is nt as much as they appear. Players for the Florida teams get tagged each game they play against the Rangers, Islanders and Devils.
Keep an eye on Ross Colton to NYR. Apparently rangers have interest and aves need to move for cap space
The story is that every prospect except Perreault is available as well.
I don’t want Kane, they can’t afford to pay Guentzel, and Zegras is soft and plays no defense so I don’t see him as a fit at all (actually being soft he is a perfect “fit” for playing with Mika and Kreider. They could call it the 10-Ply Line).
I think if he could, Drury would love to make a big Matthew Tkachuk type trade for a guy like Brady or Tuch, but I don’t see that they have the pieces to get something like that done.
I can totally see them adding Colton given how the Fla series went.
He would be good use of the Goodrow money.
Rumor is they have been offering Kakko in an attempt to trade up.
They have been denying it for months, but you know Dolan wants a big splash by the Rangers at his event.
Ive heard those but they seem dumb to me. Youre in win now, you dont trade a very solid 3rd line winger to move up 10-20 spots in the draft for a player who wont make the show for 3 years
It’s not even a draft deep enough to be that valuable in the range the Rangers are capable of trading up to from 30.
However, I would put nothing past Dolan. Gorton, Davidson, and Buchnevich leaving in a short period of time were all likely caused by a Dolan temper tantrum.
Buch was because drury thought he had an agreement in principle with buffalo to get eichel. Obviously backfired
That doesn’t explain the curcumstances of that deal. They didn’t have to free up the cap to get Eichel before they got Eichel since it was the summer.
If they truly just needed to get rid of Buch by August because they were getting Eichel, they could have just waited two weeks and the market for him would have been much bigger.
Devils fan/Rags hater here.
But in looking up potential Devils picks at 10 oa I happened upon a 6'7" rags 2023 6th rndr who had a nice season including a strong playoffs. Bunch of pims too.
Really don't like the idea of the Rag's rolling multiple 6'7" giants out there.
Consider this a PSA from a knowledgeable hockey fan to a fanbase that is severely lacking in that dept.
But in looking up potential Devils picks at 10 oa I happened upon a 6'7" rags 2023 6th rndr who had a nice season including a strong playoffs. Bunch of pims too.
Really don't like the idea of the Rag's rolling multiple 6'7" giants out there.
Consider this a PSA from a knowledgeable hockey fan to a fanbase that is severely lacking in that dept.
Yeah rangers signed him like a month ago. Hes gotta chance. Rangers have found some mutanta who can actually play a little in the late rounds.
Can you consult with someone who knows how to form a sentence before your next visit here?
You understand that gibberish?
What does Dylan Roobroeck have with the early part of his year’s first round?
Why is it a PSA to bring up a random late round pick from last year we knew about already?
I assume that means he played this past year with someone who is getting drafted early Friday, but one of the least interesting and least relevant things in hockey is how guys do in their D+1 year in juniors when they are older than most of their competition.
Well he was actually eligible for the 2022 draft so he was actually in his D+2 year, but with a July b-day, he is young for his draft. Could be said he was in his D+1.5 year. I'm sure you knew all this though.
But if you want to hate on your guy that's cool.
PS, the irony I mentioned was in relation to your grammatical error.
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haha agreed. I am hopefully DR can eventually crack the lineup as a 4th liner and we can roll out a 4th line in 2025-2026 of Roobroeck-Edstrom-Rempe. Would have to be the biggest line in NHL history haha
It would look like a scene from “Slapshot” that ended up on the cutting room floor. LOL
Pointing out that stats accumulated when one is older in Canadian juniors aren’t that interesting or relevant isn’t “hating on”.
I am more impressed when a post draft player does well as an NCAA freshman against a lot of 21-22 year olds, or gets time in the SHL/KHL and looks like they belong.
It’s tough being a Ranger fan sometimes, having to watch your fellow fans get excited a week ago over dumping the bad Goodrow contract, get excited now over the possibility of getting rid of the bad Trouba contract, yet also get angry that they didn’t get in on the huge, long term, free agent deals wingers are getting today.
Having to re-sign both Igor and Lafrenierre next year to BIG contracts, plus RFAs like Kakko, Miller, Rempe, Cuylle needing to be re-signed next year..there was almost zero possibility and reason for them to be in on long-term deals for wingers today.
I guess because the cap went up a good amount for the first time in a while, most of the numbers being thrown around today looked pretty crazy.
The majority, if not the disproportionate majority, of today's long term deal will not age well.
What big long term free agent winger was worth not being able to be involved in the massive 2025 or 2026 UFA classes? The answer is none. Im not paying a 30 year old Guentzel 7 X $9 to ensure I have ZERO chance at draisaitl or rantennen 1 year from now or mcdavid (i dont think he ever hits ufa), kaprisov, eichel in 2026.
Very real possibility that Draisaitl comes to NY next offseason. Wife wants out of edmonton. And if you land Leon it’s likely in the range of 7 X $13.5. Then your lineup is likely
Panarin-Draisaitl-Perreault
Kreider-Mika-Laff
Cuylle-Trocheck-Othmann
Edstrom-Carrick-Rempe
The following offseason Panarin comes off the books and also will be easy to move kreider if they need the space to take runs at kaprisov and eichel.
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