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OT: Phil Knight providing Oregon with unlimited NIL Resources

Need to be soliciting the home depot guy like you solicit this board. Lol no one here can close the nil gap phil knight provides for Oregon. Unless there are some board members I'm unaware of...I'll say it again, in this location, Rutgers needs to be working on corporate sponsors, new AD should create a position with the sole purpose of soliciting NIL.
The Home Depot guy, Bernie Marcus, is dead.

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But Al's songs have been rumored to raise the dead.
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The Phil Knight foundation is worth 2.8 Billion dollars. Last year he gave away 212 million dollars to charities other than Oregon sports. His foundation requires he give away at least 5% of its assets yearly.
I think he’s doing enough to piss away a few million on his hobby
Thank you, VKJ. I didn't know that. It makes me feel a lot better about Phil Knight, even though I still don't really like having a subsidiary of Nike in the Big Ten.

When allowed, the hidden hand of money can ruin anything and everything, in sports and beyond. That's progress...
 
It's a free country. Phil Knight can do whatever he wants to do with his disposable income, at least in the current unregulated college athletics environment. I'll make my donations as I see fit, too - which generally speaking, means to truly needy people and not 5* athletes looking for the biggest bag they can get. I'll still bleed scarlet, cheer when we win and be unhappy when we lose.
That may be true of private money, but I think there are legitimate questions about whether states and public institutions should be spending public money and tuition to float college football programs, scholarships and facilities for athletic competition that is not played on a level field. There need to be some reasonable guard rails to keep this a sport and not just commerce.
 
Thank you, VKJ. I didn't know that. It makes me feel a lot better about Phil Knight, even though I still don't really like having a subsidiary of Nike in the Big Ten.

When allowed, the hidden hand of money can ruin anything and everything, in sports and beyond. That's progress...
aren't you a part time Maryland fan or do I have that wrong? I'm old enough to remember when certain posters, including Al, said UA money was going to make Maryland the next Bama
 
That may be true of private money, but I think there are legitimate questions about whether states and public institutions should be spending public money and tuition to float college football programs, scholarships and facilities for athletic competition that is not played on a level field. There need to be some reasonable guard rails to keep this a sport and not just commerce.
should we also regulate how much schools can spend on science departments? Should we make all states fund their universities equally?
 
Level playing field has little to do with NIL.

Nike providing unlimited funds directly to the Oregon AD for years has created an uneven playing field well before NIL.
Yea and they still haven’t won a championship despite hundreds of millions invested. Finally may do it this year. A&M throws money around like water too and they haven’t even made a playoffs yet. Many other examples as well. Money is very helpful, increases the odds of success and you’d rather have it than not but it’s not a guarantee of anything.

There’s always the focus on the money rather than the actual ends going on in CFB. The field is as level as it’s ever been and opportunity is as good as it’s ever been. We’re seeing things that haven’t happened in a long time or ever. As a fan that’s all I care about and having hope going into any given year. Fans from many schools, including lower status ones, can feel they have chance to achieve some meaningful good accomplishments in any given year. That’s a good thing.
 
Need to be soliciting the home depot guy like you solicit this board. Lol no one here can close the nil gap phil knight provides for Oregon. Unless there are some board members I'm unaware of...I'll say it again, in this location, Rutgers needs to be working on corporate sponsors, new AD should create a position with the sole purpose of soliciting NIL.
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should we also regulate how much schools can spend on science departments? Should we make all states fund their universities equally?
absurd comparison. Colleges exist to educate and do research. The acceleration of outside money is making football less recognizable as a fit in the same institutions.
 
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Would be great if these millionaires and billionaires used their money for important things like curing F’in cancer instead of paying off a bunch of teenagers.
The Knight Cancer Institute at Oregon Health & Science University in Portland conducts tons of cutting edge research and treats reams of patients each year. Yes, funded with big dollars from a certain Phil guy.
 
Would be great if these millionaires and billionaires used their money for important things like curing F’in cancer instead of paying off a bunch of teenagers.

And paying off middle aged men to buy clothes and get country club memberships.
Right?

You left out that part.

Billionaires should be trying to cure cancer instead of paying off middle aged men to take private jets to woo said teenagers.
 
absurd comparison. Colleges exist to educate and do research. The acceleration of outside money is making football less recognizable as a fit in the same institutions.

Agreed.
Get rid of outside money ("donations") funding athletic departments.
 
Just got done reading an article SMU

Basically SMU's Board Chair organized a meeting of 12 donors - collectively worth $15B. So a far cry from Oregon dollars, but they invested in the program to propel it to the playoffs.

From the article, “It’s a couple hundred million dollars,” Miller, the founder of EnCap Investments, an oil and gas private equity firm, told Yahoo at the time. “I’m not losing sleep over it.”

Yeah, that's what we're dealing with. Without deep pockets, there is no hat in the ring. A couple hundred million dollars. While we have destitute fans who complain about overpriced hot dogs and smuggle in water bottles to avoid paying the stadium surcharge.
 
I didn’t ask anyone for anything. People should be cognizant of what the competition is doing.
The competition, almost universally, has substantially better coaching, philosophies and schemes. And it's not even close.

You are just too blind a fanboy to be capable of having an objective thought so it always comes back to NIL / Fieldhouse.
 
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Need to be soliciting the home depot guy like you solicit this board. Lol no one here can close the nil gap phil knight provides for Oregon. Unless there are some board members I'm unaware of...I'll say it again, in this location, Rutgers needs to be working on corporate sponsors, new AD should create a position with the sole purpose of soliciting NIL.
First off, he’s dead. Died a couple months ago. Secondly, he never gave two shits about Rutgers University and probably didn’t leave us a penny. Pretty sure he never gave a penny to the school after he left either. If I recall correctly, most of his money went to Emory University outside of Atlanta.
 
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First off, he’s dead. Died a couple months ago. Secondly, he never gave two shits about Rutgers University and probably didn’t leave us a penny. Pretty sure he never gave a penny to the school after he left either. If I recall correctly, most of his money went to Emory University outside of Atlanta.
Just think of all the Rutgers Screws he had to deal with in his time at Rutgers-Newark.
 
Taking a timeout would not have mattered because we would have already put the game away beforehand, if our NIL situation were better.
That's not entirely true or predictable.
should we also regulate how much schools can spend on science departments? Should we make all states fund their universities equally?
When they have a national championship for biology lab, then it should be regulated.
Where's the billionaire that's going to provide an endless supply of cash?
Jersey Mike's owner just sold the company for 8 billion.
 
Thank you, VKJ. I didn't know that. It makes me feel a lot better about Phil Knight, even though I still don't really like having a subsidiary of Nike in the Big Ten.

When allowed, the hidden hand of money can ruin anything and everything, in sports and beyond. That's progress...
But having a subsidiary of Under Armor in the B1G is ok?????
 
There will be increased pressure both from the schools in the big conferences and probably from media conglomerates to add regulation, rules and process to the current situation. The overall health and competitiveness of the sport will require it. Having a sport that gets monopolized by a handful of schools because of unlimited resources isn’t going to be sustainable over the long run.
 
College football is great!!! It's just like the NFL. Except for the minor issues that it has no one in charge, no salary cap, no restrictions on player movement, no draft, and illogical money losing obligations tied to fund women's sports. Who wouldn't want to give even more of their hard earned money to players who transfer every season. Great thread once again Al!!!!
 
No it's not.
The solution is regulation of college athletics. If there was only an association that existed to make and enforce rules.
But there is No Chance At Achieving that.

Seriously, however, salary caps should be imposed just as they are in professional leagues.
More regulation = bitcoin payments
 
I personally really like Al as a person and a Rutgers fan...And he is far from an idiot.

But...I do admit that the constant NIL/Fieldhouse posts on everything has pushed me further away from considering NIL...It is like the sales person that calls, emails, text, and linkedin you all within 24 hours.

But to repeat- as a person and as a Rutgers fan- he is the best...I even understand and love his over the top football posts.
Your just cheap and use Al making sense as excuse # 39000. It’s not new that this fanbase has never given more than an opinion.
 
aren't you a part time Maryland fan or do I have that wrong? I'm old enough to remember when certain posters, including Al, said UA money was going to make Maryland the next Bama
Oregon is the more relevant comparison, if Kevin Plank can get UnderArmour turned around.
 
I personally really like Al as a person and a Rutgers fan...And he is far from an idiot.

But...I do admit that the constant NIL/Fieldhouse posts on everything has pushed me further away from considering NIL...It is like the sales person that calls, emails, text, and linkedin you all within 24 hours.

But to repeat- as a person and as a Rutgers fan- he is the best...I even understand and love his over the top football posts.
That seems silly.

Like saying your constant "Where shud I move" posts have made the act of moving less appealing.
 
The competition, almost universally, has substantially better coaching, philosophies and schemes. And it's not even close.

You are just too blind a fanboy to be capable of having an objective thought so it always comes back to NIL / Fieldhouse.
Urban Meyer could have chosen just about any Defensive Coordinator, but he chose Greg Schiano because his schemes are as good as anyone else’s.

For two years of the three years Schiano was there, Ohio State had a top notch defense. Schiano’s third year OSUs defense was hit by graduations and kids leaving for the NFL. Similarly, Greg Schiano had top notch schemes and players at the University of Miami. In 2000, Miami deserved to play for the National Championship, but they were passed over by FSU.

So how could Schiano’s schemes and philosophies work so well at Miami and Ohio State, but not work so well at Rutgers? It’s the talent. An old coach who used to post would say, “It’s the alignment, not the alignees”.

Miami and Ohio State fans have provided the support to recruit top notch players for decades. Football success isn’t as important to our fanbase, and that’s just the way it’s going to be.
 
But having a subsidiary of Under Armor in the B1G is ok?????
That's fair to call me out as a hypocrite. You got me.

However, what Nike does for Oregon is of a different magnitude from what any corporation is doing for any college athletic program -- certainly from what UA does for Maryland.

If I had my way, there wouldn't be any of this corporate sponsorship, but that ship sailed decades ago.

Have a great Christmas...
 
So how could Schiano’s schemes and philosophies work so well at Miami and Ohio State, but not work so well at Rutgers? It’s the talent.

That's my issue with the GS philosophy of having a beans-n-franks offense that's supposed to limit turnovers while dynamic defense drops the hammer. Great defenses don't grow like weeds. RU is always a group or two short - not to mention lack of depth. DBs are the most consistent but after that its a flea market. Defense needs more athletic types but a few of those have to be heroes (like Ed Reed on GS team) who flash when you expect them to and then when you dont. Just "executing" only works in high school.
 
That seems silly.

Like saying your constant "Where shud I move" posts have made the act of moving less appealing.
that is actually a stupid comparison- if the fieldhouse was all in a single thread- all is good.

And even my buddy Al knows my personal feeling on NIL and why and that I agree with others that bringing up a new fieldhouse on new and different threads mult times is annoying to many of us.
 
Taking a timeout would not have mattered because we would have already put the game away beforehand, if our NIL situation were better.
But it did matter and our coach caused the loss and then instead of taking it on the chin he doubled down and said it was the right decision.
 
that is actually a stupid comparison- if the fieldhouse was all in a single thread- all is good.

And even my buddy Al knows my personal feeling on NIL and why and that I agree with others that bringing up a new fieldhouse on new and different threads mult times is annoying to many of us.
I mean, it wasn't one thread, but okay.
 
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