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ashokan said:
States had legitimate questions about how 2020 vote was jiggered around using CV as an excuse. Only after the vote did they realize how "unusual" a lot of activity was. Tons of ballots showed-up in middle of the night (after faking a counting stop). Later on it was found that many addresses, names etc weren't lining-up. Empty lots and fast food restaurants were used as resident addresses. AZ was only lost by around 12k votes (and Fox called AZ suspiciously early).

There was never an attempt for Pence to throw out results. There were states that wanted to investigate what had happened to them on the fly because too many things were out of whack - including destroyed evidence that was supposed to have been saved. Corrupt areas like Philly and Phoenix (McCain cartel controlled it) refused any reviews of votes. States that wanted to audit addresses were threatened by proven corrupt DOJ. Reviews like FL in 2000 were blocked and "questioners" were portrayed as "election denier criminals" when there were no such laws. Its 1st A to question anything.

France and UK both tried mail0in ballots and the process was so corrupt that it got ditched. Covid gave an excuse for US to seize the moment for the same monkey business. There are so many angles to an election (voter fraud vs election fraud - state vs federal protocols - quick deadlines that can be abused etc) that foul play is easy when top authorities are running the game..

USPS Confirms Truckload of 288K Completed Ballots Went from N.Y. to Pa. in 2020
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USPS Confirms Truckload of 288K Completed Ballots Went from N.Y. to Pa. in 2020 | Headline USA

(Jacob Bruns, Headline USA) A United States Postal Service whistleblower who admitted to shipping hundreds of hundreds of thousands of ballots from New York to Pennsylvania during the 2020 election has finally been validated by a USPS report, the Gateway Pundit reported. In December 2020, US...
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DOJ issues guidance cautioning states on so-called election 'audits'​

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DOJ issues guidance cautioning states on so-called election 'audits'

The Justice Department on Wednesday released guidance cautioning states embarking on so-called post-election 'audits' of vote counts for the 2020 presidential election.
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LOL. I am starting to feel bad for you.
 
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Ty Webb said:
LOL. I am starting to feel bad for you.
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Yea, all those lawyers for the 60+ plus lawsuits couldn't find the same evidence that ashokan listed and the Dem and Rep judges presiding in those cases couldn't either. Those lawyers should retake their bar exams, maybe ashokan can tutor them. The internet and social media has just really f****d up this country.
 
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ScarletNut said:
Yea, all those lawyers for the 60+ plus lawsuits couldn't find the same evidence that ashokan listed and the Dem and Rep judges presiding in those cases couldn't either. Those lawyers should retake their bar exams, maybe ashokan can tutor them. The internet and social media has just really f****d up this country.
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Evidence doesn't matter in hell and whistleblowers dont matter in DC.
The laptop was evidence and FBI/DOJ (under Bushie Barr no less) and high ranking clowns lied about it
We've been put through fake impeachments, lawsuits, SWAT raids, lawfare etc since 2015.
Its spectacularly obvious corrupt/selfish people are running things.
They wrecked the border on purpose - most treacherous act in US history.
They got a half billion Ukrainians killed after sinking a peace deal in March 2022.
They wrecked military in Afghanistan pullout where allies weren't even warned
Deviants are put in charge of things on purpose to demoralize and have US mocked around the world.
US blows-up ally pipelines and takes sides with Iran and Hamas
US pays for bio-weapon research - in China - and forces unconstitutional mandates.
No group has done more damage to US in a short time - with the "educated" people being dullest of all (they wrecked Ivy League too).

Now it turns-out the DHS (broke border on purpose) was running things at the PA shooting and not SS.
Oh "the roof was too steep"

www.telegraph.co.uk

Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban
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RUBOB72 said:
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So you threaten me now ?It was mean’t only that you were going to render opinion on Dobbs. You need to temper your hate of those you don’t agree with.
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I never hated anybody in my life. That's clearly not what you meant. You meant a personal insult & you need to own it & stuff it. I had over a dozen real good scraps in my earlier days. Won them all & put most of the guys on their backs. I'll be 82 this year & I still wouldn't bet against me. If I got this wrong I apologize.
 
Ty Webb said:
I can't tell if you are obtuse or being disingenuous with this response. As I said, I didn't have a problem with Dobbs being a Trump supporter. My problem arose with Dobbs when he went on air and started pushing bizarre conspiracies and lies about the 2020 election, the lies/misinformation that got himself and his employer sued - eventually costing them hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Almost as bizarre as saying Biden has been competant for 2 years and sharp as a tack
 
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I'm going to note this just once, then get on with my life. The Dem troops might or might not unite around Kamala, but in any case this is almost unprecedented. In '68, LBJ dropped out in late March and the presumptive nominee, RFK, was murdered in early June. As we know, HHH got the nomination, but McCarthy was a credible contender. Ultimately, George Wallace ran as a third party (Segregationist plank) and took the folks we would now call Trumplicans with him. Nixon narrowly won.

EDIT: Back in '68, Southern Conservatives (i.e., segregationists, former slavers), pretty much all voted Democratic from before the Civil War up to around 1970-1980. They now pretty much all vote Republican. End edit.

It's far from clear what the Dems will do this year, though I suspect they will rally around a Kamala/Pete ticket.

However, I have this nagging unanswered question. What if Trump was assassinated? I have no idea who or how the GOP would have picked. Now the choice would an easy pick - Vance. But Vance wasn't announced when Trump was wounded. If he were murdered, I think the GOP nominating process would have been 100% chaos. Hard to imagine this GOP uniting around anyone else but Trump himself.
 
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bac2therac said:
Well the media and msm got exactly what they deserved for this 4 year charade
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It was obvious dude had problems back in 2020 (a reason they kept him off campaign trail)
Despite years of shaking hands with ghosts, trips/falls, gaffs, Parkinson's traits he was still being held as "sharp as a tack."
Listen to Morning Joe just 4 months ago.
The media is 100% trailer park.
I include Fox in that but they must do a couple things right because the search engines leave them out


 
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JB declined over the past 2 years minimum. He wasn’t calling the shots … not a chance in hell. O ‘ bama , Bill n Hillary, Nancy and the squad. Both sides are culpable for many , many years. Now the best… he wants USA citizens to believe he’s up for the task in the last 5+ months. Change is a good thing they say.
 
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Knight Shift said:
Oh please, save me and yourself the time. And stop with your conspiracy bs. Shall we dig up some statements by Fauci himself and some of the the other gobernment vax shills that later admitted the vax did not prevent spread and they knew natural immunity was actually more durable than the vax? Try another gotcha.

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So I guess it is safe to conclude from your answer to my questions about whether or not you read the scientific literature or if you are an immunologist is "no".

Exactly what I thought. I'll go back to ignoring the conspiracy theories.

Should you ever want to actually educate yourself, let me know and I will send you the actual data.
 
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UMRU said:
So I guess it is safe to conclude from your answer to my questions about whether or not you read the scientific literature or if you are an immunologist is "no".

Exactly what I thought. I'll go back to ignoring the conspiracy theories.

Should you ever want to actually educate yourself, let me know and I will send you the actual data.
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Save your haughty bullshit for someone else. Enjoy your echo chamber.
 
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ashokan said:
It was obvious dude had problems back in 2020 (a reason they kept him off campaign trail)
Despite years of shaking hands with ghosts, trips/falls, gaffs, Parkinson's traits he was still being held as "sharp as a tack."
Listen to Morning Joe just 4 months ago.
The media is 100% trailer park.
I include Fox in that but they must do a couple things right because the search engines leave them out


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Well there are some still saying they didnt know til the debate

Bahahahahaha
 
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bac2therac said:
Well there are some still saying they didnt know til the debate

Bahahahahaha
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As a kid I hated Reagan - was told he would start a nuke war and I would get drafted. Then I realized he was actually a good leader and he was hated for being half-decent. I went from Dem to Reagan Dem to GOP. Left the GOP when the Iran war was foolishly started. I've never been a slave to the political alphabet

For all the bad the blues do, the reds often lets them - Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious - all GOP show hearings they made sure went nowhere - limited hang-outs ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout ).

I wanted Scott Walker before Trump. But Trump is the enema the blob needed - had both party leaders hating him and cooperating to keep the grift going. All I heard was how DT was mentally unfit and would wreck the economy (Friedman) and start WWIII.

Now here they have us with a Manchurian Pumpkin head as leader who broke border on purpose and has gov pumping out fake economic stats month after month while stirring pot with 3 wars it cant even fight (with the DEI crews that crash their Navy ships that can see each other 2 hours away).

Like I did, a few people need to stop carrying water for the political alphabet. Hating DT is not a platform for success. The blues have been hijacked since the 90s and after MoveOn killed-off the Blue Dogs and used non-profits to fill gov with radicals. Lots of GOP and Dems have jumped from the con game
 
RAHWAYBOB said:
It really is a classless post! While Proud and I had different viewpoints we enjoyed a fun back and forth.
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Yeah, thanks a lot. More importantly, this creates an opening on the CE board chess team. Perhaps, the profoundly stupid people who were excluded a few months ago can step up.

My roster still has @bac2therac @Knight Shift @vic_torre42 .

Now the boys who can move up are @ashokan who pisses away his life posting Qanon conspiracy BS in absurd quantities of word. @BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine who, stepping up from the checker team where he is 0-lifetime, is admittedly a bit of a reach, but let's make America great. Finally, we have @RUBOB72 who was the first to begin personal attacks in this thread in the first couple of pages.

Why don't we see which one can post the most idiotic thing ever?
 
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thegock said:
Yeah, thanks a lot. More importantly, this creates an opening on the CE board chess team. Perhaps, the profoundly stupid people who were excluded a few months ago can step up.

My roster still has @bac2therac @Knight Shift @vic_torre42 .

Now the boys who can move up are @ashokan who pisses away his life posting Qanon conspiracy BS in absurd quantities of word. @BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine who, stepping up from the checker team where he is 0-lifetime, is admittedly a bit of a reach, but let's make America great. Finally, we have @RUBOB72 who was the first to begin personal attacks in this thread in the first couple of pages.

Why don't we see which one can post the most idiotic thing ever?
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You’re right up there for idiotic posts. You were no different 4 years ago or did you forget? So hurt being called out . Ahhhh.
 
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ashokan said:
As a kid I hated Reagan - was told he would start a nuke war and I would get drafted. Then I realized he was actually a good leader and he was hated for being half-decent. I went from Dem to Reagan Dem to GOP. Left the GOP when the Iran war was foolishly started. I've never been a slave to the political alphabet
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Same for me with regard to Reagan. He wasn't perfect, and I didn't like him or his bag at the time, but in retrospect, he was a damn good leader who largely brought the country together (anybody old enough to remember the late seventies knows what I mean). He had true conservative values that he really believed in. My memory is that most couldn't help but respect the man, even though he was losing it a bit mentally by the end. of his second term.

Glad to hear that you don't consider yourself a slave to the alphabet...
 
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Yeah, thanks a lot. More importantly, this creates an opening on the CE board chess team. Perhaps, the profoundly stupid people who were excluded a few months ago can step up.

My roster still has @bac2therac @Knight Shift @vic_torre42 .

Now the boys who can move up are @ashokan who pisses away his life posting Qanon conspiracy BS in absurd quantities of word. @BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine who, stepping up from the checker team where he is 0-lifetime, is admittedly a bit of a reach, but let's make America great. Finally, we have @RUBOB72 who was the first to begin personal attacks in this thread in the first couple of pages.

Why don't we see which one can post the most idiotic thing ever?
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lulZ I've buried you in every debate. Anyway, weak insults from a moron like you are as relevant as the lamest lame duck in POTUS history riding off to the Alzheimer's Wing of Sunrise Nursing Home.
 
WhichReligionIsRight said:
I'm going to note this just once, then get on with my life. The Dem troops might or might not unite around Kamala, but in any case this is almost unprecedented. In '68, LBJ dropped out in late March and the presumptive nominee, RFK, was murdered in early June. As we know, HHH got the nomination, but McCarthy was a credible contender. Ultimately, George Wallace ran as a third party (Segregationist plank) and took the folks we would now call Trumplicans with him. Nixon narrowly won.

EDIT: Back in '68, Southern Conservatives (i.e., segregationists, former slavers), pretty much all voted Democratic from before the Civil War up to around 1970-1980. They now pretty much all vote Republican. End edit.
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Wrong. I mean if Trump was such a racist why is he winning over blacks and Hispanics in record numbers. Be better.
 
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ScarletNut said:
Yea, all those lawyers for the 60+ plus lawsuits couldn't find the same evidence that ashokan listed and the Dem and Rep judges presiding in those cases couldn't either. Those lawyers should retake their bar exams, maybe ashokan can tutor them. The internet and social media has just really f****d up this country.
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Did you not read the restrictions Bidunce's doj placed on investigating possible vbm fraud, or just don't have the critical-thinking skills to understand that connection to the actual vbm ballot process?
 
bac2therac said:
Well the media and msm got exactly what they deserved for this 4 year charade
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America is paying the price for the monstrous Biden lie​

Joe Biden has bowed to the inevitable, and abandoned his attempt at re-election. It was a decision that should have been made four years ago in his first election campaign.

Even back then in 2020, there were clear concerns about the Democratic nominee’s age and health. But the Democratic party, with the active connivance of sections of the US media, worked overtime to cast any such concerns as nothing more than Republican slurs, and Mr Biden won the election.

Questions about his health, however, never quite went away. Clips of the President stumbling, misspeaking or appearing visibly confused continued to circulate for the duration of his term, in each case defused by helpful allies across the press, dismissed as “cheapfakes” or labelled “misinformation".

The shift in the public perception of Mr Biden’s mental state appears to have resulted in something close to absolute panic within the power structures of Democratic politics. It is possible to deny something that everyone knows, so long as you can maintain the idea that other people haven’t noticed, and punish those who speak out of line.

But this requires a coordination mechanism, and in this case, that appears to have been the idea that Mr Biden represented the best chance of maintaining Democratic control of the White House. The moment that wavered, the message discipline went with it, with a sudden burst of briefing about the President’s health released to Left-leaning organisations which had previously maintained the party line that there was “nothing to see here”.

The price for winning power with what looks, to the outside, like a deliberate strategy of deception is now being paid. The Democratic party has a little over 100 days to find a new nominee, install them, sort out their campaign financing, make their case to the American people – and seek forgiveness for the last four years.
 
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