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OT: Rutgers faculty union calls strike
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Where'd you see that (link?), as I don't see it in the link or images below of their demands?
Summary of Opening Bargaining Proposals - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Below is a summary of bargaining proposals submitted to management—the bullet points are linked to pdfs of proposed contract language. Proposals marked with an asterisk (*) have not been submitted and will be added to this summary as they become available. 1. Promoting Equity Consistent with...
rutgersaaup.org
Interesting theory.
Now, how would they be able to improve their employment situation ? Begging ?
get rid of tenure and no way on contracts for salaried employees
lol, fking commies want guarantees no one else has for a job anyone can do
lol, fking commies want guarantees no one else has for a job anyone can do
Adjunct faculty & grad students are particularly abused. Especially the adjuncts.
I saw it in an earlier report from NJ.com, now memoryholed, but you could argue it fits under the "Housing justice..." bullet point.Where'd you see that (link?), as I don't see it in the link or images below of their demands?
Summary of Opening Bargaining Proposals - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Below is a summary of bargaining proposals submitted to management—the bullet points are linked to pdfs of proposed contract language. Proposals marked with an asterisk (*) have not been submitted and will be added to this summary as they become available. 1. Promoting Equity Consistent with...
Normally to hear such astute commentary I'd have to hang at the local VFW or American Legion and sit near the drunkest guy with the poorest education.
Yeah...that never works out very well for the union people.
Try again.
Wouldn't you know, same old righty anti-union posters, who know next to nothing about the union movement, labor relations, or collective bargaining throwing around their usual prejoritives like "commies", lazy etc.
The MAGAs are out in force!
Where'd you see that (link?), as I don't see it in the link or images below of their demands?
Summary of Opening Bargaining Proposals - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Below is a summary of bargaining proposals submitted to management—the bullet points are linked to pdfs of proposed contract language. Proposals marked with an asterisk (*) have not been submitted and will be added to this summary as they become available. 1. Promoting Equity Consistent with...
"Grad workers, postdocs, and new faculty burdened by skyrocketing rents in one of the most expensive areas of the country need Rutgers to freeze housing costs. But we also know our future is bound together with the future of our students and the communities where we work and live. The fight for a better Rutgers is a fight for them, too.
Since 2018, our union has been working with students and community organizations such as New Labor and Cosecha to understand the immense impact that Rutgers has in the cities where our campuses are located, especially New Brunswick. When Rutgers sets high prices for room and board, other landlords also raise rent, and developers are encouraged to build unaffordable luxury housing. Together, a coalition of students, Rutgers employees, and community members produced a report, titled “R Homes R Community,” that helped us come up with our contract demands."
Here’s How Our Union Is Fighting for the Common Good - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Takeaway: Take the 2023 Strike Pledge (if you haven’t already) to show management we are ready to act to win a fair contract. Join students, our community allies, and your colleagues for a Housing Justice Town Hall on Wednesday, February 15, at 6:30 p.m. at the College Avenue Community Church...
rutgersaaup.org
Just to clarify, I am not against workers striking, unions, or collective bargaining. I am also skeptical of the hiring of ADJUNCTs to fill the roles of tenured professors.
But, when we are talking about grad students and part timers who have other full-time jobs, I get a bit skeptical. Some of these folks will be writing theses that do not move the needle much for the good of humanity, but rather feed into echo chambers, and then will enjoy nice jobs with excellent benefits and work/life balance at Rutgers or elsewhere. I went to grad school, I paid my dues. You are getting tuition help AND a modest salary. If they want to fight for more tuition help, a bit more job security, and a few thousand extra bucks, so be it.
But, trying to garauntee a job semester to semester (course offerings change, other ppl want to work too ), being unreasonable with salary demands if it doesn't work w the university budget, and all the extra left wing stuff tossed in, makes me almost think the political undercurrent of this faculty has caused a strike before one was truly needed or warranted, and MIGHT be in bad faith just a bit.
I do also feel for the workers at the medical schools, as I understand they have not had a contract in some time.
Overall, I hope it all gets worked out. But I could do without the extra culture war references in the demands and even the marketing. It's not a great way to gain support around the community. It leads me, again, to believe some of this is cultural in terms of an admiration for Marxist ways of thinking/identity etc. Again, I heard at least 2 current faculty members on the radio today referencing President Holloway's race and academic background in social justice issues, as if that should have some bearing on him doing his job rationally. Rubs me quite wrong. And with student loan debt and tuition through the roof, I'm a bit iffy on a ton of financial demands being in the interest of the students.
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Thanks"Grad workers, postdocs, and new faculty burdened by skyrocketing rents in one of the most expensive areas of the country need Rutgers to freeze housing costs. But we also know our future is bound together with the future of our students and the communities where we work and live. The fight for a better Rutgers is a fight for them, too.
Since 2018, our union has been working with students and community organizations such as New Labor and Cosecha to understand the immense impact that Rutgers has in the cities where our campuses are located, especially New Brunswick. When Rutgers sets high prices for room and board, other landlords also raise rent, and developers are encouraged to build unaffordable luxury housing. Together, a coalition of students, Rutgers employees, and community members produced a report, titled “R Homes R Community,” that helped us come up with our contract demands."
Here’s How Our Union Is Fighting for the Common Good - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Takeaway: Take the 2023 Strike Pledge (if you haven’t already) to show management we are ready to act to win a fair contract. Join students, our community allies, and your colleagues for a Housing Justice Town Hall on Wednesday, February 15, at 6:30 p.m. at the College Avenue Community Church...
The (panties in a twist) radical LIBS are out flexing their (his/her) political power struggle.
It seems as if this thread is a reflection of the negotiations thus far - would be nice if people could actually discuss and come to a consensus, instead of calling names and throwing temper tantrums.
While this is great sentiment that I generally agree with (supply/demand, gentrification, etc) - I don't see any action or concrete request from the Union on this matter other than "housing justice" - okay, how do we make steps to make that happen?"Grad workers, postdocs, and new faculty burdened by skyrocketing rents in one of the most expensive areas of the country need Rutgers to freeze housing costs. But we also know our future is bound together with the future of our students and the communities where we work and live. The fight for a better Rutgers is a fight for them, too.
Since 2018, our union has been working with students and community organizations such as New Labor and Cosecha to understand the immense impact that Rutgers has in the cities where our campuses are located, especially New Brunswick. When Rutgers sets high prices for room and board, other landlords also raise rent, and developers are encouraged to build unaffordable luxury housing. Together, a coalition of students, Rutgers employees, and community members produced a report, titled “R Homes R Community,” that helped us come up with our contract demands."
Here’s How Our Union Is Fighting for the Common Good - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Takeaway: Take the 2023 Strike Pledge (if you haven’t already) to show management we are ready to act to win a fair contract. Join students, our community allies, and your colleagues for a Housing Justice Town Hall on Wednesday, February 15, at 6:30 p.m. at the College Avenue Community Church...
As I've said earlier in this thread, some of the dollar and cents things make sense, but some of these other issues are much larger - and won't be solved through a strike.
Most important reform for K-12 and higher education.
Oh yeah! Marxist!!! How about those huge, relative to teaching, sports department & coaching salaries & budgets. How, in your view, do they square with student loan debt, tuition through the roof & the interests of the students."Grad workers, postdocs, and new faculty burdened by skyrocketing rents in one of the most expensive areas of the country need Rutgers to freeze housing costs. But we also know our future is bound together with the future of our students and the communities where we work and live. The fight for a better Rutgers is a fight for them, too.
Since 2018, our union has been working with students and community organizations such as New Labor and Cosecha to understand the immense impact that Rutgers has in the cities where our campuses are located, especially New Brunswick. When Rutgers sets high prices for room and board, other landlords also raise rent, and developers are encouraged to build unaffordable luxury housing. Together, a coalition of students, Rutgers employees, and community members produced a report, titled “R Homes R Community,” that helped us come up with our contract demands."
Here’s How Our Union Is Fighting for the Common Good - Rutgers AAUP-AFT
Takeaway: Take the 2023 Strike Pledge (if you haven’t already) to show management we are ready to act to win a fair contract. Join students, our community allies, and your colleagues for a Housing Justice Town Hall on Wednesday, February 15, at 6:30 p.m. at the College Avenue Community Church...
Just to clarify, I am not against workers striking, unions, or collective bargaining. I am also skeptical of the hiring of ADJUNCTs to fill the roles of tenured professors.
But, when we are talking about grad students and part timers who have other full-time jobs, I get a bit skeptical. Some of these folks will be writing theses that do not move the needle much for the good of humanity, but rather feed into echo chambers, and then will enjoy nice jobs with excellent benefits and work/life balance at Rutgers or elsewhere. I went to grad school, I paid my dues. You are getting tuition help AND a modest salary. If they want to fight for more tuition help, a bit more job security, and a few thousand extra bucks, so be it.
But, trying to garauntee a job semester to semester (course offerings change, other ppl want to work too ), being unreasonable with salary demands if it doesn't work w the university budget, and all the extra left wing stuff tossed in, makes me almost think the political undercurrent of this faculty has caused a strike before one was truly needed or warranted, and MIGHT be in bad faith just a bit.
I do also feel for the workers at the medical schools, as I understand they have not had a contract in some time.
Overall, I hope it all gets worked out. But I could do without the extra culture war references in the demands and even the marketing. It's not a great way to gain support around the community. It leads me, again, to believe some of this is cultural in terms of an admiration for Marxist ways of thinking/identity etc. Again, I heard at least 2 current faculty members on the radio today referencing President Holloway's race and academic background in social justice issues, as if that should have some bearing on him doing his job rationally. Rubs me quite wrong. And with student loan debt and tuition through the roof, I'm a bit iffy on a ton of financial demands being in the interest of the students.
I do not understand the constant leftist gaslighting. Anything pointed out regarding their affinity for socialism, proliferation of critical theories in curriculums, etc. is treated as myth and a straw man. Mind you, I'm a left-leaning centrist, who just so happens to have been a former lefty who has gotten more centrist due to the blatant lack of logic, dogma, and gaslighting of the left. Are we going to pretend there is no Marxist sentiment at all behind this strike/situation, or the culture at Rutgers overall?
As to coaching salaries, they have little effect on student tuition, and/or pale in comparison to university-wide salary expenses. Even if they did affect those things, the highest paid coaches, namely men's basketball and football, pay for themselves and generate income for the school. .it is the smaller sports that put the school in the red moreso. Even still, those programs aren't the ones saying that they are "fighting for students" when negotiating their coaching salaries. These strikers are pretending this is about the students. Just disingenuous, aside from the grad teachers involved in the strike themselves.
But, again, proving my point regarding the cultural leftist stuff in general. Attacking sports and athletics but being overtly concerned with gentrification, which have nothing to do with the four corners of union/administration dealings.
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We are a non-civil service town, never allowed banking of sick or vacation days, and don't use a Police Chief (only Police Director).
:)
NJEA is a criminal organization and needs to be taken out
Seems like some here feel employees should accept the will of management instead of demanding :
Fair working conditions, compensation, and pay equality
Also don't like the idea of tenure because the tenure mechanisms that prevented qualified educators from being punished for their personal biases, political beliefs, or other unfair reasons
Without tenure the religion practiced , or being an atheist, would be fair game to those with firing power to get rid of those that don't believe as they do and also get rid of the ones that defend groups , or were members, that are not like the ones that the people in charge accept.
Hell a long time ago those damm unions forced young children to leave the factories they were working at and the cry was the families couldn't afford the loss of income.
Though the truth was, the owners didn't want to hire adults to do the job because they would demand better wages than the children were making.
When it comes to unions demanding fair deals, there are always those who try to oppose it and act like the workers are in the wrong.
Fair working conditions, compensation, and pay equality
Also don't like the idea of tenure because the tenure mechanisms that prevented qualified educators from being punished for their personal biases, political beliefs, or other unfair reasons
Without tenure the religion practiced , or being an atheist, would be fair game to those with firing power to get rid of those that don't believe as they do and also get rid of the ones that defend groups , or were members, that are not like the ones that the people in charge accept.
Hell a long time ago those damm unions forced young children to leave the factories they were working at and the cry was the families couldn't afford the loss of income.
Though the truth was, the owners didn't want to hire adults to do the job because they would demand better wages than the children were making.
When it comes to unions demanding fair deals, there are always those who try to oppose it and act like the workers are in the wrong.
That’s fine. But the subject was teacher tenure. You wrote that it’s the “most important reform for K-12 and higher education.” If it is indeed the most important K-12 reform then it’s a good question to ask you what you did to reform it when you were mayor.
FWIW - I agree that some reform should be made. But I rarely see any elected officials doing anything about it
Just whack a couple of the ringleaders and see them all scurry back to their desks, corduroy jackets and all.
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Are you decent with math and spreadsheets? I can get you an interview at my company. Entry level pays around $50k plus benefits.
If your goal in life is to be an academic then you have to pay your dues in that field. By the way, how are TA's and grad assistants paid $10/hr when the minimum wage in New Jersey is $14.13? Sounds like BS to me...
I wasn't the BOE President (thank goodness). Apples and oranges. Regardless, one thing to remember, even without tenure there are employment/HR laws everyone needs to follow. You can't fire people without cause. Yes, you can eliminate positions and layoff workers, but even this has significant regulations.
lol you don't see the problem or issue here do you?
if that is their choice, if they are so desperate to try and get a teaching gig that they'll do this hoping to catch on somewhere then great but it's their choice. At some point, those teachers or 'real world losers' will need to grow up and become productive members of society and stop living off the scraps of Longshanks' table
Legally, colleges and universities in New Jersey are exempt from having to pay the full minimum wage to student workers if the compensation paid is at a minimum of 85% of the state minimum wage
So $12 an hour is probably what's being paid
or known as standing up for each other.Agreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
Instead of letting one person suffer abuse and be able to do nothing about it
That's what unions are for and why collective bargaining is better then one individual taking on management by themself over wages and working conditions.
Working for the good of all , instead of everyone for themselves, isn't marxisim. It is what management/employee relationship should be about and one person on their own can not how the strength of co workers acting as one when negotiating a contract.
Those girls are cute. Maybe I'll go join the picket line tmrrwAgreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
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