Agreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
This is not Marxist symbology. Get a life.
Agreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
The adjuncts and TAs are getting paid peanuts. Definitely not a living wage. They don’t receive benefits and they are teaching more and more courses. They do the same amount of work for a 1/4 of the payment. Not just RU, but all universities and colleges are taking advantage of the adjuncts snd TAs. Ok
You're right. People told to wear masks acted like they were being loaded onto trains for Auschwitz. People who lose elections call for angry mobs to ransack our capitol to overturn them. A governor who gets disagreement from a corporation goes on a rampage against said corporation. Politicians who see a guy in a dress reading stories to children shriek about grooming. There is manufactured drama everywhere.We live in a cosplay world. We as a society have soooo little adversity that we need to create it.
People wanna pretend theyre civil rights leaders and world changers. Theyre all cosplay actors. Look at how those expelled politicians in nashville acted. They pretended they were MLK himself. Fists in the air, changing up voice tonality, changing attire. It was pathetic.
These faculty members now want their spotlight moment. They wanna pretend theyre someone.
Why is she holding a #metoo sign?Those girls are cute. Maybe I'll go join the picket line tmrrw
They're laughably predictable and angry. Every generation of conservatives tries to fight change and tries to preserve the world they grew up in, which was a world the prior generation of conservatives hated and fought to prevent. And every generation of conservatives can't figure this out.The grumpy old man group is out in FORCE today! Way to go, guys! You show those whippersnappers what's wrong in America today!
Nice try!I do not understand the constant leftist gaslighting. Anything pointed out regarding their affinity for socialism, proliferation of critical theories in curriculums, etc. is treated as myth and a straw man. Mind you, I'm a left-leaning centrist, who just so happens to have been a former lefty who has gotten more centrist due to the blatant lack of logic, dogma, and gaslighting of the left. Are we going to pretend there is no Marxist sentiment at all behind this strike/situation, or the culture at Rutgers overall?
As to coaching salaries, they have little effect on student tuition, and/or pale in comparison to university-wide salary expenses. Even if they did affect those things, the highest paid coaches, namely men's basketball and football, pay for themselves and generate income for the school. .it is the smaller sports that put the school in the red moreso. Even still, those programs aren't the ones saying that they are "fighting for students" when negotiating their coaching salaries. These strikers are pretending this is about the students. Just disingenuous, aside from the grad teachers involved in the strike themselves.
But, again, proving my point regarding the cultural leftist stuff in general. Attacking sports and athletics but being overtly concerned with gentrification, which have nothing to do with the four corners of union/administration dealings.
They don't have a clue. Just throw words around.This is not Marxist symbology. Get a life.
And people who saw someone not wearing a mask or refusing to get a shot called for them to lose their jobs and become homeless.You're right. People told to wear masks acted like they were being loaded onto trains for Auschwitz. People who lose elections call for angry mobs to ransack our capitol to overturn them. A governor who gets disagreement from a corporation goes on a rampage against said corporation. Politicians who see a guy in a dress reading stories to children shriek about grooming. There is manufactured drama everywhere.
you can't argue with an zealot and he's a zealotAnd people who saw someone not wearing a mask or refusing to get a shot called for them to lose their jobs and become homeless.
People who lost elections put together a now factually proven conspiracy theory that the winner colluded with russia to win and harped on it for now 7 straight years.
And a governor who got disagreement from businesses shut their water and electricity off, stripped them of their business license and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars.
;)
I know. It's hilarious. 🤣😁🤣CE board regulars having a meltdown the past few days with the 10 commandments thread, Kapernick thread, and this one. 🍿🍿
Agreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
Nice try!
This is not Marxist symbology. Get a life.
Groucho or Chico ?Agreed.
And the Marxist branding is undeniable:
rampant inflation is to blame. People tend to spend near what they make no matter the level of income... wanting to afford the best lifestyle they have earned. Inflation puts pressures on their budgets. So they need/want more income. So, all these ridiculous spending bills in the last few years are to blame... imo, of course.
students should go heckle and out-shout the profs. bring bullhorns.
"you got paid we need R grades!"
"you cry about pay while we get taught by your G-A!"
"don't be a jerk - get back to work!"
"get off your ass - get back to class!"
April 10, 2023 Dear Members of the Rutgers Community, I think that it is important that you receive regular, accurate updates with respect to the strike that has been called by three of our faculty unions. As you know, after several weeks of intense negotiations, mediators from the State were asked, beginning last Friday, to sit in on our contract negotiations with the AAUP-AFT, Rutgers Adjunct Faculty Union, and AAUP-BHSNJ. By Sunday afternoon it was clear that the outstanding issues were not moving toward resolution, and Governor Murphy summoned our negotiators and the negotiators from our faculty unions to meet in the Statehouse, along with representatives of his office, to come to an agreement. We are encouraged by Governor Murphy’s request and genuinely welcome his leadership. We are hopeful that we can quickly come to a resolution of the remaining outstanding issues. The Governor also asked me personally to delay taking legal action asking the courts to order strikers back to work. I agreed to the Governor’s important request while it appears that progress can be made. Obviously, if there is no movement towards an agreement, we will have no choice but to take legal action to assure the continued academic progress of our students and prevent irreparable harm. This is especially important for the thousands of students who are finishing their academic careers at Rutgers and are only a few weeks away from earning their degrees. Negotiations at the Statehouse began at about noon today and are continuing. In the meantime, our campuses are open and operating, including all academic buildings and libraries. We encourage students to continue attending their classes and doing their coursework, and we ask faculty and staff to continue doing their work as we carry out the business of the university. As a final but important note, we did receive reports today of classes being disrupted by protesters. In one instance, protesters actually entered a class where a critical exam was being conducted. While I respect the right of people to peacefully protest, there is no excuse for interfering with classes being taught by faculty who are choosing to continue with their jobs and meet their obligations to our students. I hope the union leadership will join me in urging their members to be respectful of our students and supportive of their academic progress. Sincerely, Jonathan Holloway President and University Professor |
It’s not BS. The Universities and Colleges pay Adjuncts a rate per credit. But I’m sure you know, because you sound quite intelligent and important, that a lot more goes into teaching than just showing up to teach a class. A LOT goes into the preparation to teach a class and A LOT goes into what happens after the class is over for the day. When you take into consideration all the hours before, after, and during the teaching of the class that are needed into delivering a successful learning experience for students, the hourly rate is $10 per hour. Hard to believe, but, it’s true. Furthermore, there is no “paying your dues,” as you mention because no adjuncts are ever promoted. The majority of adjuncts work 30 years as an adjunct without ever gettting promoted until they finally collect social security. Facts! The educational model in the United States has changed. Your children who attend university are being taught by adjuncts who don’t even make a living wage. When full-time professors retire or leave the university/college, they just hire more adjuncts to replace the full-time professors. There are more adjuncts teaching on campus than full-time professors.Are you decent with math and spreadsheets? I can get you an interview at my company. Entry level pays around $50k plus benefits.
If your goal in life is to be an academic then you have to pay your dues in that field. By the way, how are TA's and grad assistants paid $10/hr when the minimum wage in New Jersey is $14.13? Sounds like BS to me...
Let me interrupt with the latest from President Holloway:
April 10, 2023
Dear Members of the Rutgers Community,
I think that it is important that you receive regular, accurate updates with respect to the strike that has been called by three of our faculty unions.
As you know, after several weeks of intense negotiations, mediators from the State were asked, beginning last Friday, to sit in on our contract negotiations with the AAUP-AFT, Rutgers Adjunct Faculty Union, and AAUP-BHSNJ. By Sunday afternoon it was clear that the outstanding issues were not moving toward resolution, and Governor Murphy summoned our negotiators and the negotiators from our faculty unions to meet in the Statehouse, along with representatives of his office, to come to an agreement.
We are encouraged by Governor Murphy’s request and genuinely welcome his leadership. We are hopeful that we can quickly come to a resolution of the remaining outstanding issues.
The Governor also asked me personally to delay taking legal action asking the courts to order strikers back to work. I agreed to the Governor’s important request while it appears that progress can be made.
Obviously, if there is no movement towards an agreement, we will have no choice but to take legal action to assure the continued academic progress of our students and prevent irreparable harm. This is especially important for the thousands of students who are finishing their academic careers at Rutgers and are only a few weeks away from earning their degrees.
Negotiations at the Statehouse began at about noon today and are continuing.
In the meantime, our campuses are open and operating, including all academic buildings and libraries. We encourage students to continue attending their classes and doing their coursework, and we ask faculty and staff to continue doing their work as we carry out the business of the university.
As a final but important note, we did receive reports today of classes being disrupted by protesters. In one instance, protesters actually entered a class where a critical exam was being conducted. While I respect the right of people to peacefully protest, there is no excuse for interfering with classes being taught by faculty who are choosing to continue with their jobs and meet their obligations to our students. I hope the union leadership will join me in urging their members to be respectful of our students and supportive of their academic progress.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Holloway
President and University Professor
he should go to the courts now as his job is to protect the universityLet me interrupt with the latest from President Holloway:
April 10, 2023
Dear Members of the Rutgers Community,
I think that it is important that you receive regular, accurate updates with respect to the strike that has been called by three of our faculty unions.
As you know, after several weeks of intense negotiations, mediators from the State were asked, beginning last Friday, to sit in on our contract negotiations with the AAUP-AFT, Rutgers Adjunct Faculty Union, and AAUP-BHSNJ. By Sunday afternoon it was clear that the outstanding issues were not moving toward resolution, and Governor Murphy summoned our negotiators and the negotiators from our faculty unions to meet in the Statehouse, along with representatives of his office, to come to an agreement.
We are encouraged by Governor Murphy’s request and genuinely welcome his leadership. We are hopeful that we can quickly come to a resolution of the remaining outstanding issues.
The Governor also asked me personally to delay taking legal action asking the courts to order strikers back to work. I agreed to the Governor’s important request while it appears that progress can be made.
Obviously, if there is no movement towards an agreement, we will have no choice but to take legal action to assure the continued academic progress of our students and prevent irreparable harm. This is especially important for the thousands of students who are finishing their academic careers at Rutgers and are only a few weeks away from earning their degrees.
Negotiations at the Statehouse began at about noon today and are continuing.
In the meantime, our campuses are open and operating, including all academic buildings and libraries. We encourage students to continue attending their classes and doing their coursework, and we ask faculty and staff to continue doing their work as we carry out the business of the university.
As a final but important note, we did receive reports today of classes being disrupted by protesters. In one instance, protesters actually entered a class where a critical exam was being conducted. While I respect the right of people to peacefully protest, there is no excuse for interfering with classes being taught by faculty who are choosing to continue with their jobs and meet their obligations to our students. I hope the union leadership will join me in urging their members to be respectful of our students and supportive of their academic progress.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Holloway
President and University Professor
Big yikesLibs gonna Lib. Now you say they need a pay increase for inflation caused by Libs....
Oh, really?This is not Marxist symbology. Get a life.
Oh, really?
From the Encyclopedia of Marxism:
"An injury to one is an injury to all"
"
Industrial Workers of the World
The IWW was founded in Chicago in June 1905 at a convention of two hundred socialists, anarchists, and radical trade unionists from all over the United States (mainly the Western Federation of Miners) who were opposed to the policies of the American Federation of Labor (AFL). An injury to one is an injury to all.
The convention, which took place on June 27, 1905, was then referred to as the “Industrial Congress” or the “Industrial Union Convention”—it would later be known as the First Annual Convention of the IWW. It is considered one of the most important events in the history of industrial unionism and of the American labor movement in general.
The IWW’s early organizers included William D. (“Big Bill”) Haywood, Daniel De Leon, Eugene V. Debs, Thomas J Hagerty, Lucy Parsons, Mary Harris Jones (commonly known as “Mother Jones”), William Trautmann, Vincent Saint John, Ralph Chaplin, and many others."
"Socialist Party of America involvement
For many years, Haywood was an active member of the Socialist Party of America. Haywood had always been largely Marxist in his political views"
Bill Haywood - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
If that’s all true, then why are people taking the jobs? Why is there a huge supply of adjunct processors ready to work?It’s not BS. The Universities and Colleges pay Adjuncts a rate per credit. But I’m sure you know, because you sound quite intelligent and important, that a lot more goes into teaching than just showing up to teach a class. A LOT goes into the preparation to teach a class and A LOT goes into what happens after the class is over for the day. When you take into consideration all the hours before, after, and during the teaching of the class that are needed into delivering a successful learning experience for students, the hourly rate is $10 per hour. Hard to believe, but, it’s true. Furthermore, there is no “paying your dues,” as you mention because no adjuncts are ever promoted. The majority of adjuncts work 30 years as an adjunct without ever gettting promoted until they finally collect social security. Facts! The educational model in the United States has changed. Your children who attend university are being taught by adjuncts who don’t even make a living wage. When full-time professors retire or leave the university/college, they just hire more adjuncts to replace the full-time professors. There are more adjuncts teaching on campus than full-time professors.
While we’re raising tuition — can we level the river dorms for while we’re at it and rebuild those in grand lux fashion too?They’ll end up coming to an agreement, the professors and grad students will get a healthy raise and tuition will go up, this thread won’t change that.
Without making any comments on the validity of each side in the negotiations, I do think it’s funny from a purely comedic timing perspective that the strike happened to start during the first warm week of the year.
I want the monorailWhile we’re raising tuition — can we level the river dorms for while we’re at it and rebuild those in grand lux fashion too?
While we’re raising tuition — can we level the river dorms for while we’re at it and rebuild those in grand lux fashion too?
you can't argue with an zealot and he's a zealot
They know about as much about Marxism as they do about Christianity or the Constitution: whatever Fox told them.They don't have a clue. Just throw words around.
Morons stereotypeThey know about as much about Marxism as they do about Christianity or the Constitution: whatever Fox told them.
Lol! In my very first lab in Ceramic Engineering I made a ceramic shot glass. While you could specialize in traditional ceramics, everything else was in very cutting edge advanced materials (electronic ceramics, fiber optics, composites, battery technologies, and much more). We were 3D printing in ceramics in the late 90s! But even the traditional ceramics is very physics based....Ceramic engineering always sounded like a super pottery class! :)
But big congrats on landing the future wife. My RU wife came at the tail end of my RU MBA program.
Weird, right?If that’s all true, then why are people taking the jobs? Why is there a huge supply of adjunct processors ready to work?
Those girls are cute. Maybe I'll go join the picket line tmrrw
Everyone who follows the educational system at any level knows the money is in the administration. Principals, administrators, consultants, they have always made the money in education. Here is another secret, hospital administrators can make a lot more money than some of the doctors.Universities are no longer hiring full time tenured professors, A report on adjuncts says many make less than $3,500 per course and live in poverty. while administrators positions and salaries have skyrocketed.
New report says many adjuncts make less than $3,500 per course and $25,000 per year
New report on adjuncts says many make less than $3,500 per course and live in poverty.www.insidehighered.com