Lol Palm? Indiana is in with a big ten tourney win. Gtown has no shot and Creighton has to make BE finals
OT: Serious Question - Should any BE team make the Tourney?
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And Rutger's NET is basically the same as the last place team in the Big East. So, says a lot about where your program is.
Its not about Rutgers..we are talking about the trash that is the Big east..you might not even have a ranked team tomorrow
Keep deflecting
I always knew shu fans were pricks
Keep deflecting
I always knew shu fans were pricks
You’ve said this about 5-10 times now. Every team is above .500 overall, there’s no bad team in the entire conference.
It’s not even close to as bad as the Pac 12 and almost every team graduates nobody of significance. Also, out of conference games exist and make up about 40% of your entire schedule. It’s not like the big east got demolished in that respect and had some terrific wins against elite teams. Just because the conference is eating itself alive doesn’t mean it’s a bad conference
Do you just ignore the embarrassing basketball IQ of your own fans? It’s almost like your fans haven’t seen good basketball in 3 decades
Seton Hall fan who wrote Pikiell was paying people, moron. He still was a moron.
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Oh, please. Anyone who thinks rutgers paid extra money for a solid recruiting class is a troll, not a fan.
I will be the first to admit that, after producing 2 #1 seeds last year, and the National Champions, the Big East is lacking in elite teams--very true. But to claim that RU would be the 4th-best team in the BE is crazy and to dismiss the conference as "garbage" (and to resort to name-calling) betrays a kind of weird malice towards the conference. Conference in 5th in RPI and 5th in NET. Probably going to send 4 teams, 40% of Conference to dance. No teams with a losing record.
Goes in spurts Big East was due for a down year has had a bunch of good ones in a row. Big was horrible last year very good this year The people thinking the Big East is going away are clueless. Georgetown and Providence both start Freshman backcourt is their really anyone who does not think they will be good down the line. Btw I know someone will come back saying Rutgers is young too. I agree should be good down the line
Conference is down but everybody over .500. So though not great at all it certainly was deep and competitive.
Any suggestion that confernce is horrible isn’t fair. SHU did beat Maryland and Kentucky and Powell is as good as any guard in the country.
Any suggestion that confernce is horrible isn’t fair. SHU did beat Maryland and Kentucky and Powell is as good as any guard in the country.
Especially in view of the fact th
And the RU record against the BE is ?
This thread is hilarious. The Big East is a good conference. That’s neither a compliment nor an insult. No great teams on top, and no garbage teams at the bottom. Frankly, Villanova somehow winning the regular season championship speaks volume about the inability of schools like Seton Hall and Marquette to flex their muscle and take advantage of a golden opportunity. The conference is nothing special, but it’s not a one bid mid major conference. As for talking about RU in the Big East, that’s just stupid to talk about how we’d finish in fourth. We had some nice moments in conference this year, but please we’re not consistent enough to talking hypotheticals like that
I agree with your statement regarding Marquette but SH lost 4 starters and 3 were 1000 point scorers.
There is no way they were going to contend for a title and were picked 8th in most preseason polls.
Willard should be the COY in the conference for the job he did this season.
Yeah, bit of a reach by mentioning SHU. Frankly, I completely forgot about the roster turnover when I said that. My bad
Totally absurd post saying Hall does not belong at this point . Someone who is usually a good poster can't put his hate for Seton Hall asides. BTW the Big is probably going to get 8 or 9. What you have to remember is the A10 may get only one team in at most two. Pac 12 probably only two that leaves bids for other conferences.
Proff & Friar, I don't hate SHU. I just never liked Hazell with his constant throwing out his leg into a defender and getting rewarded with three 3's. I attended the Prep and I use to be a big SHU fan. My opinion is based on SHU only being rated as # 59 in Kenpom and # 52 in Segarin. When RU had Billet & Hodgson they finished at # 42 in the RPI and didn't get selected for the NCAA. There are quite a few mid majors that will make the NCAA taking many of the 68 spots. Quite a few teams are ahead of SHU in those rankings and won't make it. I think they will probably make it but losing twice to Depaul is not good.
Reiterating again that I don't agree with the idea of the BE not getting any teams (or even be limited to one), it has still been a historically bad year for the conference and they need to spring back hard next season.
The Big Ten had a bad year last year, too... but still had a few Top 15 programs in Michigan/MSU/Purdue to carry the banner while the other teams retooled for a much stronger showing this season.
The BE is good/decent up and down the conference roster, but has no programs that are standouts - which could lead to the earliest exit from the tournament in conference history without some upsets.
In the five seasons since the Big East restructured, only Nova and Xavier have made it out of the Round of 32 (with Xavier losing twice in the Sweet 16, and Nova winning two championships). They'll need to pull off some upsets to get anyone to the second weekend this year, too.
The Big Ten had a bad year last year, too... but still had a few Top 15 programs in Michigan/MSU/Purdue to carry the banner while the other teams retooled for a much stronger showing this season.
The BE is good/decent up and down the conference roster, but has no programs that are standouts - which could lead to the earliest exit from the tournament in conference history without some upsets.
In the five seasons since the Big East restructured, only Nova and Xavier have made it out of the Round of 32 (with Xavier losing twice in the Sweet 16, and Nova winning two championships). They'll need to pull off some upsets to get anyone to the second weekend this year, too.
And the Big 10
Hasn’t won the Natty since 2000. And they certainly are a great conference in basketball.
The AAC won a NC in 2014, too... is that an argument that they're a great conference? Or just an argument that UConn had a great season?
The BE can't just be Nova and the Novettes.
my 2 cents.. BE is nothing special this year but certainly a deserving conf. given the overall play of teams across the country. Hall belongs with the season end results and I KNOW THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO MATTER anymore.
I player like Powell can carry them, although like (my new best friend) Mr. Choppin said I don't see any deep runs.
I player like Powell can carry them, although like (my new best friend) Mr. Choppin said I don't see any deep runs.
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The BE teams have had more reflected light to bask in than we have had the last several years, to be sure.
This is a pretty fair assessment. The league is down this year after losing a ton of talent to the draft last year and two of the top coaches. Lots of freshman talent and reloading recruiting classes. The New Big East is still a relatively young league and although Nova has two of the last three National Championships, the rest of the league needs to build on that. It's all about money (Fox) and getting/retaining the coaches. Jay Wright is the anchor, and there are a core group that see this as their destination job (Cooley at Providence and Ewing at Georgetown, etc.), IF you get coaches and you can pay them, you will get the players that want to play in a BB-only, urban focused league.
The question is who will emerge as the upper echelon and join Villanova to be that consistent 1-4 seed in the NCAA. IMO, Marquette (Wojo) and Georgetown (Ewing) are most likely, but time will tell. This year, SJU may have the most talented roster, but not sold as Mullin as a coach yet. I would not want to face them in the NCAA though if they make it in. Villanova and Marquette are likely 5/6 seeds, so they have a fighting chance to get through the first weekend.
The Fox deal works out to $4M per team per year, right? If the conference can go into the negotiating cycle on an upswing, that would certainly help with the getting coaches and paying them part.
The BE definitely needs an upper echelon to emerge. With the new quadrant system, it's tough when there are few Q1 opportunities in conference.
That's roughly the money, yes. The BET has done extremely well at the box office and ratings wise. That was a concern with the NBE not having Syracuse and UConn which normally filled the seats in person and on TV. It would be helpful for SJU to emerge as an elite program, but I'm not sold on Mullin as an elite coach.
Villanova's two NC's gave the league instant credibility at it's formation, but like you said, others need to step up and go deep each year.
I'm as big of a hater on the BE and shoe, but they deserve 3, maybe 4 teams in given how poor the bubble is this year: THE NOVA, Marquette, shoe, and Johnnies. At least 1 should play in Dayton in an at-large play-in game, and all but Nova and Marquette should be lower seeded teams. Time will tell if this what I predicted will happen after the BE split, that the remaining teams will eventually become on the caliber or just slightly better of the A-10.
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