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Didn’t someone just post an article that Tesla is putting in batteries from 2017 into 2021 models? Guess the lead isn’t that big.
You finally got your moment in the sun! Great sleuthing!
No, not really. Just another foot in mouth post to add to your list.
The vehicles you're referring to are a handful of demo cars that are listed under "existing inventory" rather than "custom order". The fact that they're using old packs in these demo cars is fully disclosed in the vehicle description. It's the end of quarter, end of year. They're trying to clear inventory. Volume production ramp of 4680s starts soon. Austin and Berlin will produce 100 GWh/year each. That lead is getting bigger.
 
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Agree. It's tiresome correcting you guys
Hard to keep up with tweedle dee and tweedle dum sometimes. LOL!

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Agreed. TSLA is 3-5 years ahead of anyone in the EV. And in 3-5 years when the others "catch-up", TSLA will be long, long gone and much more advanced.
The Chinese Communist Party has a 5 year plan to have Huawei produce 35% of all electric vehicles in China. In a battle of Xi vs Musk, I favor the one who doesn't go on twitter after bong hits.
 
The Chinese Communist Party has a 5 year plan to have Huawei produce 35% of all electric vehicles in China. In a battle of Xi vs Musk, I favor the one who doesn't go on twitter after bong hits.
Yeah, I'm sure they do. LOL!
 
The Chinese Communist Party has a 5 year plan to have Huawei produce 35% of all electric vehicles in China. In a battle of Xi vs Musk, I favor the one who doesn't go on twitter after bong hits.
Bong hits and tweets aside, Musk has proven to be the guy that brought EV's mainstream.
 
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What are you correcting? I don’t even have an issue with it because the article clearly stated it was disclosed. But using 2017 batteries in new cars, disclosed or not, for a company like Tesla, is nonsense.
I saw the headline but didn't read the story, how many cars are we talking?
 
I saw the headline but didn't read the story, how many cars are we talking?
It’s not clear. Apparently Tesla hasn’t given an answer yet. Or I couldn’t find it. The article is worth the read. The whole thing makes no sense. How does Tesla sell a 2021 EV with a 2017 battery? Isn’t the battery one of the most important parts of the car? Also, why does Tesla still have 2017 batteries in inventory - pushing 5 years old? Instead of the Teslarati’s knee-jerk reaction here to piss all over anyone that raises an issue, what’s the explanation?
 
It’s not clear. Apparently Tesla hasn’t given an answer yet. Or I couldn’t find it. The article is worth the read. The whole thing makes no sense. How does Tesla sell a 2021 EV with a 2017 battery? Isn’t the battery one of the most important parts of the car? Also, why does Tesla still have 2017 batteries in inventory - pushing 5 years old? Instead of the Teslarati’s knee-jerk reaction here to piss all over anyone that raises an issue, what’s the explanation?
Hello Pot, this is Kettle.

You are as knee-jerk as any pro-Tesla person on the board. You post any an all possibly negative news for TSLA with excitement and glee.
 
Hello Pot, this is Kettle.

You are as knee-jerk as any pro-Tesla person on the board. You post any an all possibly negative news for TSLA with excitement and glee.
BS…I have always said I liked Tesla as a company and market-leader BUT hate the stock based on speculative nonsense and will absolutely take the position that competition is here which will hurt Tesla’s chances of world dominance. By the way, we are still waiting on an explanation for why the top EV maker is using 2017 batteries in 2021 models (disclaimer or not).
 
BS…I have always said I liked Tesla as a company and market-leader BUT hate the stock based on speculative nonsense and will absolutely take the position that competition is here which will hurt Tesla’s chances of world dominance. By the way, we are still waiting on an explanation for why the top EV maker is using 2017 batteries in 2021 models (disclaimer or not).
^^^^^ LOL.
 
What are you correcting? I don’t even have an issue with it because the article clearly stated it was disclosed. But using 2017 batteries in new cars, disclosed or not, for a company like Tesla, is nonsense.
It's a typical FUD article from an anti Tesla site. Go on the Tesla site and see if you can find a demo car with an old pack. I couldn't find one in the entire tri-state area. So how many of these vehicles exist? 10? Maybe? They're getting rid of some oddball inventory. This isn't newsworthy. Yet, you guys run with the FUD as usual. Just like the many "trouble in China" articles.
 
It's a typical FUD article from an anti Tesla site. Go on the Tesla site and see if you can find a demo car with an old pack. I couldn't find one in the entire tri-state area. So how many of these vehicles exist? 10? Maybe? They're getting rid of some oddball inventory. This isn't newsworthy. Yet, you guys run with the FUD as usual. Just like the many "trouble in China" articles.
LOL. More non-sensical FUD. Not surprised!
 
Merry Christmas everyone! Here's a nice present (Tom Lee and John Brown chat about the market - both CNBC regulars):

 
Blow out holiday season!


Holiday sales rose at the fastest pace in 17 years, even as shoppers grappled with higher prices, product shortages and a raging new Covid-19 variant in the last few weeks of the season, according to one spending measure.

Mastercard SpendingPulse, which tracks all kinds of payments including cash and debit cards, reported Sunday that holiday sales had risen 8.5% from a year earlier. Mastercard SpendingPulse had expected a 7.4% increase.

The results, which covered Nov. 1 through Dec. 24, were fueled by purchases of clothing and jewelry.

Holiday sales were up 10.7% compared with the pre-pandemic 2019 holiday period.

By category, clothing rose 47%, jewelry 32%, electronics 16%. Online sales were up 11% from a year ago and 61% from 2019. Department stores registered a 21% increase over 2020.
 
The economy is strong
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Lots of companies making crazy money. Buy those stocks or broad market ETFs. Look for that nice balance.....value stocks that are growthy and growth stocks that are crushing earnings.
 
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It’s the trickle down effect. New car prices are crazy due to supply issues. There was an article predicting a big crash in used car market in late 2022.
Probably not a "crash" per say, just a return to normalcy for used cars.
 
The party is over! Our last 2 CDs with +2% rates mature next week. Oh well, perhaps time for a new game plan. Bond funds are not the place to be in 2022 with inflation and rising Fed rates. As with all financial choices now.....all roads point to equities or under the mattress.
 
The party is over! Our last 2 CDs with +2% rates mature next week. Oh well, perhaps time for a new game plan. Bond funds are not the place to be in 2022 with inflation and rising Fed rates. As with all financial choices now.....all roads point to equities or under the mattress.
BGS = who doesn’t like Mrs. Dash and Don Pepino sauce with a 6% dividend instead of CDs? I’m trying to find a reason not to buy B&G Foods for the stable value portion of my portfolio. Other than a quick meme pop, seems to hover in the same range for last 5+ years. Easy 6%?
 
BGS = who doesn’t like Mrs. Dash and Don Pepino sauce with a 6% dividend instead of CDs? I’m trying to find a reason not to buy B&G Foods for the stable value portion of my portfolio. Other than a quick meme pop, seems to hover in the same range for last 5+ years. Easy 6%?
Maybe I should buy some T! :)

These funds are not for individual stock plays. Perhaps VIG is the way too go. Low-volatility equity exposure with a 1.6% yield:

 
The party is over! Our last 2 CDs with +2% rates mature next week. Oh well, perhaps time for a new game plan. Bond funds are not the place to be in 2022 with inflation and rising Fed rates. As with all financial choices now.....all roads point to equities or under the mattress.
My mom CD, about 250k, with my name matured earlier in the year and I transferred it into a brokerage account and purchased mostly drugs companies PFE up 50%, ED up 13%, VTV 6%, JNJ up3.8%, MRK up3%, DIS down 15%, VZ down 8% FB flat and V up4%. Basically invested 140k and holding 100k for the stock market drop to purchase. Maybe invest in MSFT, GOOG, AMZN. She only wants safe dividend play but she said it really mine money( she 91). I’ll get the step up price when she passes.

Other CD in mom name with my siblings beneficiaries are still sitting in CD at .01%. Most are them are fully invested their assets in the market.

OH, saw my nephew at Christmas that lives in NY, he sold 1/2 million dollars of TESLA but brought GameStop, got scared and sold for a $40k lost and repurchased Tesla at $800. His $100k investment is now about 1.5 million.
 
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BGS = who doesn’t like Mrs. Dash and Don Pepino sauce with a 6% dividend instead of CDs? I’m trying to find a reason not to buy B&G Foods for the stable value portion of my portfolio. Other than a quick meme pop, seems to hover in the same range for last 5+ years. Easy 6%?
Yeah, I just saw that quick meme pop early in the year. Very weird. If you are looking for a good value/dividend stock, this seems to fit the bill. Stable stock price with a good yield. Can't ask for too much more!

But sell if another meme happens! LOL.
 
Maybe I should buy some T! :)

These funds are not for individual stock plays. Perhaps VIG is the way too go. Low-volatility equity exposure with a 1.6% yield:

Yield is too low for my taste. Plus, you are basically just buying stocks like MSFT and HD and a bunch of the usual suspects.
 
My mom CD, about 250k, with my name matured earlier in the year and I transferred it into a brokerage account and purchased mostly drugs companies PFE up 50%, ED up 13%, VTV 6%, JNJ up3.8%, MRK up3%, DIS down 15%, VZ down 8% FB flat and V up4%. Basically invested 140k and holding 100k for the stock market drop to purchase. Maybe invest in MSFT, GOOG, AMZN. She only wants safe dividend play but she said it really mine money( she 91). I’ll get the step up price when she passes.

Other CD in mom name with my siblings beneficiaries are still sitting in CD at .01%. Most are them are fully invested in the market.
As mentioned above, I will mostly dump this money in VIG, but perhaps a few individual div stock plays should be considered. VIG is a great strategy and worth reviewing its holdings:


Vanguard Dividend Appreciation focuses on quality franchises that have reliably increased the amount of cash they give back to shareholders over time. The fund’s new index utilizes a very similar approach that plies a near-identical strategy, while offering greater transparency and taking a more measured approach to rebalancing in order to minimize market impact costs. We maintain our Morningstar Analyst Rating of Gold for the U.S. share classes and Silver for the Canadian exchange-traded fund.

The fund will switch from the Nasdaq US Dividend Achievers Select Index to the S&P Dividend Growers Index in the third quarter of 2021. Both indexes sweep in stocks that have increased their dividend for at least 10 consecutive years and weight them by market cap. S&P replaces the undisclosed proprietary screen from the Nasdaq index with a simple, transparent yield screen. Both aim to remove stocks with high yields whose dividends might not be sustainable. The S&P index also spreads rebalancing trades over three days instead of one to mitigate market impact costs. While both are market-cap-weighted, S&P uses stocks’ float-adjusted market cap instead of total market cap to improve liquidity.

These stringent selection criteria yield a portfolio that balances income, capital appreciation, and risk. The long look-back period ensures constituents are stable companies with a proven track record, taking out even household names such as Intel INTC or Apple AAPL. S&P’s additional yield screen should continue to steer it further away from distressed companies, similar to how Nasdaq’s proprietary screen improved the portfolio’s earnings growth and profitability metrics. Thanks to this quality focus, a greater percentage of the portfolio is invested in stocks with a positive Morningstar Economic Moat Rating than the Russell 1000 Index. This dials down risk and will give the fund an edge in rocky markets.

The portfolio’s equity income orientation results in sector tilts. As of April 2021, it was overweight in industrials and consumer staples stocks and underweight in technology and energy.
 
Yield is too low for my taste. Plus, you are basically just buying stocks like MSFT and HD and a bunch of the usual suspects.
It's more a play to capture most of the equity market growth at lower volatility. The modest yield helps smooth the journey, but VIG is not a div income play.

But perhaps I will consider a few small div stock plays as well. :)
 
As mentioned above, I will mostly dump this money in VIG, but perhaps a few individual div stock plays should be considered. VIG is a great strategy and worth reviewing its holdings:


Vanguard Dividend Appreciation focuses on quality franchises that have reliably increased the amount of cash they give back to shareholders over time. The fund’s new index utilizes a very similar approach that plies a near-identical strategy, while offering greater transparency and taking a more measured approach to rebalancing in order to minimize market impact costs. We maintain our Morningstar Analyst Rating of Gold for the U.S. share classes and Silver for the Canadian exchange-traded fund.

The fund will switch from the Nasdaq US Dividend Achievers Select Index to the S&P Dividend Growers Index in the third quarter of 2021. Both indexes sweep in stocks that have increased their dividend for at least 10 consecutive years and weight them by market cap. S&P replaces the undisclosed proprietary screen from the Nasdaq index with a simple, transparent yield screen. Both aim to remove stocks with high yields whose dividends might not be sustainable. The S&P index also spreads rebalancing trades over three days instead of one to mitigate market impact costs. While both are market-cap-weighted, S&P uses stocks’ float-adjusted market cap instead of total market cap to improve liquidity.

These stringent selection criteria yield a portfolio that balances income, capital appreciation, and risk. The long look-back period ensures constituents are stable companies with a proven track record, taking out even household names such as Intel INTC or Apple AAPL. S&P’s additional yield screen should continue to steer it further away from distressed companies, similar to how Nasdaq’s proprietary screen improved the portfolio’s earnings growth and profitability metrics. Thanks to this quality focus, a greater percentage of the portfolio is invested in stocks with a positive Morningstar Economic Moat Rating than the Russell 1000 Index. This dials down risk and will give the fund an edge in rocky markets.

The portfolio’s equity income orientation results in sector tilts. As of April 2021, it was overweight in industrials and consumer staples stocks and underweight in technology and energy.
I might move some money into this fund. IT’s hard trying to figure where to park the money other than cash.
 
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It's more a play to capture most of the equity market growth at lower volatility. The modest yield helps smooth the journey, but VIG is not a div income play.

But perhaps I will consider a few small div stock plays as well. :)
If you believe Tom Lee, market up 4 times by 2029. Tom Lee and Jeremy Siegel are the ones I follow.
 
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If you believe Tom Lee, market up 4 times by 2029. Tom Lee and Jeremy Siegel are the ones I follow.
Tom Lee is my guy! See the wonderful video I posted above (#11980). Yes, JS is very good as well.

I completely agree with the cash issue. We have a ton of cash and our 2%+ CDs are done. We have been building our cash pile for a second home purchase, but can't just leave it all under the mattress. Dive into VIG and check it out.
 
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Tom Lee is my guy! See the wonderful video I posted above (#11980). Yes, JS is very good as well.

I completely agree with the cash issue. We have a ton of cash and our 2%+ CDs are done. We have been building our cash pile for a second home purchase, but can't just leave it all under the mattress. Dive into VIG and check it out.
I tend to look for quality stocks that have low PE and close to 52 week low and has a dividend. I recently been buying FDX Federal express. BRK B would be good if it went down a few points, with their high cash balance, they would know where the opportunities are to invest if there’s a 15-20% drop. The big Tech is where I feel safe AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, FB and AMZN.

I mentioned this to my nephew at Christmas that I thought MSFT peaked in the 1980 when I was in Seattle and look how much it increased. That’s how you should view AMZN, FB GOOG And AAPL, they aren’t going away in 20 years.
 
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I tend to look for quality stocks that have low PE and close to 52 week low and has a dividend. I recently been buying FDX Federal express. BRK B would be good if it went down a few points, with their high cash balance, they would know where the opportunities are to invest if there’s a 15-20% drop. The big Tech is where I feel safe AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, FB and AMZN.

I mentioned this to my nephew at Christmas that I thought MSFT peaked in the 1980 when I was in Seattle and look how much it increased. That’s how you should view AMZN, FB GOOG And AAPL, they aren’t going away in 20 years.
Speaking of BRK, what's the plan when WB kicks the bucket? Is there a successor?
 
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