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Shiller PE ratio for the S&P 500 @ Friday's close:

30.99 +0.43 (1.42%)​

4:00 PM EDT, Fri Jul 29
Mean:16.96
Median:15.88
Min:4.78(Dec 1920)
Max:44.19(Dec 1999)
 
Does this account for turnover in the S&P through the time frame?
FYI - S&P 500 P/E is back to the 30-year average of 16'ish. S&P 400 (mid-caps) and S&P 600 (small-caps) are at a sustained 20 year low of 12.5'ish.

The market is very cheap right now.
 
TSMC issues warning:

"In a rare interview with CNN that aired Monday, TSMC chairman Mark Liu warned “nobody can control TSMC by force”.

“If you take a military force or invasion, you will render TSMC factory not operable,” he said.

“These are such sophisticated manufacturing facilities. It depends on the real-time connection with the outside world, with Europe, with Japan, with the US.”

The Taiwanese firm dominates more than half of the global semiconductor market, with clients including Apple and Sony.

“From materials to chemicals and spare parts, to engineering software diagnosis, and it’s everyone’s effort to make this factory operable,” Liu said."



Most of the better experts expect trouble over Taiwan but many also expect a blockade rather than an invasion. October and April would be best months for that (calmer seas).

If people need electronics it might be wise to not put it off too long
 
TSMC issues warning:

"In a rare interview with CNN that aired Monday, TSMC chairman Mark Liu warned “nobody can control TSMC by force”.

“If you take a military force or invasion, you will render TSMC factory not operable,” he said.

“These are such sophisticated manufacturing facilities. It depends on the real-time connection with the outside world, with Europe, with Japan, with the US.”

The Taiwanese firm dominates more than half of the global semiconductor market, with clients including Apple and Sony.

“From materials to chemicals and spare parts, to engineering software diagnosis, and it’s everyone’s effort to make this factory operable,” Liu said."



Most of the better experts expect trouble over Taiwan but many also expect a blockade rather than an invasion. October and April would be best months for that (calmer seas).

If people need electronics it might be wise to not put it off too long
Taiwan is a separate country and should have been formally recognized by the UN as such decades ago. The UN has allowed this bluster and Chinese aggressions to proceed unchecked. time to buck up
 
PYPL solid earnings report after hours. It's been holding that range (70-85) I mentioned awhile back and after this earnings report I'd think we've seen the bottom for it. Some resistance in the mid high 90s and after that I'd say 120s. 15B buy back authorization too along with a hedge fund stake news I posted the other day.

Not in SOFI but that's had a nice pop after hours on earnings as well.

 
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PYPL solid earnings report after hours. It's been holding that range (70-85) I mentioned awhile back and after this earnings report I'd think we've seen the bottom for it. Some resistance in the mid high 90s and after that I'd say 120s. 15B buy back authorization too along with a hedge fund stake news I posted the other day.

Not in SOFI but that's had a nice pop after hours on earnings as well.

+1
Real nice jump. Flirting with $100 now. Over 70% of companies have exceeded expectations on earnings so far. The market wants to run.
 
Sold some SOFI today. I’m guessing that meme fintech stock in HK has something to do with it.
 
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Real nice jump. Flirting with $100 now. Over 70% of companies have exceeded expectations on earnings so far. The market wants to run.
I’m interpreting this as a summer bear market rally that will fade and possibly retest lows in early Fall. But I think we are inching closer to putting recession fears to rest.
 
I’m interpreting this as a summer bear market rally that will fade and possibly retest lows in early Fall. But I think we are inching closer to putting recession fears to rest.
Remember one thing, bears always lose at the end of the day. Markets go up. I don't know if this will happen now or later, but by the time bears realize that a rally is actually the rally, they already missed out (just like many did in March/April 2020). Be careful.
 
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Sold some SOFI today. I’m guessing that meme fintech stock in HK has something to do with it.
Long hold that you wuss! $15 coming soon:

Impressive Net Interest Income and Personal Loan Growth Drive a Solid Q2 for SoFi
Morningstar Analyst Note | Aug 3, 2022

No-moat-rated SoFi technologies reported solid second-quarter earnings as weak student loan origination was offset by personal loans and deposit growth that came in well above our expectations. SoFi’s net revenue grew 57% year over year and 9.7% from last quarter to $362.5 million. As we incorporate these results, we do not expect to materially alter our $15 fair value estimate for SoFi.

SoFi’s lending business, which remains the firm’s largest segment, saw its revenue grow 55% from last year to $257 million. The segment continues to benefit from rapid growth in net interest income, which rose 101% year over year and 21% quarter over quarter to $114 million. Increasing net interest income was one of the primary goals behind SoFi’s acquisition of a national bank charter as it allows SoFi to retain its client's deposits and use them to finance its lending arm. Deposit growth impressed during the quarter, rising 135% from last quarter to $2.7 billion. We had expected the high rates offered by SoFi’s bank accounts to act as a tailwind to the firm’s deposit gathering efforts, but these results are impressive, with deposits now making up roughly 40% of the company’s total funding.

SoFi’s loan origination volume was more mixed, with total origination rising 8.7% from last year but falling 3.4% from last quarter. Personal loans remained strong, with origination rising 91% from last year to $2.5 billion. This was offset by weakness student loans and mortgage origination which fell 54% and 58%, respectively, to $399 million and $332 million. Federal student loan forbearance remains a major headwind to SoFi, with student loan volume during the quarter coming in at around 25% of pre-pandemic volume. While forbearance is slated to end Aug. 31, our current projections include an assumed extension into 2023 as student loan servicers have been told not to send billing notices to borrowers. This means forbearance will likely remain an ongoing headwind for SoFi in 2022.
 
Long hold that you wuss! $15 coming soon:

Impressive Net Interest Income and Personal Loan Growth Drive a Solid Q2 for SoFi
Morningstar Analyst Note | Aug 3, 2022

No-moat-rated SoFi technologies reported solid second-quarter earnings as weak student loan origination was offset by personal loans and deposit growth that came in well above our expectations. SoFi’s net revenue grew 57% year over year and 9.7% from last quarter to $362.5 million. As we incorporate these results, we do not expect to materially alter our $15 fair value estimate for SoFi.

SoFi’s lending business, which remains the firm’s largest segment, saw its revenue grow 55% from last year to $257 million. The segment continues to benefit from rapid growth in net interest income, which rose 101% year over year and 21% quarter over quarter to $114 million. Increasing net interest income was one of the primary goals behind SoFi’s acquisition of a national bank charter as it allows SoFi to retain its client's deposits and use them to finance its lending arm. Deposit growth impressed during the quarter, rising 135% from last quarter to $2.7 billion. We had expected the high rates offered by SoFi’s bank accounts to act as a tailwind to the firm’s deposit gathering efforts, but these results are impressive, with deposits now making up roughly 40% of the company’s total funding.

SoFi’s loan origination volume was more mixed, with total origination rising 8.7% from last year but falling 3.4% from last quarter. Personal loans remained strong, with origination rising 91% from last year to $2.5 billion. This was offset by weakness student loans and mortgage origination which fell 54% and 58%, respectively, to $399 million and $332 million. Federal student loan forbearance remains a major headwind to SoFi, with student loan volume during the quarter coming in at around 25% of pre-pandemic volume. While forbearance is slated to end Aug. 31, our current projections include an assumed extension into 2023 as student loan servicers have been told not to send billing notices to borrowers. This means forbearance will likely remain an ongoing headwind for SoFi in 2022.
Have plenty more to sell.
 
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Sold some SOFI today. I’m guessing that meme fintech stock in HK has something to do with it.
By the way, seeing a bunch of new meme stocks getting the short squeeze. Mostly small international companies.
 
Headline says it all:


Following the rally in the second half of last month, as of July 29, the broad U.S. equity market is trading at an 11% discount to our fair value.

Lots of great charts in the article.
 
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Not political but those in the industry would you consider carried interest income or a capital gain or somewhere in between?

@Frida's Boss
The carried interest tax loophole allows private equity firms, hedge funds and their investors to tax income from investments as capital gains, which top out at 20%. The change would require these profits to be taxed as income, which tops out at 37%.

Closing the carried interest tax loophole was first proposed in 2007 by former House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Sander Levin, a Democrat from Michigan. Levin, 90, ended his last term in the House in 2019.

The proposal helped spark the creation of the Private Equity Growth Capital Council as a lobbying arm of the largest private equity firms.
 
Following the rally in the second half of last month, as of July 29, the broad U.S. equity market is trading at an 11% discount to our fair value.
Lots of great charts in the article.
I agree with Goldman and Bernstein that bear market rally fades into the Fall:

 
way too many externalities to say the mkt is undervalued. It's why bond guys are the smart guys in the room eating the equity guys lunch:)
 
Following the rally in the second half of last month, as of July 29, the broad U.S. equity market is trading at an 11% discount to our fair value.

I agree with Goldman and Bernstein that bear market rally fades into the Fall:

Be careful, bears always end up being wrong.
 
huh, you guys drinking? nothing confusing and pretty easy to follow. You guys are saying mkt is undervalued but I'll say it again, too many externalities to say this which is also what rates products are telling us i.e. the smartest guys in the room:)
 
Not political but those in the industry would you consider carried interest income or a capital gain or somewhere in between?

@Frida's Boss
The carried interest tax loophole allows private equity firms, hedge funds and their investors to tax income from investments as capital gains, which top out at 20%. The change would require these profits to be taxed as income, which tops out at 37%.

Closing the carried interest tax loophole was first proposed in 2007 by former House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Sander Levin, a Democrat from Michigan. Levin, 90, ended his last term in the House in 2019.

The proposal helped spark the creation of the Private Equity Growth Capital Council as a lobbying arm of the largest private equity firms.
When the Manchin/Schumer deal was announced, I was given reassurances by our lobbyist that the carried interest tax loophole closure would not be included in the final bill. Krysten Sinema got played by Schumer and Manchin. They knew that she would object to the closure of the loophole and was therefore put in the bill as a point of negotiation. Closure of the loophole only generates ~$14 billion and could be easily replaced as it was in the deal between Sinema and Schumer. I have been doing this for a long time but still get amazed every time I see politicians negotiate and play games within their own party.

Now back to stocks... there is a fair chance we will see a pull back. Best to hedge. I bought almost $70,000 in put options expiring at various times over the next few weeks. Tomorrow morning is a big test for this recent rally.
 
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When the Manchin/Schumer deal was announced, I was given reassurances by our lobbyist that the carried interest tax loophole closure would not be included in the final bill. Krysten Sinema got played by Schumer and Manchin. They knew that she would object to the closure of the loophole and was therefore put in the bill as a point of negotiation. Closure of the loophole only generates ~$14 billion and could be easily replaced as it was in the deal between Sinema and Schumer. I have been doing this for a long time but still get amazed every time I see politicians negotiate and play games within their own party.

Now back to stocks... there is a fair chance we will see a pull back. Best to hedge. I bought almost $70,000 in put options expiring at various times over the next few weeks. Tomorrow morning is a big test for this recent rally.
When you say she got played, what other outcome were they trying to avoid by playing her with carried interest?
 
When you say she got played, what other outcome were they trying to avoid by playing her with carried interest?
They ensured passage of the bill by setting her up to reject the closure of the carried interest loophole. The closure of the loophole was never intended to be in the final bill. It was placed there by Manchin/Schumer knowing they could negotiate that and get her approval without needing to redo the entire the deal.
 
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They ensured passage of the bill by setting her up to reject the closure of the carried interest loophole. The closure of the loophole was never intended to be in the final bill. It was placed there by Manchin/Schumer knowing they could negotiate that and get her approval without needing to redo the entire the deal.
The Senate parliamentarian may nuke of few large sections of the bill (as Sinema hinted). She may be playing them. Carried interest is out, minimum corporate tax is shrinking as well.
 
When the Manchin/Schumer deal was announced, I was given reassurances by our lobbyist that the carried interest tax loophole closure would not be included in the final bill. Krysten Sinema got played by Schumer and Manchin. They knew that she would object to the closure of the loophole and was therefore put in the bill as a point of negotiation. Closure of the loophole only generates ~$14 billion and could be easily replaced as it was in the deal between Sinema and Schumer. I have been doing this for a long time but still get amazed every time I see politicians negotiate and play games within their own party.

Now back to stocks... there is a fair chance we will see a pull back. Best to hedge. I bought almost $70,000 in put options expiring at various times over the next few weeks. Tomorrow morning is a big test for this recent rally.
Next CPI report drops on August 10. That will determine if the rally continues or retreats.
 
The Senate parliamentarian may nuke of few large sections of the bill (as Sinema hinted). She may be playing them. Carried interest is out, minimum corporate tax is shrinking as well.
From my understanding, Senate Parliamentarian's decisions are not binding and the Democrats don't have to go along with all their recommendations. My hunch is that the bill will largely pass as agreed.
 
From my understanding, Senate Parliamentarian's decisions are not binding and the Democrats don't have to go along with all their recommendations. My hunch is that the bill will largely pass as agreed.
Overriding the parliamentarian only can be done via a floor vote. Manchin and Sinema are hard no's on this (especially Manchin since the parliamentarian rules were created by former WV Senator Robert Bryd, his idol and a legend in WV).

Not saying items will get nixed, but if they do, it will stick.
 
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