Not nearly as big as the next inflation readout. That's the ballgame.The jobs report tomorrow will play a large role as well in determining the next interest hike.
Not nearly as big as the next inflation readout. That's the ballgame.The jobs report tomorrow will play a large role as well in determining the next interest hike.
Seems right, but let’s say they hadn’t included carried interest. What would Sinema’s objective be then in making them redo the whole deal? What the hell does she stand for? It seems like she just gets off on all the media spotlight.They ensured passage of the bill by setting her up to reject the closure of the carried interest loophole. The closure of the loophole was never intended to be in the final bill. It was placed there by Manchin/Schumer knowing they could negotiate that and get her approval without needing to redo the entire the deal.
Schiller PE is garbageShiller PE ratio for the S&P 500 @ Friday's close:
30.99 +0.43 (1.42%)
4:00 PM EDT, Fri Jul 29
Mean: 16.96 Median: 15.88 Min: 4.78 (Dec 1920) Max: 44.19 (Dec 1999)
Payrolls up 528K.Didn’t they replace carried interest with a tax that raises much more?
Are the jobs number good?
Clear indication that earnings will continue to be very strong (just like this round). Very good news. Also, annual wage growth looks to have plateaued, more good news.Payrolls up 528K.
Finally back to pre-pandemic level on payroll data.
Not political but those in the industry would you consider carried interest income or a capital gain or somewhere in between?
@Frida's Boss
The carried interest tax loophole allows private equity firms, hedge funds and their investors to tax income from investments as capital gains, which top out at 20%. The change would require these profits to be taxed as income, which tops out at 37%.
Closing the carried interest tax loophole was first proposed in 2007 by former House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Sander Levin, a Democrat from Michigan. Levin, 90, ended his last term in the House in 2019.
The proposal helped spark the creation of the Private Equity Growth Capital Council as a lobbying arm of the largest private equity firms.
Depends how you look at it...this may justify more rate hikes which will cause further stock depressionClear indication that earnings will continue to be very strong (just like this round). Very good news. Also, annual wage growth looks to have plateaued, more good news.
No, the CPI/PPI data will rule the day on future rate hikes.Depends how you look at it...this may justify more rate hikes which will cause further stock depression
It is much closer to income than capital gains, although it does put more pressure to generate profitsNot political but those in the industry would you consider carried interest income or a capital gain or somewhere in between?
@Frida's Boss
The carried interest tax loophole allows private equity firms, hedge funds and their investors to tax income from investments as capital gains, which top out at 20%. The change would require these profits to be taxed as income, which tops out at 37%.
Closing the carried interest tax loophole was first proposed in 2007 by former House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Sander Levin, a Democrat from Michigan. Levin, 90, ended his last term in the House in 2019.
The proposal helped spark the creation of the Private Equity Growth Capital Council as a lobbying arm of the largest private equity firms.
I wish all sources of income was taxed at the same rate.It is much closer to income than capital gains, although it does put more pressure to generate profits
It is in the best interest of everyone if there is lower tax rate for long term holding vs short term holding. Those differences should persist. The carried interest loophole should be closed and even though it would affect my income, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. The raised revenue should be used conservatively.I wish all sources of income was taxed at the same rate.
Just make the tax code tied to inflation- brackets, exemptions, standard deduction etc go up at the rate of inflation. Captial gains are also tied to inflation, but gains would be taxed at the same income tax rate.
You buy something for $100 dollars and sell it 10 years later for $200 your cost basis is $100 times the inflation rate over those 10 years
Use the rate we use for social security increases
But if you allow long term holdings to have their cost basis adjusted for inflation you are making an adjustment that effectively provides that benefit. That is why under those conditions any gain should be treated the same as any other income sourceIt is in the best interest of everyone if there is lower tax rate for long term holding vs short term holding. Those differences should persist. The carried interest loophole should be closed and even though it would affect my income, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. The raised revenue should be used conservatively.
Flat tax across the board, all income, but only taxed once. I would say exempt the first $30-40K to help with necessaries and lower income folks. Get rid of ALL deductions, exemptions, except charity. Get rid of all earned income tax credit crap (aka, welfare). Everyone is in the same boat and has skin in the game.I wish all sources of income was taxed at the same rate.
Just make the tax code tied to inflation- brackets, exemptions, standard deduction etc go up at the rate of inflation. Captial gains are also tied to inflation, but gains would be taxed at the same income tax rate.
You buy something for $100 dollars and sell it 10 years later for $200 your cost basis is $100 times the inflation rate over those 10 years
Use the rate we use for social security increases
I would raise the amount not subject to tax to about 60kFlat tax across the board, all income, but only taxed once. I would say exempt the first $30-40K to help with necessaries and lower income folks. Get rid of ALL deductions, exemptions, except charity. Get rid of all earned income tax credit crap (aka, welfare). Everyone is in the same boat and has skin in the game.
Tax code should be cut down to 5-10 pages max. Tax forms on 1 page. Good?
Whatever the math suggests. That level and the flat tax rate should create a new system that is revenue neutral as compared to the current one.I would raise the amount not subject to tax to about 60k
The tax attorney/account/Turbo tax/H&R Block lobby is too powerful for that to happen.Flat tax across the board, all income, but only taxed once. I would say exempt the first $30-40K to help with necessaries and lower income folks. Get rid of ALL deductions, exemptions, except charity. Get rid of all earned income tax credit crap (aka, welfare). Everyone is in the same boat and has skin in the game.
Tax code should be cut down to 5-10 pages max. Tax forms on 1 page. Good?
Great day for my put options. Sold about 50% of them for 4x profit. On days like today, I love the first 30-60 minutes of trading. It is always amateur hour. Lots of market order selling and buying. I am sure lots of people saw the strong job results and sold without thinking. Easy time to make money for professionals.Mostly a meh day for the market (even with the crazy jobs data this morning):
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S&P 500, Nasdaq fall Friday, but notch weekly gains after blowout July jobs report
Investors looked to Friday's jobs report for further clues about the Federal Reserve's path of rate hikes.www.cnbc.com
Probably true.The tax attorney/account/Turbo tax/H&R Block lobby is too powerful for that to happen.
Many "investors" react so emotionally. I'm sure good traders could make a killing on this dynamic.Great day for my put options. Sold about 50% of them for 4x profit. On days like today, I love the first 30-60 minutes of trading. It is always amateur hour. Lots of market order selling and buying. I am sure lots of people saw the strong job results and sold without thinking. Easy time to make money for professionals.
Irrelevant comments. All depends on the next 2 CPI reports.![]()
Fed Governor Bowman sees 'similarly sized' rate hikes ahead after three-quarter point moves
Federal Reserve Governor Michelle Bowman said Saturday she supports the central bank's recent big rate increases and believes they should continue.www.cnbc.com
Musk doesn’t understand how this works. It’ll be debated in Delaware.
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Elon Musk challenges Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal to 'a public debate' on the company's bot data
Musk has accused Twitter of having more bots and fake accounts than it lets on and claims it's withheld bot data from him, which Twitter denies.www.yahoo.com
I sold a few positions today to raise more cash. I’m thinking a sell off is coming soon.Board favorite NVDA is having a rough day. Not sure I believe in the bounce. Will keep $ in the market but lower my beta.
NVDA did a nice job to reset expectations, onwards to a bright future! Holding long. Overall, a chill day for the market. Small caps still in rally mode. All eyes on CPI on Wed and PPI on Thurs.Board favorite NVDA is having a rough day. Not sure I believe in the bounce. Will keep $ in the market but lower my beta.
Board favorite NVDA is having a rough day. Not sure I believe in the bounce. Will keep $ in the market but lower my beta.
Surprised to see it only down 4-5%, especially after its rally over the past few weeks.![]()
Coinbase shares drop on billion-dollar loss in second quarter and revenue miss
Coinbase's revenue declined almost 64% in the quarter as cryptocurrency prices fell.www.cnbc.com
COIN is going nowhere fast…brutal quarter
10% today. 5% after hours.Surprised to see it only down 4-5%, especially after its rally over the past few weeks.
Closed at $53 on 7/26. So still up about 60% in 2 weeks. Wow!10% today. 5% after hours.