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This is a very odd burn. It’s really just pointless trolling I think.
👌 Hood Dude
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Very timely article. I assumed he was talking about decriminalizing all drugs in Oregon, not just cannabis.One thing is for sure, ODs are up and are a serious issue across the nation. I wouldn't doubt the numbers are on the rise, however, deaths did not total 1250 like you are claiming.
I do know a good number of people smoking weed and eating gummies for pain and anxiety in which they had been prescribed Opioids and other additive medicines that do lead to OD's. And they are smoking pot instead of taking the pills.Pot was legalized in 2014 in Oregon. The earliest date cited in that article was 2019. That's suggestive that some other factor other than legalization of pot is leading to the ODs.
The article says 280 narcotic ODs in 2019. With another 965 in 2022. That's a big jump. But legalization being in 2014, it's kind of hard to say that jump is due to legalization. Article says the numbers are still being compiled for 2023.
Also, the article is predominately about Fentanyl and appears to have nothing whatsoever in it that supports your conjecture that there is any kind of correlation between legalization of pot and Fentanyl ODs.
In short, the link you provided there does not support a narrative about a correlation between legalization and Fentanyl overdose deaths. Maybe there IS a correlation. I don't know.
But I do know you have yet to make a valid case for it.
This is a very odd burn. It’s really just pointless trolling I think.
I don't recall a time when the media was necessarily suddenly worse than it has always been. I must be missing something. Over 100 years ago the term yellow journalism was coined. There has always been good and bad in news reporting. My sense is more that it's the public and their demands and expectations that have changed more than that the media changed. This might be in part due to the changes brought about by Lee Atwater, who started the radicalization of Republican voters by insisting on demonizing Democrats with words like "sick" and "disgusting" and mailings that claimed things like Democrats wanted to outlaw the Bible. It set us down a bad path.Maybe, but people are more prone to believe outlandish things when there's a track record of media reporting things that turn out to later be outlandish.
And you continue to be a clueless moron. Keep drinking the kool-aid and believing your tinfoil hat conspiracy bullshit. Dumbass.👌 Hood Dude
You fled Iselin for da hood
I don't recall a time when the media was necessarily suddenly worse than it has always been. I must be missing something. Over 100 years ago the term yellow journalism was coined. There has always been good and bad in news reporting. My sense is more that it's the public and their demands and expectations that have changed more than that the media changed. This might be in part due to the changes brought about by Lee Atwater, who started the radicalization of Republican voters by insisting on demonizing Democrats with words like "sick" and "disgusting" and mailings that claimed things like Democrats wanted to outlaw the Bible. It set us down a bad path.
That’s actually a good one. 😊Funny how you chose this post to reply to with all of the trolling by rc91
Do you have a relationship with him?
Hush Dunce Cap. You're worthless and mindless.
I'm not sure how often it happens, but people who smoke pot can be either exposed to other drugs and begin them due to the surrounding group/peer pressure or pot smokers look for alternatives to their usual and experiment with more potent substances.So- I can't find any reason legalized pot has anything to do with OD's that are mostly happening because of fentanyl and opioid addiction.
Pot was legalized in 2014 in Oregon. The earliest date cited in that article was 2019. That's suggestive that some other factor other than legalization of pot is leading to the ODs.
The article says 280 narcotic ODs in 2019. With another 965 in 2022. That's a big jump. But legalization being in 2014, it's kind of hard to say that jump is due to legalization. Article says the numbers are still being compiled for 2023.
Also, the article is predominately about Fentanyl and appears to have nothing whatsoever in it that supports your conjecture that there is any kind of correlation between legalization of pot and Fentanyl ODs.
In short, the link you provided there does not support a narrative about a correlation between legalization and Fentanyl overdose deaths. Maybe there IS a correlation. I don't know.
But I do know you have yet to make a valid case for it.
Coming from a board nutjob I’ll take that as a compliment.Hush Dunce Cap. You're worthless and mindless.
While I get that- I don’t think legalization has anything to do with it.I'm not sure how often it happens, but people who smoke pot can be either exposed to other drugs and begin them due to the surrounding group/peer pressure or pot smokers look for alternatives to their usual and experiment with more potent substances.
I am not saying there are no ODs. I’m saying there’s no evidence the ODs are in any way related to legalization of pot. OTOH, there is evidence that there’s no correlation.There are other articles. You can find 1250 ODs in 2023 if you look.
Dunce Cap doubles down. You can always be counted on to have nothing to say but childish insults.Coming from a board nutjob I’ll take that as a compliment.
No one likes you.Dunce Cap doubles down. You can always be counted on to have nothing to say but childish insults.
Lol der...fyi: I have no desire to be liked by the fascists of the rwcj.No one likes you.
Well, maybe a few other nutjobs like HoodGuy and Dementia Dave.
Lol der...fyi: I have no desire to be liked by the fascists of the rwcj.
You’re crazy Pride GuyNone of it is a good idea. A bunch of far right wingers take over a federal property by force and get away scot-free. Moral hazard. No reason not to do it again. But if you're a politician you're often now in a position of damned if you, damned if you don't. Disney found this out in Florida: don't condemn a state law enough and workers create an uproar and resign, condemn it too much and the governor is after you. America has become a place where small groups of loud and pushy people run the dialogue.
You're not getting it, Dunce Cap. You're the one who's a joke. Literally all you do is insult people like a 10 year old. The fact that you're unaware of it is just sad. Seriously, animated gifs? Lol.
I've generally found that guys who post about somebody "pulling the strings" are spending way too much time all by themselves pulling their own "strings".
Well at least the board’s leading intellectual agrees with you.
Who is OD'ing on legalized pot?
You're mentioning examples from the right. But both sides do that stuff. And I would argue it's indeed about polarization.
Neither side believes they do it. Both sides do it ALL THE TIME. Just depends on who's in office, an R or D, at any given time.
Trump is very unique in our history in that an unusually large amount of the demonization, but not all of it, thrown at him is actually well-deserved. Even his own people eventually echoed many of the things coming from the Dems, and still do.
But before him, it was NOT well-deserved by any president of either party. It was just the typical scandal mongering that both sides do. Or do you forgot how Democrats treated both Bushes? Was pretty despicable, same as how the Reps treated Obama and the Clintons. Again, both sides do that crap.
Seriously ? A lot of 10 year olds are way sharper than Proud boy.You're not getting it, Dunce Cap. You're the one who's a joke. Literally all you do is insult people like a 10 year old. The fact that you're unaware of it is just sad. Seriously, animated gifs? Lol.
Very timely article. I assumed he was talking about decriminalizing all drugs in Oregon, not just cannabis.
This article uses percentages, but I’ve seen the 1250 number elsewhere.
“In 2019, 280 people died of a drug overdose in Oregon. Fatalities rose every year after, more than tripling by 2022, when 956 died. And last year, even more people died, according to preliminary data. Each month the number has been higher than the previous year, reaching 628 in June. The state is still compiling data for 2023, but if the trends continue, the total would reach 1,250 deaths from an overdose.”
The Results Are in—Oregon's Total Drug Decriminalization Was a Failure
Oregon Governor Tina Kotek declared a state of emergency in Portland due to sharp rises in overdose deaths, public drug use, and crime.www.newsweek.com
Lock him up.I am guessing a lot of them will be toking after a certain appellate court decision this morning.
You’re crazy Pride Guy
I agree that legalized weed wouldn’t cause this significant of a rise in overdoses. Oregon didn’t just legalize weed, they decriminalized all drug possession. There’s a great chance that is what caused this increase but I’m not sure there’s been studies just yet.The problem of course that about 24 other states have legal weed and didn't have this problem.
There are areas of the country with big drug problems. I don't believe there's any dispensaries on Staten Island for example, but check out the overdose rate versus a lot of other places in NYC/S and NJ.
Lock him up.
I agree that legalized weed wouldn’t cause this significant of a rise in overdoses. Oregon didn’t just legalize weed, they decriminalized all drug possession. There’s a great chance that is what caused this increase but I’m not sure there’s been studies just yet.
Uruguay too I believe.We have comps there too. Portugal for example has been very successful in decriminalization. NJ actually had some moves to drug courts- ironically under Christie who also did bail reform before an Australian billionaire decided he could demagogue those things.
PNW- Seattle and Vancouver too- had these issues for as long as I can remember. A lot of it is probably the weather. But can't blame anyone for that so...
Uruguay too I believe.
The hypocrisy here--and of course there's hypocrisy, they're conservatives--is that normally they couldn't possibly care less about addicts and say good riddance when an addict ODs, yet they complain that legalizing pot allegedly leads to an increase in ODs (with OTHER drugs, which makes no sense).The problem of course that about 24 other states have legal weed and didn't have this problem.
There are areas of the country with big drug problems. I don't believe there's any dispensaries on Staten Island for example, but check out the overdose rate versus a lot of other places in NYC/S and NJ.
And, of course, it's kinda legal in Jamaica.Uruguay too I believe.
The point was you cited an article but misquoted what the number represented. That's all.There are other articles. You can find 1250 ODs in 2023 if you look.
I was grasping for small straws on that one. Legalized means easier access, which can result in a rise in other experimental use I suppose. I dont think many would dispute ODs are coming from the heavy hitters and not the tokers.While I get that- I don’t think legalization has anything to do with it.
We have been talking forever about pot being the gateway drug. Not sure how true, it may be the chicken or egg argument.
And unless someone has been sleeping in the woods for the past decade, OD’s are coming from the Opioid/ fentanyl problem, not legalized pot.
And I would take i the other way- legalizing Pot allows some that do it for anxiety and pain to do it legally rather than find or use additive prescription drugs.The point was you cited an article but misquoted what the number represented. That's all.
I was grasping for small straws on that one. Legalized means easier access, which can result in a rise in other experimental use I suppose. I dont think many would dispute ODs are coming from the heavy hitters and not the tokers.
Touche'!!!And I would take i the other way- legalizing Pot allows some that do it for anxiety and pain to do it legally rather than find or use additive prescription drugs.
Those that would have bought pot from dealers would have been more pressured into additive drugs- legalized pot dealers would rather you just keep toking
Funny cuz everything I’ve been saying has been proven true as time goes on.And you continue to be a clueless moron. Keep drinking the kool-aid and believing your tinfoil hat conspiracy bullshit. Dumbass.
The shit you spew just gets dumber by the day. Enjoy your trailer proud boy.Funny cuz everything I’ve been saying has been proven true as time goes on.
Start prepping now to avoid a stay in a FEMA Camp.
But that may be an upgrade for you 🤣