Only caught the 2nd half, but wow, that was intense, especially at the end, as it got really testy. Should've been a red card on Herrera for the 2nd yellow...
OT: We may win the World Cup in 2026
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Yeah, that crowd is out of control - players on both teams being hit with water bottles and all kinds of other crap, homophobic chants by the Mexican crowd, and some borderline dirty play. Horvath was awesome. Huge win.
Big win, and we didn’t even play very well!
Mexican fans always pull that shit. Always. Great win tonight. Stellar.
Not just that, but their team also pulls cheap shots and and are border line dirty when they play us and if they are losing it just gets worse.
The Mexico team is easily my most disliked soccer team. It is a great rivalry.
I dislike the Mexican soccer team so much that if they were playing Syracuse, I’d root for the Orangemen
If we had gone up by 2 goals, Mexico would have really started with the dirty play (remember the World Cup round of 16 game). Last night they needed to try and score so they had to keep playing.
It must have been Mexican fans hurling debris since the most rabid US fans were in the opposite end zone
Mexicans love throwing trash. And urine.
Why do they hate gays so much? Is it a machismo thing?
Why do they hate gays so much? Is it a machismo thing?
Lol. The crazy thing is I bet most of them live in the USA too, but yet our hitting the American players with debris. A classless fan base who are really insecure.
I'm curious. Do the Mexican fans behave this way against other ConCaCaf teams or is it just the USA?
They act horribly in general, especially with the homophobic stuff. They definitely take it up several notches against the USA though.
This is common throughout Mexico and Central America. Generally reserved for rivals, so I guess in a weird way, it is a sign of respect.
Someone managed to hit a Mexican player in the head later in extra time, too. Just ridiculous.
I think it's everyone as they were already under investigation for there fans using gay slurs before.
Mexican national team should be penalized for how its fans acted.
Pulisic could get a slap on the hand for taunting the fans. I thought what he did was awesome, "shut up, not in my house". This guy is next level. Not sure why this guy doesn't get a consistent 90min at Chelsea.
Pulisic could get a slap on the hand for taunting the fans. I thought what he did was awesome, "shut up, not in my house". This guy is next level. Not sure why this guy doesn't get a consistent 90min at Chelsea.
If anything, the US national team should be penalized. The home nation is responsible for security.
Pulisic did nothing wrong. Thats pretty minor stuff compared to what you see in soccer and other sports.
Security cannot keep an ass hole fan from throwing stuff on the field. They can identify the culprits and have them arrested which evidently did happen. The American Outlaw fan group was in the opposite endzone from where the troublle was. No problems on that side of the field. It was obvious Mexican fans causing the problems,
This. I’m amazed more things like this DON’T happen. You get 20k people in one place and a few hundred lose their friggen minds, it’s a problem.
I was at a Judas Priest concert at MSG in the 80s when the fans decided to rain hundreds of pizza boxes on the band. It wasn’t until one was throw my way that I saw they were actually seat cushions. The always busy Garden had to call in favors from all the east coast venues to help get emergency seating.
You are correct. Oddly, it seems a number of people in the thread aren't understanding the basic point you're making.
For those of you who aren't understanding, @Doctor Worm is NOT claiming that it wasn't fans of the Mexican national team causing problems. He's pointing out, accurately, that the home team (in this case, the home nation) is responsible for security during matches. The game was played in the US, right? It was our responsibility to ensure the security of the game. Doesn't matter whose fans misbehave insofar as security goes.
Absent any evidence to the contrary, the fans who misbehaved, while fans of the Mexican national team perhaps, were predominately US citizens attending a game played in the United States for which security was the responsibility of the US national team.
As some of you said, identify and arrest the specific fans who were the problem. That's the correct response. Can't penalize a team from some other country for the behavior of fans in our country.
Dike and Aaronson with goals so far! Big development as we're going to need some consistent goal scorers for the qualifiers and ultimately the WC.
Goal scorers Sunday were 18, 22, and 22 years old...Tonight, they were 18, 20, 21, and 22.
The future is bright.
I don't follow soccer closely so when I put on the Mexico game and our team looked like a bunch of kids from junior high I was a little shocked. I knew we had a lot of young guys but not this many.
That's why there is so much excitement with this squad. The team that didn't qualify for the world cup was full of aging players mixed with some average MLS players and Pulisic.
This squad now has so many very young players that play in big European leagues, so even if they don't play every game with their club they are constantly getting better in training going against the best every day.
The expectation is these kids will continue to improve and the MLS has done a great job with letting kids leave for Europe at a very young age to maximize their development.
Question about MLS. What level of play is it? A comparison to baseball with the Premier League or the Bundesliga being MLB what would MLS be? Is it even triple A? Or is it two levels below these leagues.
Probably somewhere btw AA and AAA ball.
The top teams I think would finish mid-table in the championship. There is skill and coaching in the US but not the squad depth - but that is improving.
The top teams I think would finish mid-table in the championship. There is skill and coaching in the US but not the squad depth - but that is improving.
Tough answer because in my opinion the MLS is in a transformation stage. One poster above I agree with, top MLS teams would finish around mid table in the championship. If you're not familiar the English Championship is the 2nd tier league in England. The MLS still takes some older players from Europe but I don't think as much as they used to, a lot of squads have some good players that are younger, and to me it seems like talented young South American players are making the jump to the MLS rather than Mexico or to bigger historic clubs in South America.
There are some very good players in the MLS but each team only has a few good players, the rest are average that will never play at a higher level. The best leagues in Europe have players in reserves that would walk right into any MLS team.
In recent years many young American players are leaving the MLS at the youth level around age 15, 16, and 17 before making their professional debut and joining clubs in Europe.
Lastly, another big difference is the coaching. This is an area where the US is lacking heavily compared to the rest of the world, off the top of my head I can think of 1 American manager in Europe's main leagues, Jesse Marsch. A lot of managers in the MLS are foreign too.
For the September qualifiers, I would submit that there are six field players whose names (barring injury) can be written into the starting linup in ink:
- Tyler Adams
- John Brooks
- Sergino Dest
- Weston McKennie
- Christian Pulisic
- Gio Reyna
And if I were filling out the squad, I'd probably want Chris Richards (21) next to Brooks, either A Robinson (23) or Cannon (turns 23 tomorrow) outside, Steffan or Horvath (both 26) in goal, Sargent or Dike (both 21) up top, and maybe Musah (18) or Weah (21). Maybe Lleget (28) in place of one of those last two depending on how the next few months go. And Aaronson (20) looks like a definite impact guy off the bench. Guys like Siebatcheu (25), Yueill (24), Acosta (25), McKenzie (22), Long (28) when healthy. And more young guys like Konrad and Soto waiting in the wings.
So many of those guys are still several years away from peaking. Exciting times.
