OT: Where is N/C/S Jersey poll

[BeantownKnight]

I think all of you should look at the real question - what does the poll mean by "What is considered North/Central/South Jersey?" I mean, I could look at a map and draw two horizontal lines, evenly spaced, across the state. But, most of the people replying here aren't answering the question in purely cartographic terms. They bring in their own biases or preferences when imagining what makes up these three distinct geographies.

I grew up in Marlboro, which - like the rest of Monmouth County - I consider solidly Central. But, that's due to sociological reasons. I did not feel as though I had as much in common with the (just out of) New Yorkers who inhabit the northeast corner of the state, as well as most of the rest of the metro area. Same goes for the South Jerseyans from the Cherry Hill area, and their close ties to Philly. If anything, I'd imagine having more in common with folks who live much further south (on the Shore) and further west/northwest because they, too, didn't see themselves as either New Yorkers or Philadelphians.

 

[willisneverrana43]

double entry

 

[willisneverrana43]

The poll would be more interesting if it asked not just what section your town is in, but what are the other sections of NJ. Hard to put together, but I bet you'd get many residents in northern jersey placing towns in southern jersey that don't think they are.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Princeton is not South Jersey! LOL! I have heard people in person say that Union (the city) is South Jersey! They are called idiots.

Trenton is the end of the Road for Central Jersey. Anything below Trenton is South Jersey. Union County is the end of the Road for North Jersey. Once you hit
Middlesex County you are in Central Jersey.

 

[derleider]

The poll would be more interesting if it asked not just what section your town is in, but what are the other sections of NJ. Hard to put together, but I bet you'd get many residents in northern jersey placing towns in southern jersey that don't think they are.

It wouldnt be that hard to put together.

Take this (i.e. where do you live and do you consider it N/C/S) and then just give them a never ended pop up of townships with options for N/C/S or dont know. Maybe include a map or don.t

Then you could change the map view by whether the person making it considers themselves to live in N/C/S Jersey.

 

[SirPerceval]

It wouldnt be that hard to put together.

Take this (i.e. where do you live and do you consider it N/C/S) and then just give them a never ended pop up of townships with options for N/C/S or dont know. Maybe include a map or don.t

Then you could change the map view by whether the person making it considers themselves to live in N/C/S Jersey.

The poll does allow you to place any town in any section - there is an unlimited dropdown.

 

[jerseypete12]

IMO,

Towns like Rahway, Linden, Carteret and Perth Amboy are much more aligned to North Jersey towns like Elizabeth, Newark and Bayonne than they are to "Central Jersey" towns like Woodbridge, Edison, North Brunswick, Sayreville, etc.

 

[IL Lusciato]

I think all of you should look at the real question - what does the poll mean by "What is considered North/Central/South Jersey?" I mean, I could look at a map and draw two horizontal lines, evenly spaced, across the state. But, most of the people replying here aren't answering the question in purely cartographic terms. They bring in their own biases or preferences when imagining what makes up these three distinct geographies.

I grew up in Marlboro, which - like the rest of Monmouth County - I consider solidly Central. But, that's due to sociological reasons. I did not feel as though I had as much in common with the (just out of) New Yorkers who inhabit the northeast corner of the state, as well as most of the rest of the metro area. Same goes for the South Jerseyans from the Cherry Hill area, and their close ties to Philly. If anything, I'd imagine having more in common with folks who live much further south (on the Shore) and further west/northwest because they, too, didn't see themselves as either New Yorkers or Philadelphians.

I grew up in Freehold, and if there is one thing that is a pet peeve of mine it is people from Monmouth co. acting like North Jersey is an extension of NYC. Hudson county certainly has some similarities, but Essex and Passaic have more Jersey pride then I have seen by the 75% Brooklyn/staten island transplants that live in Monmouth. Heck, my whole family was born in Brooklyn. Almost everyone i knew growing up in Freehold was either born in or parents were born in staten island an brooklyn. In Essex and Passaic co, most people have roots in Paterson or Newark. Truth is North East NJ has a rivalry/beef/competition with NYC. South Jersey loves Philly and considers themselves one metro entity, but in North NJ there is a nj/ny rivalry. Heck, there are more Ranger fans all over Monmouth co. than in Essex co.

I suppose that is why the old folks from Bergen co. consider Monmouth to be south. B/C that whole Freehold corridor was nothing but farms and the shore folks called the north jersey vacationers "bennys" (I hate that stupid crap). Once all the families, including my parents as young kids, from NYC, and people from Newark and Jersey City also, populated Monmouth Co. it became solidly Central Jersey, as the 1st generation jersey people like me, and the shore culture etc. came together to form a unique identity. I assert that the same is true in north ocean co. and Mercer too.

Just my .02, but it is 100% true.

 

[BeantownKnight]

I grew up in Freehold, and if there is one thing that is a pet peeve of mine it is people from Monmouth co. acting like North Jersey is an extension of NYC. Hudson county certainly has some similarities, but Essex and Passaic have more Jersey pride then I have seen by the 75% Brooklyn/staten island transplants that live in Monmouth. Heck, my whole family was born in Brooklyn. Almost everyone i knew growing up in Freehold was either born in or parents were born in staten island an brooklyn. In Essex and Passaic co, most people have roots in Paterson or Newark. Truth is North East NJ has a rivalry/beef/competition with NYC. South Jersey loves Philly and considers themselves one metro entity, but in North NJ there is a nj/ny rivalry. Heck, there are more Ranger fans all over Monmouth co. than in Essex co.

I suppose that is why the old folks from Bergen co. consider Monmouth to be south. B/C that whole Freehold corridor was nothing but farms and the shore folks called the north jersey vacationers "bennys" (I hate that stupid crap). Once all the families, including my parents as young kids, from NYC, and people from Newark and Jersey City also, populated Monmouth Co. it became solidly Central Jersey, as the 1st generation jersey people like me, and the shore culture etc. came together to form a unique identity. I assert that the same is true in north ocean co. and Mercer too.

Just my .02, but it is 100% true.

This is my point, Lusciato. Or, did you know that already and you were merely reinforcing my point?

My argument is that people bring in their own biases, or preferences, as to what makes an area or region a distinct entity. Your comment illustrates yours. Other than my remark indicating that I consider Monmouth County solidly Central Jersey, message didn't indicate any biases one way or the other. It merely indicates that perhaps these are the reasons why people look at geographies the way they do.

And, regarding Monmouth County, as when I grew up there, there were a lot less Brooklyn/Staten Islanders. But, odds are, they are changing the very identity of the county. That said, there are things other than people that make places unique.

 

[abroman]

If you go to Wawa to get a hoagie you are in south jersey

If you go to Wawa to get a sub you are in central jersey

If you don't have a Wawa you are in north jersey