OT: Woolfolk to Miami of Ohio
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Back home for him and at level he may be able to excel at. Good luck to him..
I think he will do very well there. I always liked him but he was a little over his head here. Good luck to him.
Good luck,Wolf! I remember I ran into him on Livingston. He is an individual with a great spirit.
Wish him nothing but the best.
Still wonder if we should have made him a tight end and played hoops too.
;-)
Still wonder if we should have made him a tight end and played hoops too.
;-)
Agree best of luck Wolf! I think he's a genuinely good guy and can really do well at that level.
That is a fantastic academic school and a beautiful campus. Mrs Shift did part a master's degree there. Also, they had a legendary station, 97X-- WOXY, which is now defunct. Maybe somebody remembers this from Rain Man:
Kinda crazy this board wishes every guy well that transfers down . But condemns every kid that transfers up or equal level , even kids that have a Rutgers diploma
Good luck to him !
Good luck to him !
It’s truly fascinating to watch. To me it’s as simple as don’t burn bridges on your way out and you get my continued support
Plum - this has been an explained to you numerous times. Cam got criticized due to the TIMING not because he transferred “up”. His timing SCREWED us.
Had he announced with the same timing of Wolf (right away and MONTHS prior) he would not have received the ire of RU fans.
One example…
MYLES
He transferred “up” - yet he universally received well wishes and he got a wonderful reception when he came back to the RAC
Another ….
CLIFF
will certainly transfer “up” yet he will undoubtedly get a flood of well wishes on here AND would likely get a standing 0 were he to return to the RAC like Myles
You’re just totally wrong on this. And this has been pointed out to you repeatedly yet you persist with the bs
Those are two very prominent transfers who went “up” - and both transfers hurt - we really could have used them . Yet Cliff and Myles, both of whom TRANSFERRED “UP”, get almost universal respect and appreciation (no where near the ire of cam who deservedly got criticized because his timing f$cked us!!!)
… you’re just 100% wrong on this
But youll keep at it
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You are right on Myles, he did get well wishes.
Otherwise , I was stating facts and wasn’t interjecting reasons or opinions into this .
The guys that transferred to a power conference usually not wished well by the fanbase. The list includes Todd billet, dahntay jones , Rosario , Eugene. Even Jacob young kinda got a don’t let the door hit you on the way out
you’re bringing transfers from 20 years ago. Come on man. It’s 2024
People don’t look at transfers the way they did back then .its apples to oranges . Billet - what is he like 50 now? lol
The two recent transfers you mention Eugene and young-
Eugene got criticized due to the circumstances of his transfer - remember he also kinda f$&ked us over.
Young - I don’t remember him getting too much backlash at all. If anything many here were kinda happy to see him go (hence the “don’t let the door….”)
And what about Mathis ? Another up/ lateral transfer. There was no backlash.
Paul’s transfer ( also up/ lateral) is more complicated. He got FAR less criticism than cam - even though his timing also f&cked us. And I think that was two fold: (1) he deservedly got TONS of respect for his time here yet (2) many were ready to move on. So for those reasons he didn’t get too much backlash. Plus his transfer was rumored for a long time so even though the timing totally sucked it wasn’t a surprise
So in addition to Myles and Cliff (2 transfer UP that get WELL WISHES - directly refuting your point), the reaction to Paul’s transfer (UP/lateral) was complicated/ mixed . Eugene got backlash yet young and Mathis got none or little.
Point is: it’s not nearly as simple as you’re making it out to be.
The reaction to each recent up/ lateral transfer has been based on the unique circumstances surrounding each
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If you were just offereing facts you would not have used the term "kinda crazy" which is opinion based.
Further, your cherry picking guys from 20-30 years ago to troll your point. Perhaps you don't understand the nuance that every situation is different.....
For example, beyond Myles and recently, Montez Matthis was also not criticized.
In the end player needs to do what the player needs to do. Hurting a team or upsetting a fanbase is only a minimal part of the equation.
x1000. Bitch, moan and criticize all you want but nobody owes Rutgers or the fans anything. Timing is irrelevant. None of us would sacrifice our best interest in favor of loyalty to our employer.
Disagree.
While everyone has the right to better their situation there are right and wrong ways to go about it.
If you leave an employer in a way that f&cks over the employer or you were dishonest/ played the employer in some way - then yeah, that person would have burned a bridge. Keep doing that and it might come back to bite you eventually. I mean, sure, you have the RIGHT.
like all employers/bosses I have had employees leave for other opportunities. I have had 3 later ask to come back. 1 of them I would have taken back with open arms (couldn’t for other reasons); while the way the other 2 went about it … thanks but no thanks. Sure they had the RIGHT but burned a bridge.
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Eh.
That's literally what HC Schiano did leaving for the NFL. And people couldn't accept him back soon enough.
Admittedly there are some who still hold a grievance with HC Schiano but those people are usually quickly shouted down.
The reality is:
Player is good and transfers: fan base mad
Player is bad and transfers: fan base happy
If Cam had another year of eligibility and wanted to return - I would be pretty confident the red carpet would be rolled out for him as the 3pt shooter we desperately need.
kids that transfer down usually won't find playing time playing for Rutgers and their leaving makes room on the roster for someone with a better chance to help the team.
It's a win -win and that's why the good feeling.
Some who leave after graduation with eligibility left that use that eligibility are not put down , but wished well by the RU fans that value their contributions to the team while on the path to graduate as a member of the team.
Others that were one year rentals that used their one year on the roster and was able to graduate because of 3 years credits from another school used along with what they earned at Rutgers should be con graduated for graduating, but not hero worshiped because they did.
With that RU degree , that player can be considered a Rutgers Man if one wants to feel that way, but might not be considered a Loyal Son , because that player was only a mercenary who plied his trade for a short time at Rutgers and eared a RU degree because it gave him another year of eligibility that he wouldn't have gained without graduating from Rutgers .
The way Cam played I can understand the hero worshiping by some and their need to keep him considered a Rutgers man.
With his RU degree , Cam can go though life looked at as a Rutgers man and people won't realize his 3 years at Loyola of Maryland helped make that so.
I expect Spencer will be earning his grad degree at UConn and he'll be the one to choose the school he'll use as the one he's connected to the most out of the three he played for
Cam Spenser gave his all as a Scarlet Knight and was a credit to the team athletically along with his academic achievements, I have no reason to dislike Cam considering Rutgers as the University he wants to be connected to.
I hope he does
agree....with respect to Wolf vs Gavin the difference is vast but not surprising actually
Again Myles and Cliff both good players left. Cliff would have been really valuable next year. Yet with very few exceptions no one mad at them. Circumstances (timing and how they go about it) matter.
So again it’s not that simple
And as far as Schiano. He left for the NFL when we were stuck in that adomination of a conference (what was it AAC?). I think the fan attitude at the time was that no one could blame Schiano for leaving. He didn’t screw RU over. So again, the circumstances matter.
JY made a mistake. It wasn’t a good decision for him and mostly people just commented to that effect. If you look at the football board, you don’t see what your talking about. Generally well wishes to kids who have transferred to other major conference programs. The issue is the way things went down with the guys your thinking of who left for basketball.
Eugene - we scheduled a game in Canada for crying out loud. And he transferred late.
Paul - dragged his thing out forever clogging up a spot on the roster
Cam - literally played an extended round of Poker with Rutgers that but Ed the program’s whole season last year. What do you expect?
