OT: WOW… Pete Rose has died at the age of 83

[MulletCork]

I suggest you review the content of the thread Sir Mullet.

Duly noted. Let’s go Mets.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

I follow more than you know. Just don’t give two shits about HOF stuff. Find it funny that all of our trumpster fires on this board suddenly found passionate opinions about baseball.

The thing that made me just about the angriest I've ever been watching a sporting event was when Jim Gray (a douchebag sports media personality if ever there was one) decided to hijack the All-Century Team celebration in order to try and embarrass Pete Rose. I've pretty much been pissed off about this issue since then. That was 25 years ago; it didn't happen yesterday.

 

[1stand3rd]

According to Trump, betting on his team to win is a good excuse. This influences other bettors.

 

[WhiteBus]

The thing that made me just about the angriest I've ever been watching a sporting event was when Jim Gray (a douchebag sports media personality if ever there was one) decided to hijack the All-Century Team celebration in order to try and embarrass Pete Rose. I've pretty much been pissed off about this issue since then. That was 25 years ago; it didn't happen yesterday.

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Funny he did admit it soon after to make money on a book.

 

[MADHAT1]

I didn’t realize we had this many passionate baseball fans outside of the Mets and Yankees threads until now. Posters who generally don’t talk baseball at all. What sparked this passion? Spring training?

Maybe it's a passive passion most hold, they like baseball but it ceased to be #1 for them a long time ago .
But anyone who follows baseball probably has an opinion of Rose being kept out of the HOF.
Some also might feel another players deserve to be in but are being unjustly kept out despite being HOF talent when they were playing.
I would want Shoeless Joe in the MLB HOF if Pete is allowed in and I believe the hall should base acceptance on talent which would make Rose and Jackson shoe-ins.
But in players HOF bio , let the bad be known along with the good

 

[WhiteBus]

Maybe it's a passive passion most hold, they like bas
But in players HOF bio , let the bad be known along with the good

This has been talked about for years but never gets done. Include those that are already in. Put it on the bottom of their plaque.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Maybe it's a passive passion most hold, they like baseball but it ceased to be #1 for them a long time ago .
But anyone who follows baseball probably has an opinion of Rose being kept out of the HOF.
Some also might feel another players deserve to be in but are being unjustly kept out despite being HOF talent when they were playing.
I would want Shoeless Joe in the MLB HOF if Pete is allowed in and I believe the hall should base acceptance on talent which would make Rose and Jackson shoe-ins.
But in players HOF bio , let the bad be known along with the good

The whole problem with Pete is that he AGEED to be banished. I pretty much feel he only took that agreement because he didn’t want them to really know what and how he bet on games.
If he didn’t agree to the deal and got banished, then it would be a different story.
With that said, I don’t know what Trump is actually pardoning?

 

[AdventureHasAName]

The whole problem with Pete is that he AGEED to be banished. I pretty much feel he only took that agreement because he didn’t want them to really know what and how he bet on games.
If he didn’t agree to the deal and got banished, then it would be a different story.
With that said, I don’t know what Trump is actually pardoning?

The agreement said he could apply for reinstatement after one year. You have to believe he at least thought he was signing what was going to amount to a one year ban.

 

[yesrutgers01]

The agreement said he could apply for reinstatement after one year. You have to believe he at least thought he was signing what was going to amount to a one year ban.

He was betting that he would be reinstated…kind of ironic
And does anyone really believe he only bet on his teams to win?
And we’re all bets back then just straight up win or lose or was there a spread or other bets he could actually influence as a manager?
There are reasons he really didn’t want further investigation.

And I ask again, what is Trump pardoning him in regard to?
There isn’t anything to pardon to get him into the HoF..,
Or is he just going to tell the HOF- to let him in?

 

[AdventureHasAName]

And does anyone really believe he only bet on his teams to win?

I do. Attitude-wise, Rose is just built different. He'd cut his arm off before he'd lose a game. This is the guy who hurt someone in a home plate collision in an All-Star game. Nowadays, if you have a blister, you sit out of the All-Star game. I believe he bet on tons of other games (in just about every sport), but when he bet on his games, he bet on his team to win.

And we’re all bets back then just straight up win or lose or was there a spread or other bets he could actually influence as a manager?

Well ... you could bet on over/unders in MLB games, but there weren't all kinds of prop bets available. Like, it wasn't an available option for him to bet on how long his starting pitcher lasted and then just pull him to win the bet.

And I ask again, what is Trump pardoning him in regard to?

I can think of a few reasons:

1. Maybe he actually knew Rose and still feels bad for him,
2. Maybe he just knows his most-devoted voters still feel bad for Rose, or
3. Maybe he's got a vendetta against the MLB League Office for some reason.

I think its mostly #2.

There isn’t anything to pardon to get him into the HoF..,
Or is he just going to tell the HOF- to let him in?

I think he's just applying pressure to the MLB League Office. It's not much more different than when he hammered the NFL in the press over players kneeling for the anthem.