Per Keith Sergeant--No Open Practice for fans/Less Media Access
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you cant really believe harbaugh would care what rutgers is doing in practice? you guys have alot more to worry about than that.
Amazed at how you think other Coaches feel they have the need to spy on RU in order to win a game. That must be another team that's a 25 point dog on the opening game at Washington.
Numerous CFB teams ( many significantly better than us ) hold open practices.
And new to Football ? No, been a season Ticketholder at RU for 20 years and but I am Realist.
Get a grip my friend ...
IKR? Hes acting like him not being able to cover preseason practice is a matter of national security. Or him trying to get Obama's birth certificate or Trump's taxes. I mean damm...
BTW, he tried to compare this to Illinois and Purdue allowing media access to most of their practices. But made the mistake of saying that the Rutgers policy is the same as OSU and Wisconsin. If thats the case, which program would you want be like, lol?
Why does Sergeant care? All they do is make up stories anyway. Now they'll have more time to craft sub moronic half-true narratives.
And the NFL has those rules because the NFL feels that the media spotlight helps attendance and TV viewership. I understand why Ash wants to do this, but, as mentioned above, it's not good from a fan's perspective. And if weren't for fans, college and pro football wouldn't exist.
What the Huskies may see is an opponent playing offensive and defensive systems that do not fit their personnel, but the coaches.
Because practice time is limited by the rules, I have no problem with Ash's policy. I always thought that the public access to the practice session made it into somewhat of a showcase and a wasted practice. If eliminating a public practice session makes us a better team, I'm all for it!
Sargent is a private first class pain in the ass of the program.The less access he has the better.It will make no difference in what he writes. He's a dead end on the information highway.
This only helps for the Washington game and they are 20 PT fave anyway. After that, all 11 teams will know what we' re about.
You guys distrust of the media, as well as any form of oversight is laughable. Take off the Tin Foil Hats, and understand that scrutiny is part of the job.
Lack of oversight is exactly what led to the Mike Rice Situation. Heck, lack of oversight is what turned Happy Valley into a den of Pedophiles.
Coach Ash might very well be the Next Best Thing, but if he can't manage the media, handle the spotlight, or scrutiny in a manner that is transparent, then he's gotta go.
Lack of oversight is exactly what led to the Mike Rice Situation. Heck, lack of oversight is what turned Happy Valley into a den of Pedophiles.
Coach Ash might very well be the Next Best Thing, but if he can't manage the media, handle the spotlight, or scrutiny in a manner that is transparent, then he's gotta go.
I must be in the minority here. I would like to hear practice reports and I'm sure it would help generate some buzz for the season. This seems like a marketing miss to me.
My tin foil hat has been on since the Josh and Ted days and it's been needed more times than not since the Ledger declared war on RU FB when Mulcahy set out to improve the program.
Easily one of the dumbest posts of the year. I'm embarrassed that you graduated from RU.
Washington is sending Ukrainian prostitutes to Rutgers to find out all your secrets.
He was being sarcastic .. .but since you're an Iowa fan I'm guessing by the screen name, it went over your head.
You think Rutgers is the only program that holds private practices? Think again. Oregon has been doing it for years now.
I know where your coming from but I can see why Ash is doing this. Washington has zero game tape on an Ash coached Rutgers team and if he keeps his practices closed to the media Washington will have no idea on how to game plan for RU.
Why not....i doubt Hoke worried much either until he walked out with his 4 and 5 star team on the losing side....like GS said...people don't realize how hard it its to win at the D! level....usually the detail oriented team comes out ahead!!
Yes Flood did a great Job , Terry Shea's tenure was something you should be proud of.
Schiano might not have been the greatest gameday coach but he built a program that will help a good HC succeed.
Maybe this is my journalism degree talking, but I'm in the camp that disagrees with limiting media access to the bare minimum. For every hardcore fan on this message board who believes reporters and columnists are out to get RU, at least two or three times that amount will be disappointed with how this limits coverage over the next month in the lead-up to the season. And when they call the newsroom to complain, the blame is going to be deflected to Ash and RU.
There is no downside to forging a positive relationship with the media, especially local press. In fact, just because a reporter is limited in how often he can observe practice or speak with players and coaches, the need to provide coverage and fill column inches and internet space doesn't go away. You're bound to start seeing more anonymous sources and potentially comments from players' parents, etc. They're going to write SOMETHING, so throwing them a bone in the form of catching some practice (when coaches rarely show anything during the media portion anyway) is often a better approach than leaving them to dig around the periphery of the program.
That said, Ash is within his rights to do this. I'd like to see the B1G, and other conferences, develop rules on how much access should be provided. Everybody wins in that scenario; reporters get a look and the access needed to do their jobs, and coaches/schools don't have to be the bad guy when they tell the media that it's time to go.
There is no downside to forging a positive relationship with the media, especially local press. In fact, just because a reporter is limited in how often he can observe practice or speak with players and coaches, the need to provide coverage and fill column inches and internet space doesn't go away. You're bound to start seeing more anonymous sources and potentially comments from players' parents, etc. They're going to write SOMETHING, so throwing them a bone in the form of catching some practice (when coaches rarely show anything during the media portion anyway) is often a better approach than leaving them to dig around the periphery of the program.
That said, Ash is within his rights to do this. I'd like to see the B1G, and other conferences, develop rules on how much access should be provided. Everybody wins in that scenario; reporters get a look and the access needed to do their jobs, and coaches/schools don't have to be the bad guy when they tell the media that it's time to go.
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>"That said, Ash is within his rights to do this. I'd like to see the B1G, and other conferences, develop rules on how much access should be provided. Everybody wins in that scenario; reporters get a look and the access needed to do their jobs, and coaches/schools don't have to be the bad guy when they tell the media that it's time to go."<
Looks like we can agree in something
As for this statement:> " For every hardcore fan on this message board who believes reporters and columnists are out to get RU".<
I still remember how the local media was during the time RU FB started on the road to respectability and how the local rag spun every positive into a negative while having their Josh and Ted ( so called investigative journalist ) write misleading articles about the football program, the RU AD and the RU FB HC.
So for this RU Fan trusting the local major newspaper and it's website to provide unbiased coverage is something I find hard to do.
I believe that media outlet must prove it will be unbiased before being even being considered
a worthwhile source of RU info and deserving to be allowed to cover RU FB practice.
I think you know that I wasn't referring to Flood and former RU HC's like Terry Shea.
Why can't RU fans like you aim for a higher level and aspire to be like Iowa, Michigan State, etc ? We have a coaching staff onboard now that can make it happen.
Those like you who live in the past like to look in the rear view mirror of life. If it didn't work then why should it work now ?
Stop being a dinosaur and embrace the new RU coaching staff. You will feel better in the morning and have less regrets in the long run. I can't help you with any better advice than that. But carry on as you will.
LOL, you bring up a previous HC and I bring up to others to counter your obsession then you whine about bringing up the past.
I brought up the RU HC just let go and the one that was before the HC you try to fit in every conversation and then call me a name.:okay:[thumb2] because you don't like my reply.
What you were referring to was that HC not succeeding in making RU a top program.
You're right about that, but don't try to spin it as you were referring to programs like Iowa, Michigan State, etc.
It was your typical Schiano bash you put in every chance you get, nothing else.
I gave my typical reply to that and I'll be honest enough to admit it.
As for :>"We have a coaching staff onboard now that can make it happen."<
I believe your right.
But remember, when you bring up something or someone from the past, don't be surprised if
the reply you receive is about the issue or person you brought up.
"It was hard for Greg to win at the D1 level. Others guys not so much." is what you brought up and I brought up other past RU HCs in reply.
Maybe you should have included the it wasn't hard for the coaches that followed Hayden Fry Duffy Daugherty and thrown in Barry Alveraz as a ect for good measure .
That way others would know what you intended to say instead of just going by what you posted and replying to that.
A Dinosaur :D
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When I wrote "other coaches not so much" I was not referring to previous RU HC's, but to HC's that have had success in D1, like B1G HC's you mentioned who have had success.
It was Greg that said winning in D1 was difficult. I was simply agreeing with him, especially when it came to his coaching record at RU.
You have a bit of a hair trigger when anything less than ultimate praise is directed at Greg. It's almost like you consider yourself the self appointed protector of the Schiano Shrine. Let it go. He has had two jobs since RU and we are on our 2nd HC since he departed.
Spin it anyway you like, I just try to make you explain why you feel a need to bring him into conversations every chance you get.
I like your new spin on what you meant by posting : >"It was hard for Greg to win at the D1 level. Others guys not so much."<
I'm sure I'm the only one that didn't understand you were quoting Schiano and agreeing with him.
But this statement by you confuses me: > "we are on our 2nd HC since he departed"<
Didn't you previously say : "I think you know that I wasn't referring to Flood and former RU HC's like Terry Shea."<
Seems like you're now saying you were referring to Flood in your latest attempt to explain yourself .
Don't bother posting a new spin I'll accept this latest one so you don't have to come up with a new one .
I expect you to bring his name up again in threads that have nothing to do with him and I'll still be asking you why .
Now if you brought up his name because of the way he handled the media or ran his practices, I could see why you brought him up in this thread :victory:
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Madhat1,
I didn't bring Greg's name up in this thread, NickyNewark51 did. I responded to his post when my words were intercepted by your radar beam. Read and learn.
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NickyNewark51: Why not....i doubt Hoke worried much either until he walked out with his 4 and 5 star team on the losing side....like GS said...people don't realize how hard it its to win at the D! level....usually the detail oriented team comes out ahead!!
Me: It was hard for Greg to win at the D1 level. Others guys not so much.
I didn't bring Greg's name up in this thread, NickyNewark51 did. I responded to his post when my words were intercepted by your radar beam. Read and learn.
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NickyNewark51: Why not....i doubt Hoke worried much either until he walked out with his 4 and 5 star team on the losing side....like GS said...people don't realize how hard it its to win at the D! level....usually the detail oriented team comes out ahead!!
Me: It was hard for Greg to win at the D1 level. Others guys not so much.
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Rutgers Football Has One Key Advantage In Opener At Washington
Rutgers Football Has One Key Advantage In Opener At Washington
Ok I'll accept your explanation and this thread can get back to the issue OP raised.
