OT: Dry January

[ruinac]

I do not preach against the use of pot or alcohol but there is some evidence that long term pot usage impacts brain function later in life.

Cognitive effects in midlife of long-term cannabis use - Harvard Health

As more US states have legalized recreational cannabis or passed medical cannabis laws, public perception that cannabis is a harmless substance is growing. But its long-term benefits and ris...

www.health.harvard.edu

“Long-term cannabis users' IQs declined by 5.5 points on average from childhood, and there were deficits in learning and processing speed compared to people that did not use cannabis. The more frequently an individual used cannabis, the greater the resulting cognitive impairment, suggesting a potential causative link.

The study also found that people who knew these long-term cannabis users well observed that they had developed memory and attention problems.”

My 68 year brother in law smoked daily from his early twenties to late forties. The decline in his cognitive function is striking and obvious to every one. Even his 99 year old mother can see it and comments on it.

 

[RUbacker]

You shouldn't be saying this because...it's just not true.

There's ample science that has connected heavy cannabis use to psychotic disorders (e.g. schizophrenia). This is well established now and the early findings are setting the stage for further confirmatory research. Schizophrenics have a 2.5x rate of death relative to a general population.

Cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder - PMC

We briefly review the evidence that cannabis use in adolescence and young adulthood is a contributory cause of schizophreniform psychoses, by summarising longitudinal studies that: a) have examined relationships between cannabis use and the risk of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Assessing rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms across observational, experimental and medical research - Nature Mental Health

The authors synthesize data from previous literature on observational, experimental and medicinal cannabis research to assess rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms.

www.nature.com

thanks for educating that little boy yessir. he likes weed so suddenly it’s great for you and ZERO deaths or problems.

 

[yessir321]

You shouldn't be saying this because...it's just not true.

There's ample science that has connected heavy cannabis use to psychotic disorders (e.g. schizophrenia). This is well established now and the early findings are setting the stage for further confirmatory research. Schizophrenics have a 2.5x rate of death relative to a general population.

Cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder - PMC

We briefly review the evidence that cannabis use in adolescence and young adulthood is a contributory cause of schizophreniform psychoses, by summarising longitudinal studies that: a) have examined relationships between cannabis use and the risk of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Assessing rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms across observational, experimental and medical research - Nature Mental Health

The authors synthesize data from previous literature on observational, experimental and medicinal cannabis research to assess rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms.

www.nature.com

lol, bud, the amount of cannabis one needs to consume to become schizophrenic is an absurd amount, like copious amounts of concentrate, RSO, etc. It’d be like the equivalent of taking a 750ml bottle of jack Daniel’s and chugging the entire thing. Over and over again.

The daily smoker even is not going to develop scitzophrenia. Additionally is it the schizophrenia that caused the death or the Marijuana assuming something happens as a result of the schizophrenia? I’m entirely serious when I make that argument as well as I’ve heard over and over and over again ‘guns don’t kill people, people do’ when discussing the legitimate #1 cause of death in this country of children. But that’s a different discussion.

Comparing Alcohol to Cannabis in terms of health risks is like comparing Xanax to Aspirin.. sure both have some risks, but it’s silly to have the argument which one is riskier

 

[yessir321]

I do not preach against the use of pot or alcohol but there is some evidence that long term pot usage impacts brain function later in life.

Cognitive effects in midlife of long-term cannabis use - Harvard Health

As more US states have legalized recreational cannabis or passed medical cannabis laws, public perception that cannabis is a harmless substance is growing. But its long-term benefits and ris...

www.health.harvard.edu

“Long-term cannabis users' IQs declined by 5.5 points on average from childhood, and there were deficits in learning and processing speed compared to people that did not use cannabis. The more frequently an individual used cannabis, the greater the resulting cognitive impairment, suggesting a potential causative link.

The study also found that people who knew these long-term cannabis users well observed that they had developed memory and attention problems.”

My 68 year brother in law smoked daily from his early twenties to late forties. The decline in his cognitive function is striking and obvious to every one. Even his 99 year old mother can see it and comments on it.

Oh I don’t disagree on cognitive function, the same occurs with daily drinkers as well.

I don’t say this to be harsh though, but if you’re brother is 68 and losing cognitive function, unfortunately it’s probably not the cannibas he consumed daily 15+ years ago that he hasn’t had in his system for years. Unfortunately, he’s probably developing something that happens to a lot of us when we get older.

It sucks man and I’m sorry, my dad started to slip at 69 years old (never smoked) and unfortunately today at 74 he requires assistance as the dimentia has taken over. It’s heartbreaking to watch and in all seriousness if you need someone to talk to as you’re family is going through this I’m here to help and you can send me a DM

 

[yessir321]

thanks for educating that little boy yessir. he likes weed so suddenly it’s great for you and ZERO deaths or problems.

Little boy?

Bro, comparing heavy weed use to getting schizophrenia that less than 0.001% of people who use cannibas receive to the GUARENTEE of health risks with daily consumption of alcohol is absurd. Absolutely absurd.

But hey if you wanna remain ignorant on something and keep on a losing fight that will never go your way be my guest.

Absolutely ridiculous that in 2025 we still have morons who buy into the Reefer Madness and believe Weed is as harmful as alcohol. Stupidity, truly

 

[vkj91]

Little boy?

Bro, comparing heavy weed use to getting schizophrenia that less than 0.001% of people who use cannibas receive to the GUARENTEE of health risks with daily consumption of alcohol is absurd. Absolutely absurd.

But hey if you wanna remain ignorant on something and keep on a losing fight that will never go your way be my guest.

Absolutely ridiculous that in 2025 we still have morons who buy into the Reefer Madness and believe Weed is as harmful as alcohol. Stupidity, truly

Weed doesn’t have to be “as harmful” as alcohol. You are claiming there is zero harm to weed use and it’s not so.

 

[Randal7]

lol, bud, the amount of cannabis one needs to consume to become schizophrenic is an absurd amount, like copious amounts of concentrate, RSO, etc. It’d be like the equivalent of taking a 750ml bottle of jack Daniel’s and chugging the entire thing. Over and over again.

The daily smoker even is not going to develop scitzophrenia. Additionally is it the schizophrenia that caused the death or the Marijuana assuming something happens as a result of the schizophrenia? I’m entirely serious when I make that argument as well as I’ve heard over and over and over again ‘guns don’t kill people, people do’ when discussing the legitimate #1 cause of death in this country of children. But that’s a different discussion.

Comparing Alcohol to Cannabis in terms of health risks is like comparing Xanax to Aspirin.. sure both have some risks, but it’s silly to have the argument which one is riskier

I have no issue with you (or anyone) smoking. It's a free country and I'm a liberty loving person.

Where I do have an issue is you intimating cannabis is relatively risk free. That's just not true. And, it's just flatly false to state that no one has ever died as a consequence of using marijuana. You can be a little more even handed and still get your point across.

And your xanax to aspirin comparison is also bizarre if your goal was to demonstrate some equivalency and put us at ease, as both products can kill you fairly easily and are high risk if used inappropriately.

 

[yessir321]

Weed doesn’t have to be “as harmful” as alcohol. You are claiming there is zero harm to weed use and it’s not so.

No, NOT what I said AT ALL. I said very clearly that Weed does not cause DEATH by itself. That is a proven fact. No one in the history of time has ever OD’d from weed. No one has ever smoked/consumed so much that it killed them without other actions taking place. One cannot become physically addicted to weed, they CAN however become physically dependent on alcohol.

Why do you think liquor stores were considered ‘essential business’ during covid? People have literal physical dependence on booze and the hospitals would have been even more overrun with folks suffering withdrawals. In fact of all street drugs only Heroin is more physically debilitating that alcohol for those dependant. Alcohol alone causes 500+ deaths PER DAY in the United States alone and unfortunately is so prevalent that likely everyone on this board knows someone who either died or has had serious medical conditions as a result of booze, meanwhile have to resort to articles online to find the same anecdotal evidence for weed because it’s so uncommon and they themselves don’t personally know anyone who’se suffered legitimate health concerns from weed.

If you can’t make the separation, I don’t know what to tell you. As far as which substance causes more harm to humans when consumed, it’s alcohol by a mile.

Meanwhile there are very legitimate health benefits from marijuana particularly for some illness. It’s a miracle drug for those with epilepsy

 

[Randal7]

No, NOT what I said AT ALL. I said very clearly that Weed does not cause DEATH by itself. That is a proven fact. No one in the history of time has ever OD’d from weed. No one has ever smoked/consumed so much that it killed them without other actions taking place.

Meanwhile, alcohol alone causes 500+ deaths PER DAY in the United States alone.

If you can’t make the separation, I don’t know what to tell you. As far as which substance causes more harm to humans when consumed, its alcohol by a mile

If you read the papers I attached you'll understand that the cumulative effects of marijuana consumption lead to excess death. In the same way chronic cigarette smoking leads to health complications, so does chronic marijuana consumption, with strong correlations to concentration/dose.

To spotlight for you how silly your argument sounds, let me just re-state it.

"A Cigarette does not cause DEATH by itself. That is a proven fact. No one in the history of time has ever OD'd from a cigarette. No one has ever smoked/consumed so much that it killed them without other actions taking place"


^ Yeah. The cigarette didn't kill them. The heart disease and lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis did. As a consequence of chronic exposure.

 

[yessir321]

If you read the papers I attached you'll understand that the cumulative effects of marijuana consumption lead to excess death. In the same way chronic cigarette smoking leads to health complications, so does chronic marijuana consumption, with strong correlations to concentration/dose.

To spotlight for you how silly your argument sounds, let me just re-state it.

"A Cigarette does not cause DEATH by itself. That is a proven fact. No one in the history of time has ever OD'd from a cigarette. No one has ever smoked/consumed so much that it killed them without other actions taking place"


^ Yeah. The cigarette didn't kill them. The heart disease and lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis did. As a consequence of chronic exposure.

Tell me how eating a gummy does any of that?

Truly can you explain? If you wanna talk smoking sure! There’s health risks whenever you inhale anything besides oxygen to your body. I personally still puff on the occasional joint but mainly use edibles and RSO these days specifically for that reason of not inhaling outside substances.

So could you kindly explain how popping a gummy or RSO is equivalent to smoking a cigarette when there is no smoke or inhaling involved whatsoever?

 

[bethlehemfan]

If you read the papers I attached you'll understand that the cumulative effects of marijuana consumption lead to excess death. In the same way chronic cigarette smoking leads to health complications, so does chronic marijuana consumption, with strong correlations to concentration/dose.

To spotlight for you how silly your argument sounds, let me just re-state it.

"A Cigarette does not cause DEATH by itself. That is a proven fact. No one in the history of time has ever OD'd from a cigarette. No one has ever smoked/consumed so much that it killed them without other actions taking place"


^ Yeah. The cigarette didn't kill them. The heart disease and lung cancer and pulmonary fibrosis did. As a consequence of chronic exposure.

For people who are unable to moderate weed can destroy their lives. I know this from personal experience. In some ways it’s more insidious than alcohol (not saying it’s worse overall) because for some alcohol is self limiting because of the body’s reaction. Weed doesn’t come with feeling awful the next day. You also have uneducated people telling everyone it’s not harmful.

 

[yessir321]

I have no issue with you (or anyone) smoking. It's a free country and I'm a liberty loving person.

Where I do have an issue is you intimating cannabis is relatively risk free. That's just not true. And, it's just flatly false to state that no one has ever died as a consequence of using marijuana. You can be a little more even handed and still get your point across.

And your xanax to aspirin comparison is also bizarre if your goal was to demonstrate some equivalency and put us at ease, as both products can kill you fairly easily and are high risk if used inappropriately.

Dude when did I say it was risk free?

What I said was it by itself DOES NOT CAUSE DEATH. It’s not that complicated. Alcohol consumption is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for 500+ deaths per day in the US alone. Marijuana by itself is directly responsible for 0 deaths per day in america.

But to your point prove me wrong! Find me the artical or anechdote of just ONE EXAMPLE of someone dying from Cannabis. I’ll wait, find the article, cite your sources. You can’t find it

I was initial addressing a poster who implied that replacing alcohol with weed was as bad for one’s health.. that’s an absurd statement. Point blank it’s absurd.

You will not find a doctor on earth who will tell you cannabis is as harmful to the body as alcohol. THAT’S the the whole point.

Ya’ll are acting like I said there’s no risks to consuming cannabis, I never said that. I said it didn’t cause death… it doesn’t. And when consumed via edible one eliminates any of the ‘smoking’ risks

As far as the Xanax to aspirin comparison, it’s extremely accurate and if you need me to elaborate you’re just trying to play semantics.

Doesn’t matter bud, weed isn’t going away👍🏾

 

[yessir321]

For people who are unable to moderate weed can destroy their lives. I know this from personal experience. In some ways it’s more insidious than alcohol (not saying it’s worse overall) because for some alcohol is self limiting because of the body’s reaction. Weed doesn’t come with feeling awful the next day. You also have uneducated people telling everyone it’s not harmful.

Ok I give up.

The fact that some of ya’ll are making the leap of me saying ‘it doesn’t cause death’ to ‘it’s not harmful’ is absurd.

Clearly some of ya’ll lack the ability to comprehend words

 

[vkj91]

Tell me how eating a gummy does any of that?

Truly can you explain? If you wanna talk smoking sure! There’s health risks whenever you inhale anything besides oxygen to your body. I personally still puff on the occasional joint but mainly use edibles and RSO these days specifically for that reason of not inhaling outside substances.

So could you kindly explain how popping a gummy or RSO is equivalent to smoking a cigarette when there is no smoke or inhaling involved whatsoever?

Delayed Onset and High Potential for Overdose​

Perhaps the most prominent difference between smoking marijuana and eating edibles is the delayed onset of effects associated with edibles. Whereas the 5 This delay can result in some people consuming a greater than intended amount of drug before it has taken effect.

Marijuana overdose is also referred to as acute marijuana intoxication.6 Research has shown that edibles are the form of marijuana consumption most likely to lead to emergency room visits for marijuana overdose, and the authors of at least one study believe that this is due to the failure of users to fully understand the delayed effects of these products.7

Serious Negative Side Effects​

The symptoms associated with eating highly potent edibles are often much more severe than the symptoms experienced after smoking marijuana.

According to Dr. Nora Volkow, the current director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, edibles are now being associated with “medical complications that we never knew were associated with marijuana”.8

Some of the more adverse effects associated with the consumption of edibles include:1,9

• Drowsiness.
• Confusion.
• Vomiting.
• Anxiety and panic attacks.
• Agitation.
• Psychotic episodes.
• Hallucinations.
• Paranoia.
• Impaired motor ability.
• Respiratory depression.
• Heart problems (ranging from irregular heartbeat to heart attack).

Increased Likelihood to Cause Self-Harm or Hurt Others​

Due to the delayed onset and uncertain potency of edibles, many people who use these products may unintentionally consume excessively high amounts of THC.

One of the consequences of taking in too much of the drug too quickly is users can become violent or unaware of their actions. These individuals may exhibit self-harming behaviors or hurt others while in this state, behaviors that they likely never would have engaged in while sober.

There have been several tragic incidents caused by unusual and risky behaviors stemming from the consumption of edibles. One man, while on a family ski trip, shot himself in the head hours after ingesting a number of marijuana-laced candies.10

Another man, while on a spring break trip with college friends, plummeted to his death after jumping off his 4th floor hotel room balcony mere hours after consuming a marijuana cookie.11

Another man was recently sentenced to 30 years in prison for the fatal shooting of his wife.12 Prior to her death, the wife had called 911 out of concern for the erratic behavior and hallucinations that her husband was experiencing after eating marijuana-laced candies.

 

[yessir321]

Delayed Onset and High Potential for Overdose​

Perhaps the most prominent difference between smoking marijuana and eating edibles is the delayed onset of effects associated with edibles. Whereas the 5 This delay can result in some people consuming a greater than intended amount of drug before it has taken effect.

Marijuana overdose is also referred to as acute marijuana intoxication.6 Research has shown that edibles are the form of marijuana consumption most likely to lead to emergency room visits for marijuana overdose, and the authors of at least one study believe that this is due to the failure of users to fully understand the delayed effects of these products.7

Serious Negative Side Effects​

The symptoms associated with eating highly potent edibles are often much more severe than the symptoms experienced after smoking marijuana.

According to Dr. Nora Volkow, the current director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, edibles are now being associated with “medical complications that we never knew were associated with marijuana”.8

Some of the more adverse effects associated with the consumption of edibles include:1,9

• Drowsiness.
• Confusion.
• Vomiting.
• Anxiety and panic attacks.
• Agitation.
• Psychotic episodes.
• Hallucinations.
• Paranoia.
• Impaired motor ability.
• Respiratory depression.
• Heart problems (ranging from irregular heartbeat to heart attack).

Increased Likelihood to Cause Self-Harm or Hurt Others​

Due to the delayed onset and uncertain potency of edibles, many people who use these products may unintentionally consume excessively high amounts of THC.

One of the consequences of taking in too much of the drug too quickly is users can become violent or unaware of their actions. These individuals may exhibit self-harming behaviors or hurt others while in this state, behaviors that they likely never would have engaged in while sober.

There have been several tragic incidents caused by unusual and risky behaviors stemming from the consumption of edibles. One man, while on a family ski trip, shot himself in the head hours after ingesting a number of marijuana-laced candies.10

Another man, while on a spring break trip with college friends, plummeted to his death after jumping off his 4th floor hotel room balcony mere hours after consuming a marijuana cookie.11

Another man was recently sentenced to 30 years in prison for the fatal shooting of his wife.12 Prior to her death, the wife had called 911 out of concern for the erratic behavior and hallucinations that her husband was experiencing after eating marijuana-laced candies.

Hahahahahaha

Oh my god dude you’re now comparing old folks who are revisiting marijuana for the first time in 25 years who take too high of doses, freak themselves out and go to the ER thinking they’re having a heart attack when in reality that are fine and simply having an anxiety attack. No one dies from that bud, THAT’s the point. Meanwhile go out on your 21st birthday and take 21 shots of booze plus mixed drinks you will find yourself in the hospital for very legitimate reasons and possible alcohol poisoning. That’s CAN kill you, THAT’S the point!

That’s the equivalent you are making here. Someone who doesn’t know what they are doing consuming far too much and are unprepared to what feelings they are about to experience. It happens majority with the 55+ age group

I’m really not sure the point ya’ll are trying to make is, are you really THAT STUPID to believe cannibas is as harmful to the human body as alcohol? Truly are you that stupid?!

 

[Randal7]

Tell me how eating a gummy does any of that?

Truly can you explain? If you wanna talk smoking sure! There’s health risks whenever you inhale anything besides oxygen to your body. I personally still puff on the occasional joint but mainly use edibles and RSO these days specifically for that reason of not inhaling outside substances.

So could you kindly explain how popping a gummy or RSO is equivalent to smoking a cigarette when there is no smoke or inhaling involved whatsoever?

Read. The. Papers.

Can you do that? Or have you been compromised to such an extent where you can't read and synthesize a scientific publication?

 

[Randal7]

Dude when did I say it was risk free?

What I said was it by itself DOES NOT CAUSE DEATH. It’s not that complicated. Alcohol consumption is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for 500+ deaths per day in the US alone. Marijuana by itself is directly responsible for 0 deaths per day in america.

But to your point prove me wrong! Find me the artical or anechdote of just ONE EXAMPLE of someone dying from Cannabis. I’ll wait, find the article, cite your sources. You can’t find it

I was initial addressing a poster who implied that replacing alcohol with weed was as bad for one’s health.. that’s an absurd statement. Point blank it’s absurd.

You will not find a doctor on earth who will tell you cannabis is as harmful to the body as alcohol. THAT’S the the whole point.

Ya’ll are acting like I said there’s no risks to consuming cannabis, I never said that. I said it didn’t cause death… it doesn’t. And when consumed via edible one eliminates any of the ‘smoking’ risks

you didn't say that. you said this:

Not harsh at all, comparing something that causes 500+ deaths PER DAY in this country alone to something that has ZERO deaths on record and PROVEN medical benefits is absurd.

 

[yessir321]

you didn't say that. you said this:

Not harsh at all, comparing something that causes 500+ deaths PER DAY in this country alone to something that has ZERO deaths on record and PROVEN medical benefits is absurd.

Correct, I said it didn’t cause deaths and has proven medical benefits. Both are accurate statements. Can you kindly point out where I was talking about anything besides death here?

I’ve been talking about death and comparing weed to alcohol this entire thread man.

If you wanna live in a world where you believe cannabis is as harmful as alcohol to humans, be my guest. No one will take you seriously

 

[yessir321]

Read. The. Papers.

Can you do that? Or have you been compromised to such an extent where you can't read and synthesize a scientific publication?

I read the papers, it focused on actual SMOKING of cannabis. Anyone can tell you that inhaling anything other than oxygen is not good for you.

I asked you what about consuming gummies, RSO which involve no smoking at all and you responded with ‘read the artical about smoking’

Stay mad bro, and maybe consider popping a gummy, you could use it👍🏾

 

[Randal7]

I read the papers, it focused on actual SMOKING of cannabis. Anyone can tell you that inhaling anything other than oxygen is not good for you.

I asked you what about consuming gummies, RSO which involve no smoking at all and you responded with ‘read the artical about smoking’

Stay mad bro, and maybe consider popping a gummy, you could use it👍🏾

You didn't read the articles. There is no specific inclusion criteria for either paper on "smoking" as the modality. You made that up. Completely fabricated that.

This...is a complete waste of time.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Ok I give up.

The fact that some of ya’ll are making the leap of me saying ‘it doesn’t cause death’ to ‘it’s not harmful’ is absurd.

Clearly some of ya’ll lack the ability to comprehend words

I was making a general psa, not replying directly to any of your posts.

 

[yessir321]

You didn't read the articles. There is no specific inclusion criteria for either paper on "smoking" as the modality. You made that up. Completely fabricated that.

This...is a complete waste of time.

Dude what do you think the comparable to marijuana and cigarettes are! Are you really that stupid to believe that a gummy causes the breathing/lung issues referenced in that article that you brought up? Do you actually think a gummy contributes to lung cancer?

Thats a real question as well, are you really THAT stupid?!

 

[Randal7]

Dude what do you think the comparable to marijuana and cigarettes are! Are you really that stupid to believe that a gummy causes the breathing/lung issues referenced in that article? Do you actually think a gummy contributes to lung cancer?

Thats a real question as well, are you really THAT stupid?!

...there are no breathing and lung issues referenced in the articles... at no point is that mentioned.

You didn't even open them.

 

[DJ Spanky]

The resident pothead doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[yessir321]

...there are no breathing and lung issues referenced in the articles... at no point is that mentioned.

You didn't even open them.

You brought them up! YOU DID THAT! You compared cigarettes to cannibas, YOU brought up lung cancer! That was you!!!

Now if you wanna hang your argument on the idea that copious amounts of cannabis use causes psychosis and schizophrenia be my guest. You still have not shown how it is more harmful than alcohol with is THE ENTIRE POINT. I mean for context here, to consume the amount of cannabis required to go skitzophrenic in terms of alcohol consumption would give a person alcohol poisoning. It’s the equivolent of drinking a 750 ml bottle of JD by yourself while chasing it with a 12 pack of beer in one evening. Do that much weed, you find yourself in psychosis, do that much booze, you find yourself DEAD

You also haven shown a single example of anyone dying from marijuana alone… because it doesn’t exist. Meanwhile I can show you hundreds of cases DAILY where alcohol alone causes death.

For some reason, ya’ll are caught up in the idea that you need to convince people weed is as or more harmful than booze to humans, it’s simply not true

 

[Randal7]

You brought them up! YOU DID THAT! You compared cigarettes to cannibas, YOU brought up lung cancer! That was you!!!

Now if you wanna hang your argument on the idea that copious amounts of cannabis use causes psychosis and schizophrenia be my guest. You still have not shown how it is more harmful than alcohol with is THE ENTIRE POINT. You also haven shown a single example of anyone dying from marijuana alone… because it doesn’t exist. Meanwhile I can show you hundreds of cases DAILY where alcohol alone causes death.

For some reason, ya’ll are caught up in the idea that you need to convince people weed is as or more harmful than booze to humans, it’s simply not true

...

🤦‍♂️

Did you graduate Rutgers? if so, when and what major?

 

[yessir321]

...

🤦‍♂️

Did you graduate Rutgers? if so, when and what major?

2011 bachelors business. 3.7 GPA and a 4 year letterman as an athlete (lacrosse). I work for a home builder as one of the top agents in the DC metro, my team alone did over $25 million in sales in 2024. I have 5 employees directly working for me.

It’s because of my education that I can understand the absurdity of someone trying to argue that cannabis is as harmful as alcohol to humans.

Like you genuinely are a fool for thinking this

 

[T2Kplus20]

You shouldn't be saying this because...it's just not true.

There's ample science that has connected heavy cannabis use to psychotic disorders (e.g. schizophrenia). This is well established now and the early findings are setting the stage for further confirmatory research. Schizophrenics have a 2.5x rate of death relative to a general population.

Cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder - PMC

We briefly review the evidence that cannabis use in adolescence and young adulthood is a contributory cause of schizophreniform psychoses, by summarising longitudinal studies that: a) have examined relationships between cannabis use and the risk of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Assessing rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms across observational, experimental and medical research - Nature Mental Health

The authors synthesize data from previous literature on observational, experimental and medicinal cannabis research to assess rates and predictors of cannabis-associated psychotic symptoms.

www.nature.com

+1
Also, tons of documented evidence that smoking weed by anyone under 25 years old causes irreversible brain damage impacting memory, attention, and learning. The death rate of such people is way higher than the general population.

Evolving research is going to prove that alcohol is the new tobacco and weed is not too far behind.

 

[Randal7]

2011 bachelors business. 3.7 GPA and a 4 year letterman as an athlete (lacrosse)

It’s because of my education that I can understand the absurdity of someone trying to argue that cannabis is as harmful as alcohol to humans.

Like you genuinely are a fool for thinking this

ya...again...you are having trouble interpreting. I never said that. Never once did I say that, nor did I even hint at that.

I'm concerned you are communicating this medical advice to your friends, family, etc. You should stop.

 

[Randal7]

+1
Also, tons of documented evidence that smoking weed by anyone under 25 years old causes irreversible brain damage impacting memory, attention, and learning. The death rate of such people is way higher than the general population.

Evolving research is going to prove that alcohol is the new tobacco and weed is not too far behind.

Ya. Exactly. It takes someone with a capacity to synthesize evidence to understand this. Which, clearly you've got.

This discussion has gone completely off the rails b/c this gent is conflating acute cannabis psychosis with chronic schizophrenia due to long term, recurrent cannabis use (regardless of whether smoked or ingested) and then bizarrely saying, "no one ever died" and then doubling down with a "well it's not as bad as alcohol".

Very convincing. Very articulate. As cool as the other side of the pillow.

 

[yessir321]

ya...again...you are having trouble interpreting. I never said that. Never once did I say that, nor did I even hint at that.

I'm concerned you are communicating this medical advice to your friends, family, etc. You should stop.

Then why the hell are you commenting?

Literally this entire time I’ve been addressing a poster who made the claim that cannabis was as harmful as booze and how absurd that was. YOU jumped to conclusions and thought I was saying weed is completely harmless, NEVER said that. I was addressing TK who claimed it was as harmful as booze

Jesus Christ what a swing and miss in your part, you haven’t even been following along with what I’ve been arguing the whole time. Holy crap man, WOW!

 

[T2Kplus20]

I do not preach against the use of pot or alcohol but there is some evidence that long term pot usage impacts brain function later in life.

Cognitive effects in midlife of long-term cannabis use - Harvard Health

As more US states have legalized recreational cannabis or passed medical cannabis laws, public perception that cannabis is a harmless substance is growing. But its long-term benefits and ris...

www.health.harvard.edu

“Long-term cannabis users' IQs declined by 5.5 points on average from childhood, and there were deficits in learning and processing speed compared to people that did not use cannabis. The more frequently an individual used cannabis, the greater the resulting cognitive impairment, suggesting a potential causative link.

The study also found that people who knew these long-term cannabis users well observed that they had developed memory and attention problems.”

My 68 year brother in law smoked daily from his early twenties to late forties. The decline in his cognitive function is striking and obvious to every one. Even his 99 year old mother can see it and comments on it.

This type of evidence will just continue to grow more and more as studies are conducted. Smoking, alcohol, weed.....use them and you are deciding to cause harm to your minds and bodies.

 

[yessir321]

+1
Also, tons of documented evidence that smoking weed by anyone under 25 years old causes irreversible brain damage impacting memory, attention, and learning. The death rate of such people is way higher than the general population.

Evolving research is going to prove that alcohol is the new tobacco and weed is not too far behind.

Yea, same thing with booze bud.

Now please explain to me how cannabis is more dangerous than booze as you implied 2 pages ago?

 

[yessir321]

This type of evidence will just continue to grow more and more as studies are conducted. Smoking, alcohol, weed.....use them and you are deciding to cause harm to your minds and bodies.

And when you’re wrong god knows you’ll never admit it.. because you’re incapable of being wrong about anything isn’t that right old fart?

 

[Randal7]

Then why the hell are you commenting?

Literally this entire time I’ve been addressing a poster who made the claim the cannabis was as harmful as booze and how absurd that was. YOU jumped to conclusions and thought I was saying weed is complete harmless, NEVER said that. I was addressing TK who claimed it was.

Jesus Christ what a swing and miss in your part, you haven’t even been following along with what I’ve been arguing the whole time. Holy crap man, WOW!

Ya. I'm the idiot. Guilty as charged.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Ya. I'm the idiot. Guilty as charged.

He's pretty much proving our cited research correct. LOL! Sad to see.

 

[DJ Spanky]

He's pretty much proving our cited research correct. LOL! Sad to see.

Can the posts in this thread be included as part of the research?

 

[yessir321]

He's pretty much proving our cited research correct. LOL! Sad to see.

Yea that’s it!

Tell me again how cannabis is as harmful as booze.

Dude you’re genuinely turned into a miserable troll since the divorce. I’m sorry you’re so unhappy bro but literally every post you’re complaining and trying to argue.

It’s sad to see. But keep on boozing man! Don’t take it from me who’se had 4 family members die from booze before they turned 60

 

[yessir321]

Can the posts in this thread be included as part of the research?

Way to be a troll Douchebag

The fact that some of ya’ll are this offended at the idea that cannabis is less harmful than booze.

Truly whats the average age of the posters on this board? 68?

 

[yessir321]

Ya. I'm the idiot. Guilty as charged.

Clearly as you didn’t understand at all what I was arguing. In spite of ur attempt to be sarcastic here…

Never once did I say weed was completely safe, what I said was it didn’t kill people and booze does. And for some reason that set off a few old farts who are still convinced that a pregnant woman shouldnt stand too close to the microwave