We'd deserve every bit of mocking we'd get if we were dumb enough to hire Williams. There's nothing about it that's a good idea.
If that's the case, wouldn't Jay Williams actually be a positive for this program as with our lack of facilities which area huge negative against us, he'd be able to recruit top tier talent? And if you say, "well there's no track record of him recruiting, so how do you know?" He's a young black coach, who is very well known and from NJ, he'd kill it recruiting.
I fixed it for you.I can only imagine this board if Jay Williams is hired. If he gets the job, I'm not even going to bother complaining. I'm just going straight to the closest church, synagogue, mosque, AND temple to pray for divine intervention.
I think bringing him on as an assistant is a good idea. UNC did it with Hubert Davis who had never been a coach also. While I don't support Williams as HC I think he brings some recognition and credibility from being on ESPN and I think he can help with the development of our guards. As an assistant it's not a bad choice.
I can agree too, but that is really up to the Head Coach. Do we really want the AD to start dictating who will be an Assistant CoachI can agree with this, as assistant he could play a very good role
Pretty sure the big knock against Jordan was his pathetic record coupled with his team lacking fundamentals.we just fired a loyal son who was a player and had connections. The big knock was he was a NBA coach, now some people want to hire a guy who isnt even a coach...brilliant
haha I love some of these responses.....it so easy to be a coach and so easy to recruit especially to here..no experience needed because we have a bunch of blind faithers who just assume it just happen
amazing how 25 years of futility makes people forget how hard it is to coach and recruit here but geez Jay Wiliams he is the second coming of Jesus..he do it all.
this is not accurate...he took a depleted URI who had 7 wins when he left to 8 to 14 to 23 to 17 in a season he lost a NBA player to injury. And your total disregard for his clout in NJ recruiting and knowing the state is evident. He took Wagner to 25-5 didnt make the NCAA that year and left to go to URI...the hate on this board is stunning, we wont be getting any other qualified candidates. The other choice might be the Stony Brook guy
I think bringing him on as an assistant is a good idea. UNC did it with Hubert Davis who had never been a coach also. While I don't support Williams as HC I think he brings some recognition and credibility from being on ESPN and I think he can help with the development of our guards. As an assistant it's not a bad choice.
You said in another thread "we won't be getting any other qualified candidates" if we don't get Hurley. Is your #2 still the Stony Brook guy? Who would YOU go to as #2 and #3 if Hurley and Lonergan decline? Is Sendek not going to happen?
+1I hope Williams was just a courtesy interview
Jim Calhoun as HC for 3 years w/Williams as potential coach in waiting. I'd be good with that.If a younger coach wants him, would be great for an older coach as a lead assistant and potential head coach in waiting.
Pretty sure the big knock against Jordan was his pathetic record coupled with his team lacking fundamentals.
If you throw that kind of scenario out there you'd have to think which "old" coach is a "realistic" choice? Calhoun? McKillop who's very comfortable down in Davidson. The "old" coach would also have to be amenable to the idea also as he may want to pass the job on to one of his own guys. So it sounds reasonable but in reality just hiring Williams outright is more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario.If a younger coach wants him, would be great for an older coach as a lead assistant and potential head coach in waiting.
I had this conversation with Fred Hill in Villanova's locker room a year before he was hired here. Scary that he was a good assistant coach and such a bad head coach.
This is why Jay Williams getting hired is scary. He could be a great hire but probably would be a really bad hire. I don't think the fan base can handle another crappy regime.
Congrats on lasting 15 minutes following your own advice to calm down.how do you know he can recruit..what is his track record. Fred Hill could recruit with the best of them yet when he got here it fell off. If this was such a slam dunk how come it isnt happen all over the country not even at low majors, how come colleges are not hiring 35 year old players with no coaching experience
We've had nothing but crappy regimes. You and I are still here.
PJ Carlesimo?If you throw that kind of scenario out there you'd have to think which "old" coach is a "realistic" choice? Calhoun? McKillop who's very comfortable down in Davidson. The "old" coach would also have to be amenable to the idea also as he may want to pass the job on to one of his own guys. So it sounds reasonable but in reality just hiring Williams outright is more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario.
Jay Williams is my favorite college basketball player ever and as a young dude, even though I don't think it's the right hire to make, I will accept it once it happens and he will be an idolized HC by Rutgers fans 25-35.
One thing this hire will accomplish is it will certainly help fundraise at least in year 1/2 which many posters believe is an important factor for the next coach.
If true why hasnt he been coaching anywhere..why dont other schools hire men with no experience coaching. What we need to do is get a coach and invest in the program for once. Its not rocket science. You dont have to make it more complicated than it is
Like that or Travis Ford who I don't think was an assistant anywhere but took a low level HC job and worked his way up into the mid majors and eventually Oklahoma State. Except for the 3 I mentioned above for college, all at their alma maters, I can't think of any others who took high level HC jobs as their first exposure to coaching.Just a point of reference re: Williams...
Damon Stoudamire, who had a very strong collegiate career and went on to more success in the NBA, has been an assistant at Memphis. He's expected to be named the HC of Pacific today. That's a pretty normal and typical path for a former star player trying to get into coaching. Not going from ESPN to a P5 HC.
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Jay Williams is my favorite college basketball player ever and as a young dude, even though I don't think it's the right hire to make, I will accept it once it happens and he will be an idolized HC by Rutgers fans 25-35.
One thing this hire will accomplish is it will certainly help fundraise at least in year 1/2 which many posters believe is an important factor for the next coach.
I am leary of the notion that a guy who was a very good player in any sport would naturally be a good coach. If anything the worst person to lead and develop a team is a guy with preternatural talent.
How would Michael Jordan explain to somebody how to play hoops, beyond "Do what I did."
Could Manny Ramirez teach somebody how to be a good hitter beyond saying "Just don't worry about the last at bat and swing"?
Could Michael Vick teach anybody how to be evasive and make plays with their feet?
Give me the gym rat that had to squeeze every ounce of talent they had and was always thinking about how to find an edge. Some experience actually coaching helps.
Does he even want to coach in college anymore? Coaching days not being over could just mean going back to an assistant job in the NBA again as opposed to retired. I don't know that it necessarily means college HC. Like I said the HCIW scenario sounds nice in theory but it's got more moving parts to it to make it reality. So as unrealistic as Williams being the HC seems it's probably more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario with Williams because in practice it's likely harder to pull off.PJ Carlesimo?
"The Scranton native is hoping his coaching days aren’t over but in the meantime, he’s comfortable as a talking head - as long as he’s talking about basketball."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...eads_to_Pennsylvania_Sports_Hall_of_Fame.html
so he couldnt coach fundamentals...a NBA coach but yet we expect a guy who zero coaching ability to be hunky dory and do everything..kiss babies, recruit, win, fundraise, manage egos..oh dont worry about the xs and os because it doesnt matter really. I mean its all about style and flash over substance