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Per NJ.Com Hurley and Jay Williams Have Interviewed

If that's the case, wouldn't Jay Williams actually be a positive for this program as with our lack of facilities which area huge negative against us, he'd be able to recruit top tier talent? And if you say, "well there's no track record of him recruiting, so how do you know?" He's a young black coach, who is very well known and from NJ, he'd kill it recruiting.


how do you know he can recruit..what is his track record. Fred Hill could recruit with the best of them yet when he got here it fell off. If this was such a slam dunk how come it isnt happen all over the country not even at low majors, how come colleges are not hiring 35 year old players with no coaching experience
 
I think bringing him on as an assistant is a good idea. UNC did it with Hubert Davis who had never been a coach also. While I don't support Williams as HC I think he brings some recognition and credibility from being on ESPN and I think he can help with the development of our guards. As an assistant it's not a bad choice.


I can agree with this, as assistant he could play a very good role
 
we just fired a loyal son who was a player and had connections. The big knock was he was a NBA coach, now some people want to hire a guy who isnt even a coach...brilliant
Pretty sure the big knock against Jordan was his pathetic record coupled with his team lacking fundamentals.
 
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haha I love some of these responses.....it so easy to be a coach and so easy to recruit especially to here..no experience needed because we have a bunch of blind faithers who just assume it just happen

amazing how 25 years of futility makes people forget how hard it is to coach and recruit here but geez Jay Wiliams he is the second coming of Jesus..he do it all.

this is not accurate...he took a depleted URI who had 7 wins when he left to 8 to 14 to 23 to 17 in a season he lost a NBA player to injury. And your total disregard for his clout in NJ recruiting and knowing the state is evident. He took Wagner to 25-5 didnt make the NCAA that year and left to go to URI...the hate on this board is stunning, we wont be getting any other qualified candidates. The other choice might be the Stony Brook guy

You said in another thread "we won't be getting any other qualified candidates" if we don't get Hurley. Is your #2 still the Stony Brook guy? Who would YOU go to as #2 and #3 if Hurley and Lonergan decline? Is Sendek not going to happen?
 
I am definitely far from sold on Williams as the new coach - and he is pretty far down on the list of who I would consider desirable candidates - but I would be shocked if he didn't absolutely knock it out of the park in recruiting in Year 1 and 2.
 
He'd be a very scary hire which is why I wouldn't go with him. I don't mind taking risks but that seems like a pretty big one. I always look for some justification when looking at candidates. With candidates with no experience at all it's hard to point to anything as a typical fan. What made some of these type of candidates with no experience solid to good choices and others not so much. And then does Williams have those same qualities/traits. As fans though, I don't know that we can see that readily without the track record.

If you want to stick strictly to college the only the names I could come up with on this level sort of, would be Hoiberg who was good, Mullin who has struggled in his first year and Drexler at Houston who was bad. All guys who coached at their alma maters.
 
I think bringing him on as an assistant is a good idea. UNC did it with Hubert Davis who had never been a coach also. While I don't support Williams as HC I think he brings some recognition and credibility from being on ESPN and I think he can help with the development of our guards. As an assistant it's not a bad choice.

If a younger coach wants him, would be great for an older coach as a lead assistant and potential head coach in waiting.
 
You said in another thread "we won't be getting any other qualified candidates" if we don't get Hurley. Is your #2 still the Stony Brook guy? Who would YOU go to as #2 and #3 if Hurley and Lonergan decline? Is Sendek not going to happen?


I dont know I guess Hobbs isnt interested in Sendek. I would go with the Stony Brook guy then the Manhattan coach. Hobbs and Hurley need to get this done and agreed upon IMO
 
Pretty sure the big knock against Jordan was his pathetic record coupled with his team lacking fundamentals.


so he couldnt coach fundamentals...a NBA coach but yet we expect a guy who zero coaching ability to be hunky dory and do everything..kiss babies, recruit, win, fundraise, manage egos..oh dont worry about the xs and os because it doesnt matter really. I mean its all about style and flash over substance
 
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If a younger coach wants him, would be great for an older coach as a lead assistant and potential head coach in waiting.
If you throw that kind of scenario out there you'd have to think which "old" coach is a "realistic" choice? Calhoun? McKillop who's very comfortable down in Davidson. The "old" coach would also have to be amenable to the idea also as he may want to pass the job on to one of his own guys. So it sounds reasonable but in reality just hiring Williams outright is more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario.
 
I had this conversation with Fred Hill in Villanova's locker room a year before he was hired here. Scary that he was a good assistant coach and such a bad head coach.

This is why Jay Williams getting hired is scary. He could be a great hire but probably would be a really bad hire. I don't think the fan base can handle another crappy regime.

We've had nothing but crappy regimes. You and I are still here.
 
how do you know he can recruit..what is his track record. Fred Hill could recruit with the best of them yet when he got here it fell off. If this was such a slam dunk how come it isnt happen all over the country not even at low majors, how come colleges are not hiring 35 year old players with no coaching experience
Congrats on lasting 15 minutes following your own advice to calm down.
 
Jay Williams is my favorite college basketball player ever and as a young dude, even though I don't think it's the right hire to make, I will accept it once it happens and he will be an idolized HC by Rutgers fans 25-35.

One thing this hire will accomplish is it will certainly help fundraise at least in year 1/2 which many posters believe is an important factor for the next coach.
 
If you throw that kind of scenario out there you'd have to think which "old" coach is a "realistic" choice? Calhoun? McKillop who's very comfortable down in Davidson. The "old" coach would also have to be amenable to the idea also as he may want to pass the job on to one of his own guys. So it sounds reasonable but in reality just hiring Williams outright is more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario.
PJ Carlesimo?

"The Scranton native is hoping his coaching days aren’t over but in the meantime, he’s comfortable as a talking head - as long as he’s talking about basketball."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...eads_to_Pennsylvania_Sports_Hall_of_Fame.html
 
Just a point of reference re: Williams...

Damon Stoudamire, who had a very strong collegiate career and went on to more success in the NBA, has been an assistant at Memphis. He's expected to be named the HC of Pacific today. That's a pretty normal and typical path for a former star player trying to get into coaching. Not going from ESPN to a P5 HC.
 
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I am leary of the notion that a guy who was a very good player in any sport would naturally be a good coach. If anything the worst person to lead and develop a team is a guy with preternatural talent.

How would Michael Jordan explain to somebody how to play hoops, beyond "Do what I did."
Could Manny Ramirez teach somebody how to be a good hitter beyond saying "Just don't worry about the last at bat and swing"?
Could Michael Vick teach anybody how to be evasive and make plays with their feet?

Give me the gym rat that had to squeeze every ounce of talent they had and was always thinking about how to find an edge. Some experience actually coaching helps.
 
Jay Williams is my favorite college basketball player ever and as a young dude, even though I don't think it's the right hire to make, I will accept it once it happens and he will be an idolized HC by Rutgers fans 25-35.

One thing this hire will accomplish is it will certainly help fundraise at least in year 1/2 which many posters believe is an important factor for the next coach.

Well those 25-35 year old fans aren't very good fundraising demographics so I'm not sure why you thinking it will help fundraising.
 
If true why hasnt he been coaching anywhere..why dont other schools hire men with no experience coaching. What we need to do is get a coach and invest in the program for once. Its not rocket science. You dont have to make it more complicated than it is

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Just a point of reference re: Williams...

Damon Stoudamire, who had a very strong collegiate career and went on to more success in the NBA, has been an assistant at Memphis. He's expected to be named the HC of Pacific today. That's a pretty normal and typical path for a former star player trying to get into coaching. Not going from ESPN to a P5 HC.
Like that or Travis Ford who I don't think was an assistant anywhere but took a low level HC job and worked his way up into the mid majors and eventually Oklahoma State. Except for the 3 I mentioned above for college, all at their alma maters, I can't think of any others who took high level HC jobs as their first exposure to coaching.
 
Current recruits were probably two or three years old when Jay Williams was playing basketball. Tragically, he didn't have a chance to have a real NBA career. I'm not sure the fact he is a TV analyst will carry much weight in recruiting.
 
I would imagine the interview includes questions like: how would you run practices? Go into some level of detail. If it is clearly laid out and shows a detailed thought process for coaching them up, check that box. How would you recruit? What do you think we need to upgrade? How do you do film study for upcoming opponents? Who would your assistant coaches be,and how do I know yiu will hire them? Etc. If Williams knocks it out of the park in all areas and shows he has a plan for coaching, then he can remain an option. If there is a lot of hemming and hawking on anything, move on.
 
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where did he go to school...and Mullin actually had a NBA career and alot of people thought it was a bad hire for now...but he did go to school there..not Duke. Mullin had been around the program for years and was a loyal son. Williams has nothing to do with Rutgers except a recent mentoring to Corey Sanders probably to try and get this job
 
I suspect that as much as Jay Will would absolutely love to get the head job at RU, even he doesn't think he will get hired. BUT a good interview does potentially position him for a chance at an assistant role on the new staff, which I contend is his current endgame.
 
Jay Williams is my favorite college basketball player ever and as a young dude, even though I don't think it's the right hire to make, I will accept it once it happens and he will be an idolized HC by Rutgers fans 25-35.

One thing this hire will accomplish is it will certainly help fundraise at least in year 1/2 which many posters believe is an important factor for the next coach.


not if pisses off a large portion of your fanbase and they dont give
 
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I am leary of the notion that a guy who was a very good player in any sport would naturally be a good coach. If anything the worst person to lead and develop a team is a guy with preternatural talent.

How would Michael Jordan explain to somebody how to play hoops, beyond "Do what I did."
Could Manny Ramirez teach somebody how to be a good hitter beyond saying "Just don't worry about the last at bat and swing"?
Could Michael Vick teach anybody how to be evasive and make plays with their feet?

Give me the gym rat that had to squeeze every ounce of talent they had and was always thinking about how to find an edge. Some experience actually coaching helps.


well Williams was treated like a king at Duke and then was handed at TV analyst job at ESPN without having to pay dues...so I guess the next step is to con an AD into handing him a head coaching job too
 
PJ Carlesimo?

"The Scranton native is hoping his coaching days aren’t over but in the meantime, he’s comfortable as a talking head - as long as he’s talking about basketball."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...eads_to_Pennsylvania_Sports_Hall_of_Fame.html
Does he even want to coach in college anymore? Coaching days not being over could just mean going back to an assistant job in the NBA again as opposed to retired. I don't know that it necessarily means college HC. Like I said the HCIW scenario sounds nice in theory but it's got more moving parts to it to make it reality. So as unrealistic as Williams being the HC seems it's probably more "realistic" than a HCIW scenario with Williams because in practice it's likely harder to pull off.
 
so he couldnt coach fundamentals...a NBA coach but yet we expect a guy who zero coaching ability to be hunky dory and do everything..kiss babies, recruit, win, fundraise, manage egos..oh dont worry about the xs and os because it doesnt matter really. I mean its all about style and flash over substance

You realize that's exactly what Hurley is right? Only his flash is dim too.
 
Williams is worth the risk. We aren't going to be able to promise facilities upgrades which is why none of the coaches being mentioned have a chance. Williams may though just do to reputation. It is risky but I would much rather him then the other candidates being mentioned. If it doesn't work out after three years then we let him go and we should have more money at that time and a date on facilities.
 
Jay Williams = Donald Trump

Could either be an upgrade, but could also be a flaming dumpster fire. Success in one job, maybe could transfer over.

(Not starting a political convo, just thought it was a good analogy. Don't want either FWIW)
 
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