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Per TH: Ahmir Mitchell Leaning Towards RU

He started 7 games in the past, is currently the 3rd option at safety, and will almost certainly start for the next two years after Cioffi graduates. That's an impact player.

I lean toward that he is currently a "contributing" player but has not reached the level of "impact" as of yet. But I feel he has a very good chance to be an impact player over the next year or two.
 
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I lean toward that he is currently a "contributing" player but has not reached the level of "impact" as of yet. But I feel he has a very good chance to be an impact player over the next year or two.
Fair enough. "Impact player" is such a subjective term anyway which makes this argument silly.
 
As was alluded to earlier in the thread, whatever it was that got him booted from Michigan, (and it seems that nobody definitively knows what it was at this point), will hopefully be a wake-up call to this young guy that he's not in high school anymore and has got to toe the line.

Ash & Co. have shown a "do things the right way because we'll accept nothing else" kind of attitude, and if, (again, I say if), after properly and thoroughly vetting Mitchell the RU staff feel he's deserving of the privilege of becoming a Scarlet Knight, then we definitely take him.

And I have a feeling that should AM be allowed to become part of the team, his motivation whenever we play Mich. will be, to say the least...intense.
 
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I'm sure if you go back a few more decades you'll find another outlier...my point remains. The hit rate on taking these guys and then panning out is abysmal.
It doesn't mean you do not try if a ship is available. There is nothing to lose here.This kid is obviously no Lolota either. He has done it on the field. Lolota was strickly a camp/combine warrior.
 
Again, at this point in the regime, considering the current make up of th roster - talent over everything.
 
He started 7 games in the past, is currently the 3rd option at safety, and will almost certainly start for the next two years after Cioffi graduates. That's an impact player.
I'll be stoked if he starts the next 2 years. I'll call him an impact player at that point, or even after next year if he starts.

But I don't put much weight on last year. There weren't many options, and the D performed rather poorly.
 
I'll be stoked if he starts the next 2 years. I'll call him an impact player at that point, or even after next year if he starts.

But I don't put much weight on last year. There weren't many options, and the D performed rather poorly.
He's currently backing up Cioffi at SS with Hampton locking down FS. Both Hampton and Hester are RS sophs, so my best guess would be those two being the starters until their eligibility runs out. Ronnie James might have something to say about that, but other than him I don't see anyone coming close to jumping those two.
 
It doesn't mean you do not try if a ship is available. There is nothing to lose here.This kid is obviously no Lolota either. He has done it on the field. Lolota was strickly a camp/combine warrior.
There is always something to lose.

And what has he done on the field? I thought this guy was a true freshman.
 
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There is always something to lose.

And what has he done on the field? I thought this guy was a true freshman.
He showed that he was a man among boys on the field in HS. He was not just a camp crcut warrior, but you already knew what I meant
 
I think Harbaugh would be best served by making it easy for him to transfer and play right away. Whichever way he goes his rep here in jersey will be affected. I think he should choose the way where people can say he thought about the best interests of the jersey kid who left his program.
 
I am still a bit confused on one thing. If Mitchell can stay at Michgan but has to pay his own way, doesnt that actually mean he was dismissed and his scholarship revoked?
 
I am still a bit confused on one thing. If Mitchell can stay at Michgan but has to pay his own way, doesnt that actually mean he was dismissed and his scholarship revoked?

I was confused by the same thing and I'm guessing that may be why there's a chance for a hardship waiver. Also, is harbaugh even allowed to do that? I thought the big ten guarantees 4 year scholarships.
 
I was confused by the same thing and I'm guessing that may be why there's a chance for a hardship waiver. Also, is harbaugh even allowed to do that? I thought the big ten guarantees 4 year scholarships.
I'm on the same page as you all are.

What does a semester at Michigan cost? Could an argument against the hardship waiver be "school loans", as in forcing a kid to take on thousands of $$$'s in dept?

I think Mitchell has a case.
 
Hairball is gonna be pist.

Edit:Story says he is filing an appeal and also fighting for a hardship waiver, which would get him on the field this season, but is unlikely. Typically in conference transfers need to sit 2 years. So would the regular appeal get him on the field next season?

It unlikely because like most media they are clueless. Starting in 2015 the hardship wavier was eliminated. Instead an athlete may apply for another year of eligibility once they exhausted all eligibility and sat out for a year. He may apply for a hardship waiver from the B1G rule which would just all him to have an additional year to play but not play immediately. The only thing that would change with the B1G waiver is he could play for 4 years instead of 3 years.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...-hardship-waiver-for-transfers-191437627.html
 
It unlikely because like most media they are clueless. Starting in 2015 the hardship wavier was eliminated. Instead an athlete may apply for another year of eligibility once they exhausted all eligibility and sat out for a year. He may apply for a hardship waiver from the B1G rule which would just all him to have an additional year to play but not play immediately. The only thing that would change with the B1G waiver is he could play for 4 years instead of 3 years

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...-hardship-waiver-for-transfers-191437627.html
Thanks for clarifying.

Playing 4 years instead of 3 is pretty significant.

Playing this year was a whatever anyways. Pretty late in the process, and this season we do have depth at the position.

So basically he'd be coming to RU and red shirting.
 
I'm on the same page as you all are.

What does a semester at Michigan cost? Could an argument against the hardship waiver be "school loans", as in forcing a kid to take on thousands of $$$'s in dept?

I think Mitchell has a case.
That is not considered a hardship. Most often it due to a sick relative or other family emergency reason. Getting kicked off the team for violation of team rules is not a hard ship. They of course are going to try but it is very doubtful they will be successful.
 
That is not considered a hardship. Most often it due to a sick relative or other family emergency reason. Getting kicked off the team for violation of team rules is not a hard ship. They of course are going to try but it is very doubtful they will be successful.
There is "something" there that might allow this kid to gain a hardship waiver. It's been alluded to on several postings on other threads.

We will just have to let it play out. The Add/Drop date for adding this kid for this semester is rapidly approaching. Might be next Tues.
 
I'm sure if you go back a few more decades you'll find another outlier...my point remains. The hit rate on taking these guys and then panning out is abysmal.

SO in other words, you are admitting that what you wrote about there being no transfer students who have made an impact was false. Got it.
 
All players should get four years meaning that as soon as they sign, the clock starts and expires after four years. They are entering an academic institution not a semi pro league.

Why can't they make this eligibility simple?
The reason is that CFB is the most corrupt entity in this country and everyone is in it so no one objects.
 
All players should get four years meaning that as soon as they sign, the clock starts and expires after four years. They are entering an academic institution not a semi pro league.

Why can't they make this eligibility simple?
The reason is that CFB is the most corrupt entity in this country and everyone is in it so no one objects.
But what happens if you don't graduate in 4 yrs.? Get thrown to the curb?(SEC would specialize in this) You do know football and sports participation is very demanding on student/athletes time, right. Most athletes take the minimum credits during their season, do to time constraints. I know I sure as hell did and the reason it took me 5yrs. to graduate. Your way would punish students/athletes who are representatives of their school.
 
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Never understand why people with none of the information and no professional experience feel a need to weigh in on situations where the professionals with all the information will ultimately decide.

Let it play out. Whatever is decided will be for good reasons and that's all we need to know.

Hope it works out for Mitchell. Freshman year is the time to go a little nutty. I remember trying to explain to my parents how I ended up with only six credits after seeking 15. Glad Harbaugh wasn't involved in that.
 
Never understand why people with none of the information and no professional experience feel a need to weigh in on situations where the professionals with all the information will ultimately decide.

Let it play out. Whatever is decided will be for good reasons and that's all we need to know.

Hope it works out for Mitchell. Freshman year is the time to go a little nutty. I remember trying to explain to my parents how I ended up with only six credits after seeking 15. Glad Harbaugh wasn't involved in that.
And I'll never understand how people can't grasp the notion of message boards. Or fandom for that matter.
 
That is not considered a hardship. Most often it due to a sick relative or other family emergency reason. Getting kicked off the team for violation of team rules is not a hard ship. They of course are going to try but it is very doubtful they will be successful.
So even if a guy is kicked off the team he is still transferring. That's the part I wasn't grasping.

Aight, I'm back to not liking Mitchell's case.
 
I'm on the same page as you all are.

What does a semester at Michigan cost? Could an argument against the hardship waiver be "school loans", as in forcing a kid to take on thousands of $$$'s in dept?

I think Mitchell has a case.

No way does he have a case. The result of Mitchell looking for another school is due to his repeated behavioral issues. He blew it and that's all on him. He's a talented kid, and I don't think Harbaugh would stand in his way of transferring to Rutgers, but Mitchell needs to grow up bigtime. Some kids just don't handle the transition well. From what I hear about Ash, he's a pretty strict guy too that won't put up with the things Mitchell has been doing. I wish the best for him. Good luck this week!
 
Wrong. Hester is an impact player. Started 7 games last year, will play this year and most likely start the next two years.

Wrong, as much as I like the guy let's wait and see if he pans out.
He could not make the 2 deep on a weak Miami secondary .
 
He was there only there for a few weeks.

Understood , and there were reports in Summer camp that he was not going to see the field.
Let's hope he can reverse the trend of poor results of higher star ranked players transferring into RU.
 
I'm on the same page as you all are.

What does a semester at Michigan cost? Could an argument against the hardship waiver be "school loans", as in forcing a kid to take on thousands of $$$'s in dept?

I think Mitchell has a case.

Money isn't an issue I don't think. This kid had money to blow on the plane banner when he announced to UM.
 
Money isn't an issue I don't think. This kid had money to blow on the plane banner when he announced to UM.
I doubt that he or his family paid a penny for that banner.
Regardless, aerial banners don't cost that much especially in comparison to a semester of college costs.
 
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