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Poll; is the Game 1 2016 starting QB currently on roster?

Is RU's 2016 Game 1 starting QB on the roster today?

  • Yes; either Gio, Dare, Rettig or Laviano will be the starter

    Votes: 137 75.7%
  • No; a new recruit or transfer will be the starting QB

    Votes: 44 24.3%

  • Total voters
    181
I'm gonna get reamed, with no lube, for saying this, but I think the most likely starting QB for 2016 is Laviano.

Alrighty then. Give it to me, you filthy animals.
 
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Ash is going to get an earful from Greg about the benefits of the Wild Knight and the Jabu package. Josh Hicks and/or Janarion Grant in the shotgun. Janarion Grant's QB rating is 472. Mark it down.
 
Given that Ash has said that he will alter his schemes to suit his roster, I can only hope that Rettig gets a good shot with the senior WRs next year. Also look for RU to sign a 3 star dual threat QB in the next 6 weeks.
 
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A 5th year transfer is certainly possible. But, someone that can zip the ball anywhere on the field from shotgun already is on the roster. Rettig is most likely starter and I wouldn't at all be surprised if Russo does NOT redshirt this year.
 
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Why isn't there a third option?

The player is on the team but not one of the listed players. The offensive coordinator converts a talented skill position player into a QB after careful assessment.

A lot of great offensive coordinators have done this.

Remember when cornerback Nick Marshall went to Auburn and then played QB leading them to the title game?

Remember when some saw Pat White as a WR while someone saw him as a QB?
 
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Gio and Russo have a shot if Ash goes hard spread early. If Rettig can go no huddle he has the strong arm and quick release. Laviano if Gio. Dare, and Rettig need a better OL. I expect a fair competition past opening day.
 
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Gio and Russo have a shot if Ash goes hard spread early. If Rettig can go no huddle he has the strong arm and quick release. Laviano if Gio. Dare, and Rettig need a better OL. I expect a fair competition past opening day.

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Why isn't there a third option?

The player is on the team but not one of the listed players. The offensive coordinator converts a talented skill position player into a QB after careful assessment.

A lot of great offensive coordinators have done this.

Remember when cornerback Nick Marshall went to Auburn and then played QB leading them to the title game?

Remember when some saw Pat White as a WR while someone saw him as a QB?

Remember when Tanner McEvoy was moved from Safety to QB and was so F***ing awful that they moved him back to Safety.
 
Starting a junior in a new system is not the best strategy. Ash and staff will be judged on year 3-4. With Laviano / Rettig they have to break in new qb year 3. I expect a younger guy (Dare / Russo) or graduate transfer (1 and done) to start next year.

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Why isn't there a third option?

The player is on the team but not one of the listed players. The offensive coordinator converts a talented skill position player into a QB after careful assessment.

A lot of great offensive coordinators have done this.

Remember when cornerback Nick Marshall went to Auburn and then played QB leading them to the title game?

Remember when some saw Pat White as a WR while someone saw him as a QB?
Kid at TCU was a WR two years ago. Who are the converted QB's on our roster?
 
I'm gonna get reamed, with no lube, for saying this, but I think the most likely starting QB for 2016 is Laviano.

Alrighty then. Give it to me, you filthy animals.


This from a guy who said this about Flood in late November:
I still think it's about 60/40 he is retained one final year.
 
Starting a junior in a new system is not the best strategy. Ash and staff will be judged on year 3-4. With Laviano / Rettig they have to break in new qb year 3. I expect a younger guy (Dare / Russo) or graduate transfer (1 and done) to start next year.

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So they won't start a junior who could play for two years, but they would start a 5th year transfer? Sorry, that does not make sense.

Who ever he thinks will help the team win in 2016 will play. Having the team be as successful as it can be, helps recruiting, which will help the team in year 3 and 4.
 
So they won't start a junior who could play for two years, but they would start a 5th year transfer? Sorry, that does not make sense.

Who ever he thinks will help the team win in 2016 will play. Having the team be as successful as it can be, helps recruiting, which will help the team in year 3 and 4.
Actually it might make sense if the 5th year transfer already has plenty of experience running the type of system we are implementing. I think his point was using a Junior QB with no experience in the spread seems unlikely because his eligibility might be up before he gets it. A transfer who already gets it would be fine.
 
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Man could you imagine if a 5th year transfer was added to the mix. Would be a legit 6 man comp.
 
Actually it might make sense if the 5th year transfer already has plenty of experience running the type of system we are implementing. I think his point was using a Junior QB with no experience in the spread seems unlikely because his eligibility might be up before he gets it. A transfer who already gets it would be fine.

So in that case the 5th player would help us win in 2016. I would be fine with it.

Isn't one of the big advantages of the spread offense is that it is QB friendly? Plug and play? It does not make sense to play Dare or Russo, which is what he suggested, if Laviano or Rettig are better. If you have strong QB recruiting, having a guy start for two seasons is not unusual.
 
Gio and Russo have a shot if Ash goes hard spread early. If Rettig can go no huddle he has the strong arm and quick release. Laviano if Gio. Dare, and Rettig need a better OL. I expect a fair competition past opening day.
The problem with Rettig is not his arm or quick release but it is his mind not being quick enough to know when or who to throw the ball.
In his limited time he was slow to release and got sacked when he should have thrown it away. It may be that Laviano had a season of experience over Rettig but unless he gets quicker mentally specially with the spread! Rettig improves that part of his game and know what to call when. He may start
But if there is no improvement Laviano will do a good job.
 
So in that case the 5th player would help us win in 2016. I would be fine with it.

Isn't one of the big advantages of the spread offense is that it is QB friendly? Plug and play? It does not make sense to play Dare or Russo, which is what he suggested, if Laviano or Rettig are better. If you have strong QB recruiting, having a guy start for two seasons is not unusual.

Yes - starting Dare / Russo have 4 years to develop and the staff has 2 years of forgiveness if things do not go well.

Starting Rettig/Laviano have them starting a fresh quarterback year 3 when people will want to see progress.

A 5th year allows them to get their system going now and finding a QB to develop year 2 on the field (maybe get some practice as a backup if on roster already).
 
The problem with Rettig is not his arm or quick release but it is his mind not being quick enough to know when or who to throw the ball.
In his limited time he was slow to release and got sacked when he should have thrown it away. It may be that Laviano had a season of experience over Rettig but unless he gets quicker mentally specially with the spread! Rettig improves that part of his game and know what to call when. He may start
But if there is no improvement Laviano will do a good job.

I did not see indecision as a big problem for HR but I maybe I am getting senile. How many times was he sacked?
 
I don't see Ash bringing in a transfer to set back his future QB's. Sure, it might be a quick fix, but it will not be helping the foundation.

BTW, I answered assuming a current QB will start on Game 1, but I wouldn't be surprised if Russo is given the reins later on in the season. I truly hope Ash & Mehringer are willing to rotate QB's until they find the best in-game option, not just one who seems to perform best during practices.
 
I did not see indecision as a big problem for HR but I maybe I am getting senile. How many times was he sacked?
It is not actual sacks but holding too long and have to throw with some one in his face, never produces good results. I may have been sated by Laviano's tempo and execution. by the was one of Laviano's biggest asset which many over look is how well he sees the field. shown by the fact that he has 6-10 players getting the ball.
there are no hard stats other then the time in my head when I start yelling "throw the ball"
I do it too much with Rettig but that MAY change with experience
 
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It is not actual sacks but holding too long and have to throw with some one in his face, never produces good results. I may have been sated by Laviano's tempo and execution. by the was one of Laviano's biggest asset which many over look is how well he sees the field. shown by the fact that he has 6-10 players getting the ball.
there are no hard stats other then the time in my head when I start yelling "throw the ball"
I do it too much with Rettig but that MAY change with experience
Are we watching the same team?
 
Remember the poll question is who starts Game 1: I think Laviano. I also don't think he'll start the remainder of the season, but you can't discount a whole season of taking snaps. Plus, it's going to be playing away, across the entire continent, at what'll probably be 11:00PM ET start in front of 70, 000 Husky fans. You need some of that experience.
 
Laviano's biggest asset which many over look is how well he sees the field. shown by the fact that he has 6-10 players getting the ball.

Over a third of his yards and a fifth of his completions went to one guy who missed significant time this year and 9 of the 14 guys who caught passes had an average of less than 10 YPC - meaning there was a high number of screens and check downs. This could very well be that Carroo is just that good, but I think the jury is still out on how well Laviano sees the field and spreads the ball.
 
go look at stats and you will find he spreads the ball around with Carroo less then without but he had 9 and 10 people catch the ball. And why not throw to Carroo he is open all the time without him we have more sack because no one else is getting open
again remove your prejudices eyes
 
go look at stats and you will find he spreads the ball around with Carroo less then without but he had 9 and 10 people catch the ball. And why not throw to Carroo he is open all the time without him we have more sack because no one else is getting open
again remove your prejudices eyes

Except the stats don't really say that - again over a third of his yards and a fifth of his completions went to one guy who missed significant time this year and 9 of the 14 guys who caught passes had an average of less than 10 YPC. Our offense consisted of screen passes and look to carroo and either throw to him or check down. Again this might be because Carroo was that good or our offensive philosophy but imo there is not enough evidence to say he has good or even average vision or ability to spread the ball.
 
I don't think it will be Laviano. Sure he has the feet but his decision making is slow, his accuracy is not there, his passes have no zip and he refuses to throw in tight windows. Not sure what game the poster was watching that said Laviano makes quick decisions.This offense suits Rettig better with being in shotgun which he did exclusively in high school. He is somewhat mobile and more accurate with more zip on his ball in the limited action I saw. This offense will be tailored to fit our personnel currently on the roster until they can recruit their guys to run the option aspect. I don't think this coaching staff is stupid and will try to fit a square peg through a round hole like our last staff tried. Also judging Rettig's performances in the end of blow outs is difficult. The defense had their ears pinned back and a lot of times Flood sent in the 2nd team OL to protect him.
 
go look at stats and you will find he spreads the ball around with Carroo less then without but he had 9 and 10 people catch the ball. And why not throw to Carroo he is open all the time without him we have more sack because no one else is getting open
again remove your prejudices eyes

I think there is a slight chance that you are projecting prejudice on others.

Impossible to compare anyone to Lav in receivers due to attempts Lav had.
Of course, throw to Carroo.
You retracted the sacks comment.
I think HR has a quicker release and stronger arm based on limited views.
Lav is more mobile and gets play off faster but has hand off issues.

This is neither pro or con either guy.
 
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