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It's called a head start.....not everyone has a parent or grandparent to show you the way. Your grandfather obviously was accomplished in the real estate field, a simple google search shows he not only ran the school but wrote a book regarding it. Are you saying he had no part in your future successes?
My grandfather was a real estate teacher who taught a pre-license class and knew real estate law backwards and forwards. He could tell you laws that were written in the 1930's. Unfortunately none of that knowledge would help you sell homes. He knew nothing about selling homes as he never sold a single parcel of real estate in his life. He wasn't a broker or agent. His knowledge does not help you sell real estate, it DOES help you pass the state exam (which doesn't take a rocket scientist to pass a 75 hour class).

Just not sure you really know what you're talking about here. Not a shot at you, just a matter of fact.
 
All that activity/ income and yet no donations to RU athletics and also welshed on the lost wager on this board as well as tried to dox another poster to get out of it. Would think that would all be like pennies to you compared to all the "not so fortunate" little people.
Nope $0. Have never donated a dime.
 
In NJ a husband and wife who are both teachers have a household income of $200K+. I often feel like im talking to fast food workers here
The median salary for a teacher in NJ is 62k

The average starting salary is 47k
 
The median salary for a teacher in NJ is 62k

The average starting salary is 47k
The average age of a male when they have their first kid is 33 in the most recent data I've seen. Implying they would've been a teacher for 11ish years.

I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. I work with teachers and have literally seen their financials. So again, not asking, not speculating, rather telling you.
 
The average age of a male when they have their first kid is 33 in the most recent data I've seen. Implying they would've been a teacher for 11ish years.

I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. I work with teachers and have literally seen their financials. So again, not asking, not speculating, rather telling you.
What does that have to do with the fact that half of all teachers currently employed in the state of NJ make 62K or less from their primary source of income. Teachers are not “off” the rest of the time. They have to grade papers, prepare lesson plans, mark tests, etc. Yes - they can pick up odd jobs on the side but your assuming these kids abroad don’t make any money doing anything on the side either or in off season. How do you know that?
 
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The average age of a male when they have their first kid is 33 in the most recent data I've seen. Implying they would've been a teacher for 11ish years.

I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. I work with teachers and have literally seen their financials. So again, not asking, not speculating, rather telling you.
Not sure why you're mentioning a male having a kid at 33?

Both my parents are teachers. My twin sister is a teacher. My cousin/best friend is a teacher along with his wife and their whole group of friends that I hang out with. Multiple of my childhood best friends who I still talk to daily are teachers

Every time you try to talk about anything in regards to money, you show how extremely out of touch you are with the average person. You are successful in business and likely then associate with others who are at a similar economic status. Most Americans don't live in that bubble though
 
I like to imagine a world where Quinerly sees this thread with 150+ posts and thinks wow can't wait to see the lively discussion from fans about what I can bring to this Rutgers basketball team. You could give him a million guesses and I don't think he gets to where this ended up lol
Million guesses is more than Kyk’s 0 annual donation to RU based on his meager $400K+ annual income. Giving back to his alma mater obviously not a priority.
 
I’ll try again just because not everybody knows:
#1 Kyk has become a major troll on this board.
#2 He is a SHU guy first.
Feel free to engage and respond to him but understand you’re giving him something to laugh about with his friends.
 
Not sure why you're mentioning a male having a kid at 33?

Both my parents are teachers. My twin sister is a teacher. My cousin/best friend is a teacher along with his wife and their whole group of friends that I hang out with. Multiple of my childhood best friends who I still talk to daily are teachers

Every time you try to talk about anything in regards to money, you show how extremely out of touch you are with the average person. You are successful in business and likely then associate with others who are at a similar economic status. Most Americans don't live in that bubble though
Again, I have friends who are teachers. I sell them houses. I LITERALLY have seen their tax returns. It's literally my job haha.

my most recent teacher client was mid 30's and made over $130K/yr. She also coaches and does some training of athletes as well (very part time). Training athletes in suburban towns even part time can make good money. Her teacher salary alone is about $93K. Again I am not asking you, I am telling you.

Oh and even more pertinent to this topic. She's a former d1 athlete who went straight to work after college. Fast forward 12-13 years and shes living nice making around $130K by herself. Paired with her spouse's income they are doing quite well.
 
Again, I have friends who are teachers. I sell them houses. I LITERALLY have seen their tax returns. It's literally my job haha.

my most recent teacher client was mid 30's and made over $130K/yr. She also coaches and does some training of athletes as well (very part time). Training athletes in suburban towns even part time can make good money. Her teacher salary alone is about $93K. Again I am not asking you, I am telling you.

Oh and even more pertinent to this topic. She's a former d1 athlete who went straight to work after college. Fast forward 12-13 years and shes living nice making around $130K by herself. Paired with her spouse's income they are doing quite well.
Your one friend doesn't really matter when people are quoting means and medians. For someone who works with numbers all day, you're really struggling with 6th grade math here.
I teach and don't make 100k. I'm not asking. I'm telling you. See how one example isn't enough to move the median?
 
Again, I have friends who are teachers. I sell them houses. I LITERALLY have seen their tax returns. It's literally my job haha.

my most recent teacher client was mid 30's and made over $130K/yr. She also coaches and does some training of athletes as well (very part time). Training athletes in suburban towns even part time can make good money. Her teacher salary alone is about $93K. Again I am not asking you, I am telling you.

Oh and even more pertinent to this topic. She's a former d1 athlete who went straight to work after college. Fast forward 12-13 years and shes living nice making around $130K by herself. Paired with her spouse's income they are doing quite well.
Lol so your friend being an outlier is the expected median bc you have seen a few tax returns? Not the actual real median? That's simply not how it works. You don't get to make up what you think the average teacher makes and disregard what the actual real data is. Sorry if that inconveniences your narrative

Yes, if people work a second and third job they make more money. Even in your own example the teacher still didn't make 100k teaching after a decade

Quinerly would make significantly more than that this year bringing it back to the original topic
 
Is this a joke? The average principal salary in NJ is in the 120-130k range.
Yes it was intended as a joke. Depending on source some agree with your # of 120-130, another says $140, range in NJ is $75-$205 K.
Point was it’s ridiculous to say all a teacher needs to do is coach to supplement salary when there are a lot more teachers than coaching positions. Even worse ratio between teachers and admin positions
 
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Lol so your friend being an outlier is the expected median bc you have seen a few tax returns? Not the actual real median? That's simply not how it works. You don't get to make up what you think the average teacher makes and disregard what the actual real data is. Sorry if that inconveniences your narrative

Yes, if people work a second and third job they make more money. Even in your own example the teacher still didn't make 100k teaching after a decade

Quinerly would make significantly more than that this year bringing it back to the original topic
Nah dawg. Its allllllllll public record. I can look up any teacher in NJ’s salary. Odds are if youre a married couple here in north jersey (i dont know south) that youre household income is over $200K once you hit mid 30’s.

It is quite literally public info.

Heres my high school for example. And yes it says median salary is about $75K because there are also non-tenured and part time teachers/aids lumped into that number. But pretty much every full-time teacher as you will see (because its you know, public record) mid 30’s or above is making $90K+ salary. And then all theyd have to do is work detention/after school activities for 2-3 days a week until 3:45 or 5:15 (depends what activities theyd like to do) or coach 1 season and earn stipend and theyre at $100K.

Again, not asking you, I’m telling you. All you gotta do is click on their names to see their public (teaching only) salary (does not include coaching stipend or after school activities pay) https://govsalaries.com/salaries/NJ/west-essex-regional-school-district?page=1

My buddy is going into his 6th year there as a gym teacher. Teacher salary slightly above $80K, assistant coach for 3 sports and he brings in over $100K/yr. Lives 10 mins from school in our hometown and home by 5:30 every day.

And anyway I think the teachers are still underpaid. But man, you go full dummy way too often here and refuse to admit your wrong even when I present facts to you. Undeniable public facts
 
Yes so after a decade if you work extra jobs you can surpass 100k. Just like any other person in any career can work extra to supplement their income

All you did was admit teachers don't actually get 100k even a DECADE later which proves your own point wrong about players making 6 figures by the time they are 25 if they didn't play bball and got a normal job instead

Teachers are making nowhere near that out of school

Quinerly will make wayyyy more than the average American his age with NIL
 
Yes so after a decade if you work extra jobs you can surpass 100k. Just like any other person in any career can work extra to supplement their income

All you did was admit teachers don't actually get 100k even a DECADE later which proves your own point wrong about players making 6 figures by the time they are 25 if they didn't play bball and got a normal job instead

Teachers are making nowhere near that out of school

Quinerly will make wayyyy more than the average American his age with NIL
Yes but when he comes back to the US in his 30’s he aint making what a teacher will be. He’ll have no employable skills.

Id take the $250K now too. But after that I’d go right to work and skip the euro charade unless I was playing in a legitimate league and making legitimate money
 
Yes so after a decade if you work extra jobs you can surpass 100k. Just like any other person in any career can work extra to supplement their income

All you did was admit teachers don't actually get 100k even a DECADE later which proves your own point wrong about players making 6 figures by the time they are 25 if they didn't play bball and got a normal job instead

Teachers are making nowhere near that out of school

Quinerly will make wayyyy more than the average American his age with NIL
This dude is really arguing with me, a teacher who is married to a teacher, that he knows what 2 married teachers make. He is literally using my exact life situation as his example and telling me I'm wrong. Time to let this die.
 
Nah dawg. Its allllllllll public record. I can look up any teacher in NJ’s salary. Odds are if youre a married couple here in north jersey (i dont know south) that youre household income is over $200K once you hit mid 30’s.

It is quite literally public info.

Heres my high school for example. And yes it says median salary is about $75K because there are also non-tenured and part time teachers/aids lumped into that number. But pretty much every full-time teacher as you will see (because its you know, public record) mid 30’s or above is making $90K+ salary. And then all theyd have to do is work detention/after school activities for 2-3 days a week until 3:45 or 5:15 (depends what activities theyd like to do) or coach 1 season and earn stipend and theyre at $100K.

Again, not asking you, I’m telling you. All you gotta do is click on their names to see their public (teaching only) salary (does not include coaching stipend or after school activities pay) https://govsalaries.com/salaries/NJ/west-essex-regional-school-district?page=1

My buddy is going into his 6th year there as a gym teacher. Teacher salary slightly above $80K, assistant coach for 3 sports and he brings in over $100K/yr. Lives 10 mins from school in our hometown and home by 5:30 every day.

And anyway I think the teachers are still underpaid. But man, you go full dummy way too oft
Nah dawg. Its allllllllll public record. I can look up any teacher in NJ’s salary. Odds are if youre a married couple here in north jersey (i dont know south) that youre household income is over $200K once you hit mid 30’s.

It is quite literally public info.

Heres my high school for example. And yes it says median salary is about $75K because there are also non-tenured and part time teachers/aids lumped into that number. But pretty much every full-time teacher as you will see (because its you know, public record) mid 30’s or above is making $90K+ salary. And then all theyd have to do is work detention/after school activities for 2-3 days a week until 3:45 or 5:15 (depends what activities theyd like to do) or coach 1 season and earn stipend and theyre at $100K.

Again, not asking you, I’m telling you. All you gotta do is click on their names to see their public (teaching only) salary (does not include coaching stipend or after school activities pay) https://govsalaries.com/salaries/NJ/west-essex-regional-school-district?page=1

My buddy is going into his 6th year there as a gym teacher. Teacher salary slightly above $80K, assistant coach for 3 sports and he brings in over $100K/yr. Lives 10 mins from school in our hometown and home by 5:30 every day.

And anyway I think the teachers are still underpaid. But man, you go full dummy way too often here and refuse to admit your wrong even when I present facts to you. Undeniable public facts
You can certainly find any public employee salary easily. Data Universe can allow you to search any location or category. Slightly dated 2021 stats. However you are again cherry-picking one affluent district.
In my town (Dunellen) the only people making $100K are principals and vps.
Highest paid teacher is$85 and only 2 others are in $80s. Lots in $70, including my grandsons 1st grade teacher who is reti ring after a long career (my44 year old son also had her as a teacher)
 
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You can certainly find any public employee salary easily. Data Universe can allow you to search any location or category. Slightly dated 2021 stats. However you are again cherry-picking one affluent district.
In my town (Dunellen) the only people making $100K are principals and vps.
Highest paid teacher is$85 and only 2 others are in $80s. Lots in $70, including my grandsons 1st grade teacher who is reti ring after a long career (my44 year old son also had her as a teacher)
Cost of living is also significantly less down that way. $80K in south jersey probably goes further than $100K in north jersey. It's all relative.
 
Yes but when he comes back to the US in his 30’s he aint making what a teacher will be. He’ll have no employable skills.

Id take the $250K now too. But after that I’d go right to work and skip the euro charade unless I was playing in a legitimate league and making legitimate money
That’s not true. He can be a basketball or agility trainer. Maybe eventually start an AAU program of his own. Or something related to that. You yourself posted that trainers do well even part time in affluent areas. The full time ones do just fine.

Give it a rest dude. Your wrong. And not everyone succeeds flipping properties in real estate by the way. Some guess wrong. End up blowing their life savings or getting sued.

Oh, and the data on teachers does not include aides or paras so I don’t know where you are getting that from. They are not licensed teachers. It does not include part time (subs) either. It includes tenured and untenured teachers - all of them. No matter how you look at it, half of them make 62k or less.
 
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That’s not true. He can be a basketball or agility trainer. Maybe eventually start an AAU program of his own. Or something related to that. You yourself posted that trainers do well even part time in affluent areas. The full time ones do just fine.

Give it a rest dude. Your wrong. And not everyone succeeds flipping properties in real estate by the way. Some guess wrong. End up blowing their life savings or getting sued.

Oh, and the data on teachers does not include aides or paras so I don’t know where you are getting that from. They are not licensed teachers. It does not include part time (subs) either. It includes tenured and untenured teachers - all of them. No matter how you look at it, half of them make 62k or less.
All the ones mid 30’s and on, husband and wife have a household income of $200K plus as long as each spouse simply either A) coaches one sport (assistant) or does 2-3 days a week of after school activities. Facts.
 
All the ones mid 30’s and on, husband and wife have a household income of $200K plus as long as each spouse simply either A) coaches one sport (assistant) or does 2-3 days a week of after school activities. Facts.
All? Absolutely not true.
 
All the ones mid 30’s and on, husband and wife have a household income of $200K plus as long as each spouse simply either A) coaches one sport (assistant) or does 2-3 days a week of after school activities. Facts.

Are you listening to what I’m saying? In Bergen county these AAU trainers get $100-$120 an hour. If your willing to coach the little ones it’s not hard to build up a book of business either even if you weren’t a super star player. An average of 20 lesson a week (20 hours of work) nets 104k and rest assured all of it isn’t getting declared for tax purposes. And oh yeah - many of these kids work for AAU programs part time during off season when they come home to the states while playing abroad. So they are earning money and starting to build a network before they stop playing.

Your 200k involves two people’s combined earnings as teachers plus add on jobs. Explain to my why this is clearly a better path at 10 years post college than to go play ball in a new country and become a sports trainer back home when your done? I’m still missing the reasoning.
 
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Are you listening to what I’m saying? In Bergen county these AAU trainers get $100-$120 an hour. If your willing to coach the little ones it’s not hard to build up a book of business either even if you weren’t a super star player. An average of 20 lesson a week (20 hours of work) nets 104k and rest assured all of it isn’t getting declared for tax purposes. And oh yeah - many of these kids work for AAU programs part time during off season when they come home to the states while playing abroad. So they are earning money and starting to build a network before they stop playing.

Your 200k involves two people’s combined earnings as teachers plus add on jobs. Explain to my why this is clearly a better path at 10 years post college than to go play ball in a new country and become a sports trainer back home when your done? I’m still missing the reasoning.
Give me examples of the %’s of kids who go play euro ball, start a training company and make more than $100K/yr once they come back state side. Im not gonna hold my breath waiting for examples.

A good chunk of the aau kids dont exactly come from money they aint paying good money for training. The real money is made in training girls soccer players and boys/girls lax players. Aka target the affluent sports.
 
Give me examples of the %’s of kids who go play euro ball, start a training company and make more than $100K/yr once they come back state side. Im not gonna hold my breath waiting for examples.

A good chunk of the aau kids dont exactly come from money they aint paying good money for training. The real money is made in training girls soccer players and boys/girls lax players. Aka target the affluent sports.

Your an idiot if you think I’m talking about the AAU circuit that’s discussed on Rivals / premium boards. There are levels and levels in basketball dude and those kids aren’t the only ones looking to get better. Most towns in NJ field an A travel basketball team - and if your lucky some also have a B team. That’s it. Last year, 40 kids in our town tried out for 10 spots (one team for grade 3 - 75% of kids got cut). And no - it’s not a big town at all. This year hopefully we’ll have 2 teams but there will be more competition as more kids take an interest as they get older. The market I’m talking about are the parents paying through the nose to do what they can to help their 8-14 year olds make the cut at town try outs in October. Get it, now?

As I posted previously, I know the trainers at my boys’ club do quite well because I observe how booked the guys are first hand. To give a local example though of someone you’ve heard of, there’s a club called Garden State Grind that we play against. It’s run by Nick Vier (Ramapo coach - Schiano’s alma mater…) He’s got Tyrell Biggs (Pitt player who went abroad to Europe for many years) working for him there right now as a coach / trainer. Biggs also runs clinics of his own now through Grind. He hasn’t been there long, but I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he’ll do just fine long term adjusting to his return from Europe.
 
Since Quinerly was never something likely to happen, I stayed away from the thread, until I see the insanity of someone telling other teachers what they make per year.

Having done mortgages for almost 20 years and having done mortgages for at least 100+ teachers from NJ, there has not been 1 school teacher that has ever had a salary over 95K......as in its never happened and a good majority are RU fans that come from this message board.

If a teacher is teaching AND coaching and doing other items, that's probably 0.01% of teachers capturing that amount of income. Coaching income is not involved with teaching during the normal 10 month school year.

In terms of perhaps some private schools, perhaps those teachers are earning more, but I have not seen teachers out of college in the last decade, starting anywhere near what experienced teachers earn. In almost all the cases, the teachers I've worked with are overly-dedicated to the job and are fully invested into the field.

On Quinerly, he was a salary cap casuality at Alabama after his ACL tear and found some cap space at Memphis. At about 25 years of age, this might be his last big payday, before he goes overseas in Europe for more "peanuts". He'll probably land a NBA Summer League invite next year, but at 26, he'll be competing against some 19 or 20 year old lottery picks. Maybe he gets a 2 way contract, but once his rookie contract is done (if he's lucky) he'll be almost 30 and likely headed towards sports retirement age.
 
You can feel the racism in everything in writes. Definitely a big shutup and dribble guy.
I agree. The only reason I checked in on this thread was because I couldn’t believe it was still going. I’ve said this before, but Kyk just likes to throw crap out there, wear the black hat, then just argue with the backlash by bragging about himself. Ignore him going forward. He’s generally full of sh$t, but entertaining sometimes.
 
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To get ahead in life? Haha. Not complicated. By the time I was 25 I was 3 years out of college and making over $400,000/yr after being 22 fresh out of college and barely touching $100K 3 years prior.

Whats even worse? These idiot kids who then go off to europe to play for peanuts, stay in europe dribbling a basketball until theyre in their 30’s, make so little money that they cant even save anything, come back to the US with ZERO employable skills and wind having to work low skill low paying jobs living paycheck to paycheck the rest of their lives. Same goes for the football guys chasing xfl and usfl. Stop, go build a legitimate careereal estate agent.
Yes but when he comes back to the US in his 30’s he aint making what a teacher will be. He’ll have no employable skills.

Id take the $250K now too. But after that I’d go right to work and skip the euro charade unless I was playing in a legitimate league and making legitimate money
Or, they could play in Europe and when they get back just take the real estate agent exam and make the big bucks like you! Like you said, doesn’t take a rocket scientist to pas the exam.

On a separate note, it’s getting borderline unbearable to scroll through any thread this guy posts in, looking for actual topical discussion or information.
 
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