Disagree. Pike wanted to get Harper rest. Acuff and Ogobole are nos. So just Martini was the other option.
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Harper can get rest when the lead is in double digits
Shocking that Pike would go to an all defensive lineup. Shocking I tell ya
I was there and am in row 2, so I have a pretty good view. There were some bad/missed calls both ways - they certainly were very aggressive and the 23-11 spread reflected that.
I’ll be curious to see if he can do that against B1G teams. He’s very smooth
We lost the SJ exhibition because Harper was tired.
Exactly.
I love Derkack, JMike and JWill. But NONE of them should be attempting 3's. Ever. Not even sure I want them attempting 2's.
Leave the scoring to Dylan, Ace, PJ and Zack (for 3's) and Sommerville (inside).
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Agree on the treys, but assume you realize that them not attempting twos would be foolish.
See Politi can say something positive about Rutgers.
Of course ... just exaggerating to emphasize my point (as I tend to do).
It wasn't so much the fouls that were called.
It was the botched out of bounds calls, the laughable jump ball, a shooting foul for someone who wasn't shooting. They had a pretty brutal night.
Just an fyi.. St. P's had committed 57 fouls in its first 2 games. So they were 5.5 under their average lol.
Man -- alot of those were REALLY important buckets in moments where we were reeling. LOVE IT!
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The 3pt shooting has been a big problem. We won't win many games shooting 3/16 from 3. But I don't think we will shoot that badly from 3 many games either.
If JWill, JMike, or Derkack could hit 3s at an acceptable rate they would all be All Big Ten. We wish we had studs top to bottom, but that's not our lot and these guys are great but incomplete players. It's up to Pike to hide the deficiencies and max the strengths.
JMike did a much better job of playing his role. Derkack also had fewer ill advised charges into a crowd. JWill shows his leadership by quietly making smart plays, playing his role, helping to win.
The deep bench and rotation will pay dividends in the second half of the season.
The officiating was bad. The large foul differential in our favor should have been larger. Most Refs have an aversion to calling more fouls once it's already lopsided despite what happens on the court. St. Pete's is smart to exploit that and it worked in their favor and helped them stay in the game.
Ogbole was better. Lathan is going to wear out so we need to find ways to get productive use out of Ogbole. Every good minute we wring out of him is a big win.
Acuff looks...lumbering? Not sure what i'm seeing here or what' supposed to happen.
The 3pt shooting has been a big problem. We won't win many games shooting 3/16 from 3. But I don't think we will shoot that badly from 3 many games either.
If JWill, JMike, or Derkack could hit 3s at an acceptable rate they would all be All Big Ten. We wish we had studs top to bottom, but that's not our lot and these guys are great but incomplete players. It's up to Pike to hide the deficiencies and max the strengths.
JMike did a much better job of playing his role. Derkack also had fewer ill advised charges into a crowd. JWill shows his leadership by quietly making smart plays, playing his role, helping to win.
The deep bench and rotation will pay dividends in the second half of the season.
The officiating was bad. The large foul differential in our favor should have been larger. Most Refs have an aversion to calling more fouls once it's already lopsided despite what happens on the court. St. Pete's is smart to exploit that and it worked in their favor and helped them stay in the game.
Ogbole was better. Lathan is going to wear out so we need to find ways to get productive use out of Ogbole. Every good minute we wring out of him is a big win.
Acuff looks...lumbering? Not sure what i'm seeing here or what' supposed to happen.
Hayes is the guy but your coach doesn’t run an offense yo get him shots. If he played in an offense like Iowa or Purdue, he would be way more successful. His shot is pure.
Interesting. Helps confirm my suspicion that committing so many fouls was no accident. I suspect being extremely physical is a strategic decision by their coach. Willing to give up free throws in exchange for making opponents wary about going inside perhaps?
Through 2 games although early I think I am safely ready to say I would rather see more of Dercack and Hayes on the court than Jwill when it comes to weaving in Ace minutes
What Jwill “strengths” are are 1000x bigger strengths of ace and Dylan aka needs the ball in his hands to be productive and I don’t think he brings enough else to the table that Dercack and Hayes add.
What Jwill “strengths” are are 1000x bigger strengths of ace and Dylan aka needs the ball in his hands to be productive and I don’t think he brings enough else to the table that Dercack and Hayes add.
He’s not. St. Peter’s hacking every play.
Refs were bad period. Amounts didn’t matter.
JWill +17 can’t be ignored. We played very well with him in the game
Credit to him he's playing HARD on defense. Also got to love his four assists, two steals, and two offensive boards. That's winning basketball even when you go 2-8.
Plus I think he was the only one on either team that was aware that it was a 1 and 1 and not a 2 shot foul.
Yes!! That was a heady smart brilliant play.
On an opposite note thought no need for RU to call, burn a time out with loose ball on floor when there would have been a shot clock violation.
How about the phantom fouls on Somerville and the missed out of bounds calls at least 3-4 and their missed walks and the fouls they missed when they bumped us, or the foul on JMike when the screener hip checked JMike into the dribbler. There were at least 10 if not more calls that never shifted momentum away fromSt. Peter’s that affected how close game was. However, it doesn’t take away how well St. Peter’s played and shot in a very clean game of few turnovers til late
We did not get the timeout as the refs called jumpball. Giving us possession when it would have been a shot clock violation.
I really wasn’t entirely sure what happened there. I guess in the heat of the moment can’t find any fault but a heads up play would have been to just allow the shot clock violation.
As many have said in this thread - the Refs had an off night. St. Peters knows exactly what it is doing in terms of being overly aggressive and basically fouling on almost every possession - including the various hard fouls on Dylan. The refs can't call everything, but the most dissapointing thing was their obvious misses on the deflections out of bounds, moving screens and some of the ticky/tack shooting fouls they called inside against RU while we were getting mauled the other way. My wife is an SHU Alumnus / fan and was at the St. Peters game at Pru Center. She said to me at the game that they basically did the exact same thing to SHU to try and intimidate......the difference being that they did not hit as many 3's consistently in that game that they did against RU - especially in the first half.
Have to also factor in that he's playing through a shoulder injury and isn't completely healthy
Not arguing it wasn’t the right call. Might have been better not fighting so hard for possession and/or timeout as shot clock would have expired. Difficult in the heat of the moment decision of course but something to think about. Deflection would have worked just as well.
Seems like only Dylan can stop Dylan. He has an incredible knack for finishing at the rim, even when help defense comes over. He is so adept at using either hand and finding the opening he needs to complete the play.
He hasn't faced quality shot blocking centers on teams with coaches that are able to game plan and have the tools to stop dribble penetration. Even Harper is going to have at times kick it out and hope others make shots.
Dylan is in a class by himself. Cliff was a great shot-blocking center for us (one of the best in the country), and I bet Dylan would find a way to complete the play on Cliff. We’ll find out soon enough…
Yes . They got 1 call right. Stop dying on this hill. Everyone in the arena saw how bad the refs were tonight and it wasn’t both ways . If was almost all in favor of St. Peter’s and almost always against Rutgers. I hardly ever in my history of posting discuss the refs when usually there are tons of things to point out why a team won or lost. Last night was blatantly one sided bad.
