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Realistic first year RU wins a Big 10 football title

Hmm.. I wonder what a Nebraska fan would have answered to the same question. There you have a traditional power with a devoted fan base with multiple national championships. What would they have said?
 
This 1st season under Ash will give you a good idea on moving up. If he can pull out 7 wins, maybe 8 we would have our best ever recruiting class ever.

No disrespect to our current players, but if Ash can pull off 8 wins next year, after this 4 win team loses Caroo and a bunch of other plamakers for us, he should be up for every coaching award out there and most likely a bunch of the "Big Dogs" will be on the phone with him for a position.

I could be wrong, but 8-4 next season would be a miracle
 
2021. A couple years of winning and a couple years of improved recruiting. Programs have won titles with recruiting classes that are lesser than what Urban Meyer usually pulls in, and programs also fail to have a winning season with the same classes too, like Miami or Michigan.

If Ash can identify good talent and the staff can develop them, then we can be right there with MSU and Mich in a few short years. OSU can't stay as dominant as they currently are forever, their run will come to an end in time.

Ohio State's been on a "Run" since 1954 and won 30 conference titles and 7 national titles in that time... sorry to burst your bubble but Ohio State's "Run" will not come to an end, they will ALWAYS be good and in the top half of the league
 
2030 and I won't be here to enjoy it.
Sadly, I think this is true. At my age, I am hoping this program can become a top half team that occasionally upsets one of the top dogs. I think the situation is the hardest, by far, that we have ever faced. We are not only in a top conference, but the toughest division.
 
Just a guess, of course, but I'll say 2031. A complementary question: Who wins first, Rutgers or Maryland?

With Kevin Plank backing them plus the success of their basketball program (it get's them national exposure) they will be competing for big 10 titles in as little as 8 years.

They also were playing in BCS bowl games before Under Armour was even a company (2003)

That university is quickly becoming the University of Under Armour, similar to what Nike did with Oregon...

So to answer your question Maryland in a landslide. it's not even close imo
 
Ohio State's been on a "Run" since 1954 and won 30 conference titles and 7 national titles in that time... sorry to burst your bubble but Ohio State's "Run" will not come to an end, they will ALWAYS be good and in the top half of the league

They have not been consistently as dominant as they are right now, for the last 60 years...that's nonsense. They lose Urban and don't replace him with an equal then they will have some years of mediocrity..when they'll be much easier to beat.

USC had a very good run under Pete Carroll in recent years where they very hard to beat by anybody, but the loss of Carroll brought them down a few notches since then. We could compete with USC today, and even more so when we get our act together in a couple years.
 
They have not been consistently as dominant as they are right now, for the last 60 years...that's nonsense. They lose Urban and don't replace him with an equal then they will have some years of mediocrity..when they'll be much easier to beat.

USC had a very good run under Pete Carroll in recent years where they very hard to beat by anybody, but the loss of Carroll brought them down a few notches since then. We could compete with USC today, and even more so when we get our act together in a couple years.

OSU averages a conference title every other year (30 titles since 1954 so 30 titles in 61 years). MSU won the B1G this year, OSU won it in 2014 and before that hadn't won the B1G since 2009... so if anything they're in a dry spell. U talk about Urban being great and wonderful, he's been there for 4 years (since 2012) and has 1 conference championship... not the great and powerful Oz that you are making him out to be
 
OSU averages a conference title every other year (30 titles since 1954 so 30 titles in 61 years). MSU won the B1G this year, OSU won it in 2014 and before that hadn't won the B1G since 2009... so if anything they're in a dry spell. U talk about Urban being great and wonderful, he's been there for 4 years (since 2012) and has 1 conference championship... not the great and powerful Oz that you are making him out to be

Talk about "fail" the guy won a national title last year.
 
typical Rutgers fans..so in a rush to project the best case scenario they skip over all the in between. How about we ask how long until we go to a New Years Day bowl or have 9 regular season wins. I would like to do that first and worry about that before I worry about winning the Big 10 title which by the way may never happen
 
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Here are your 7 wins.
Washington
Howard
New Mexico
Illinois
Maryland
Indiana
Minnesota or Penn State home

Not crazy to say its possible to win 7. If we could pull this off we would have people forgeting about 2015 and gets us back on track. Which game is a no chance?

its also risky to just start annexing wins. believe me everyone on that list except for Howad is annexing RU as a win
 
If Ash works out, then 2023 seems about as good a guess as any. Anything can happen, but logically, it's going to take quite some time. And that's just to be competitive enough to take advantage of a relatively easy schedule and with some traditional powers having off years. If we go through another head coaching change, and it's not a major upgrade in terms of name-recognition and abilities, then it will delay things a few years past 2023.
 
Here are your 7 wins.
Washington
Howard
New Mexico
Illinois
Maryland
Indiana
Minnesota or Penn State home

Not crazy to say its possible to win 7. If we could pull this off we would have people forgeting about 2015 and gets us back on track. Which game is a no chance?

Wow! Winning at Washington would be a big upset. New Mexico at home is going to be very close. I can see 5-7 with winnables, Howard, New Mexico, Illinois Maryland and Indiana. I think Penn State is beatable at home but RU never beats them, so I have to count it as a loss. OSU, Mich, Mich St, Wash are most certain losses. Minn will be a tough game to win.
 
Look at Iowa. This part is eerily similar. Then:

1997 7-5
1998 3-8
- Fired coach -

1999 1-10
2000 3-9
2001 7-5
2002 11-2 *won B1G
2003 10-3
2004 11-2 *won B1G

Hopefully we can hope for a similarly short wait.
 
There's no such thing as the law of averages in the Big Ten East. Having done nothing yet to suggest a Big Ten title is within reach -- mind you, I'm talking about the fans, alumni and trustees, not the athletes -- speculating on when Rutgers might be conference champs is nothing but indulgent fantasy.
 
As true Rutgers fans, is winning the conference title a must for all of you? Is 10-2 with not making the Conference Title game a failure?
 
We will play in the Rose Bowl before ever winning the Big Ten.

We may never win the Big Ten Championship.
 
Not in my lifetime. That is of course if I don't decide to cryogenically freeze myself with specific instruction not to revive me until the last minute of the B1G championship when we are up by 21pts. I wouldn't want to jinx us.:smiley: And yes this is my plan.
 
If we get to the point where we finish in the top 3 of B1G east consistently then Ash will no longer be here, he'll get bigger and better offers and we'll reset

If we get to the top 3 consistently, there won't be a reason to leave unless it's a Bama or some SEC school. Bear in mind, he's also got young kids and he seems to be a family first guy, so for him to stay in one place for a decade would be huge.
 
As true Rutgers fans, is winning the conference title a must for all of you? Is 10-2 with not making the Conference Title game a failure?

Haha not everyone on this board was around to watch Vick do front flips over our guys into the end zone. I'm content with a winning record and a bowl game.

It's like we're a 6 and swinging at 10s. I'll settle for an 8 (unless there's an option to pay for a 10).
 
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Haha not everyone on this board was around to watch Vick do front flips over our guys into the end zone. I'm content with a winning record and a bowl game.

It's like we're a 6 and swinging at 10s. I'll settle for an 8 (unless there's an option to pay for a 10).
You forgot McNabb too
 
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Just for reference. Last B1G football Title (total titles):

Illinois: 2001 (15)
Indiana: 1967 (2)
Iowa: 2004 (11)
Maryland: N/A (0)
Michigan: 2004 (42)
Michigan State: 2015 (9)
Minnesota: 1967 (18)
Nebraska: N/A (0)
Northwestern: 2000 (8)
Ohio State: 2014 (36*)
Penn State: 2008 (3)
Purdue: 2000 (8)
Rutgers: N/A (0)
Wisconsin: 2012 (14)

ETA: Interesting to me that of the current 14 members of the conference, 10 have not won a title in the past 11 seasons. 2005-2015: Ohio State (7*), Michigan State (3), Wisconsin (3), and Penn State (2). Split titles in 2005 (Ohio State and Penn State), 2008 (Ohio State and Penn State) and 2010 (Michigan State, Wisconsin and Ohio State*).


*Counting the 2010 title, because vacating wins and titles is stupid. If you don't want to count it, Ohio State is at 35.
So even Michigan hasn't won a Big Ten title in over a decade. Interesting.
 
If we get to the point where we finish in the top 3 of B1G east consistently then Ash will no longer be here, he'll get bigger and better offers and we'll reset

Which schools represent "bigger and better offers" than a school that finishes "in the top 3 of the B1G east consistently"? Don't forget, being in the top 3 of the B1G east consistently means that we are consistently better than at least 2 of Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, and Michigan St.
 
Which schools represent "bigger and better offers" than a school that finishes "in the top 3 of the B1G east consistently"? Don't forget, being in the top 3 of the B1G east consistently means that we are consistently better than at least 2 of Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, and Michigan St.

U see ur just spinning things and being delusional there. I understand the fan in us Makes us fond of our schools, but straight up if A HS prospect has five offers (OSU, MSU, PSU, Mich, and RU) U would have to be smoking crack to honestly believe Rutgers has a shot.
 
U see ur just spinning things and being delusional there. I understand the fan in us Makes us fond of our schools, but straight up if A HS prospect has five offers (OSU, MSU, PSU, Mich, and RU) U would have to be smoking crack to honestly believe Rutgers has a shot.

He was talking about Ash leaving for a better program, not where recruits would go. But if Rutgers is consistently in the top 3 of the B1G east, then Ash is certainly getting quality recruits.
 
If ever we get over that proverbial hump, I don't think the accent will be linear. Just because of where we sit, it will be logarithmic. We truly are in a unique position. I believe that "rise" will be meteoric, if it ever happens.
 
So even Michigan hasn't won a Big Ten title in over a decade. Interesting.
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Just look at this:

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2016

3 of the top ten recruiting classes are in OUR DIVISION...

Including

#1 class overall - OSU
#5 class - UM
#10 class - MSU

#20 is PSU

#47 is Maryland

#73 is Indiana

#79 is finally Rutgers


That is just our division.

Add to that the awful Flood classes that crippled our beloved program and that is one hell of a hole to dig out of.

Ash really has his work cut out for him.
 
That was NCAA tournament appearance. We have been to the NIT, with winning records, since.
Yes, Gary Waters resigned/forced out after a 19-14 campaign in 05/06. Wonder what shape the program would be in now if he had stayed around?
 
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