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Ron Sr on Dylan’s Recruitment

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Nothing major in the article that we don’t already know (talent is true, mom is the driver, etc.) but thought this quote by SR is pretty significant.

Helps that Ron Sr was able to play close to home at a small school and still thrive as a pro.
 
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At some point early he may have had concerns not knowing what kind of surrounding cast Dylan would have here but now that seems to have been put to bed. Not only is Rutgers close, the Dream team potential sets up an opportunity for his family collectively to go down as a historical Rutgers legacy in turning around a program. And of course, the optics start with his story as a kid who worked his way from mid-major up to the NBA. It’s a great message from a NJ family and he must know that. How could he not?
 


Nothing major in the article that we don’t already know (talent is true, mom is the driver, etc.) but thought this quote by SR is pretty significant.

Helps that Ron Sr was able to play close to home at a small school and still thrive as a pro.
I briefly met Dylan’s grandma early in Ron Jrs freshman season at a restaurant before a Saturday afternoon game, probably November or early December. She is a really nice woman.

I know you will consider that, Dylan!!
 
I'm curious why a few posters think he shouldn't have said what he said.

I know it's heresy to have a standard viewpoint and not change on every subject to benefit Rutgers, but imagine Ace's dad came out and said publically "Ace should stay local and go to Auburn or Georgia."

I would imagine the reaction would be "He shouldn't say that. Let the kid live his life and pick his own school. Ace should purposely pick Rutgers to get out on his own and see a different part of the country."

I mentioned it in the recent FB commit thread - it seemed (based on TKR podcast) he was UNC/Wisconsin until the last week when his parents got involved and demanded he go to Rutgers and stay local.

Kids should pick the school they want. Consider the parents but it's ultimately their own decision. They get pressured by everyone to pick a particular school. Parents shouldn't be adding to that pressure.
 
I know it's heresy to have a standard viewpoint and not change on every subject to benefit Rutgers, but imagine Ace's dad came out and said publically "Ace should stay local and go to Auburn or Georgia."

I would imagine the reaction would be "He shouldn't say that. Let the kid live his life and pick his own school. Ace should purposely pick Rutgers to get out on his own and see a different part of the country."

I mentioned it in the recent FB commit thread - it seemed (based on TKR podcast) he was UNC/Wisconsin until the last week when his parents got involved and demanded he go to Rutgers and stay local.

Kids should pick the school they want. Consider the parents but it's ultimately their own decision. They get pressured by everyone to pick a particular school. Parents shouldn't be adding to that pressure.
I think he can say whatever he wants. As could Ace's dad hypothetically and posters shouldn't get worked up over everything. But I know that's what we do here. I just found the reaction out of proportion to an off-the-cuff comment.
 
Parents shouldn't be adding to that pressure.

if you mean “adding to the pressure” as making their comments public then I guess I generally agree

But if you mean “adding to the pressure” as telling their kids their opinions behind closed doors then i don’t. That’s their job.

However…

Thing is though, kids like Dylan are not typical. They are not normal. They are not your normal high school kids. There is no way that kids perform at that level without being able to handle immense pressure.

Me at Dylan’s age - I would have wilted at the sign of any pressure.

I really don’t think Dylan is nearly the delicate flower than i was (and lot kids are/were) at 16/17.

We have no idea if Dylan perceives his dads comment as pressure in any way.

….

And really all this commentary could really be moot.

Theory I haven’t seen in here: maybe this is just a step towards an imminent announcement.

Didn’t we always hear this thing how his mom wanted Rutgers and his dad wanted Dook?

Now his dad is (essentially) saying Rutgers.

Maybe it’s just paving the way to the inevitable….

🤔
 
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I'm curious why a few posters think he shouldn't have said what he said.
I think most people just instinctively know that it's not smart to air your internal family business in public like that. There were things my parents wanted me to do as a young man. Not that there were any reporters covering me, but if there were, I wouldn't have wanted my parents telling the press what they wanted me to do.
 
if you mean “adding to the pressure” as making their comments public then I guess I generally agree

But if you mean “adding to the pressure” as telling their kids their opinions behind closed doors then i don’t. That’s their job.

However…

Thing is though, kids like Dylan are not typical. They are not normal. They are not your normal high school kids. There is no way that kids perform at that level without being able to handle immense pressure.

Me at Dylan’s age - I would have wilted at the sign of any pressure.

I really don’t think Dylan is nearly the delicate flower than i was (and lot of were) at 16/17.

We have no idea if Dylan perceives his dads comments as pressure in any way.
Agree with this. Based on everything I have read about Dylan and his mom, I don't think they are going to influenced by comments like that one. Guy seems totally locked in on doing what is best for his future NBA goals.
 
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I think most people just instinctively know that it's not smart to air your internal family business in public like that. There were things my parents wanted me to do as a young man. Not that there were any reporters covering me, but if there were, I wouldn't have wanted my parents telling the press what they wanted me to do.
It's not a big deal - he seemed to be kidding around. He probably wishes he could pull the words back in his mouth as soon as they escaped.
 
I don't know the Harpers, I don't know the full context of the quote. With that in mind...

First - parents should NOT make their kid's college decision for them (or even HS if they get a choice). The kid needs to own it. If a kid picks a school to make his father and his grandparents happy as soon as things don't go well, it's "why did I do this just to make them happy?".

Second - I get that the Harpers are very much more in the public eye than anyone here. Also Ron SR has been like that for a long time, but it's a personal decision. There is nothing to be gained by saying something like that in public. I know my kids as teenagers would be pissed at me for saying something like that.
 
I don't know the Harpers, I don't know the full context of the quote. With that in mind...

First - parents should NOT make their kid's college decision for them (or even HS if they get a choice). The kid needs to own it. If a kid picks a school to make his father and his grandparents happy as soon as things don't go well, it's "why did I do this just to make them happy?".

Second - I get that the Harpers are very much more in the public eye than anyone here. Also Ron SR has been like that for a long time, but it's a personal decision. There is nothing to be gained by saying something like that in public. I know my kids as teenagers would be pissed at me for saying something like that.
Ron's parents are divorced, and all indications have been that his mother had been more influential in his basketball life up to this point, including being more enthusiastic about Dylan coming to Rutgers. So my take on this is that Ron Sr. is publicly acknowledging he is on board with the decision if it comes to pass.
 
I'm curious why a few posters think he shouldn't have said what he said.
What he said isn’t a problem. Saying it publicly is the issue. He should have kept that between him and his son.
 
I don't know the Harpers, I don't know the full context of the quote. With that in mind...

First - parents should NOT make their kid's college decision for them (or even HS if they get a choice). The kid needs to own it. If a kid picks a school to make his father and his grandparents happy as soon as things don't go well, it's "why did I do this just to make them happy?".

Second - I get that the Harpers are very much more in the public eye than anyone here. Also Ron SR has been like that for a long time, but it's a personal decision. There is nothing to be gained by saying something like that in public. I know my kids as teenagers would be pissed at me for saying something like that.

I assume you are only referring to kids on a full scholarship. Because I currently have one in college and just put one through and if I am paying $140,000 I’m gonna have a say in the process.
 
if you mean “adding to the pressure” as making their comments public then I guess I generally agree

But if you mean “adding to the pressure” as telling their kids their opinions behind closed doors then i don’t. That’s their job.

However…

Thing is though, kids like Dylan are not typical. They are not normal. They are not your normal high school kids. There is no way that kids perform at that level without being able to handle immense pressure.

Me at Dylan’s age - I would have wilted at the sign of any pressure.

I really don’t think Dylan is nearly the delicate flower than i was (and lot kids are/were) at 16/17.

We have no idea if Dylan perceives his dads comment as pressure in any way.

….

And really all this commentary could really be moot.

Theory I haven’t seen in here: maybe this is just a step towards an imminent announcement.

Didn’t we always hear this thing how his mom wanted Rutgers and his dad wanted Dook?

Now his dad is (essentially) saying Rutgers.

Maybe it’s just paving the way to the inevitable….

🤔
Ron Sr is also not your typical father, he is always a big part of the story, has spent a lot of time with the media, and may have felt comfortable giving them this little nugget.
 
I don't know the Harpers, I don't know the full context of the quote. With that in mind...

First - parents should NOT make their kid's college decision for them (or even HS if they get a choice). The kid needs to own it. If a kid picks a school to make his father and his grandparents happy as soon as things don't go well, it's "why did I do this just to make them happy?".

Second - I get that the Harpers are very much more in the public eye than anyone here. Also Ron SR has been like that for a long time, but it's a personal decision. There is nothing to be gained by saying something like that in public. I know my kids as teenagers would be pissed at me for saying something like that.
You are overblowing this decision, it is a one year decision for Dylan. I am sure he and his father spend much more time discussing the NBA than they do about his college decision. We as fans get more worked up about this because it is more important to us than it is to Dylan.
 
Ron's parents are divorced, and all indications have been that his mother had been more influential in his basketball life up to this point, including being more enthusiastic about Dylan coming to Rutgers. So my take on this is that Ron Sr. is publicly acknowledging he is on board with the decision if it comes to pass.
Yes, I read the article and it is more of a piece on his mother. How hard she’s worked and how she got to where she is.

Ultimately it seems clear it is Dylan’s decision. But the stars continue to align
 
I don't know the Harpers, I don't know the full context of the quote. With that in mind...

First - parents should NOT make their kid's college decision for them (or even HS if they get a choice). The kid needs to own it. If a kid picks a school to make his father and his grandparents happy as soon as things don't go well, it's "why did I do this just to make them happy?".

Second - I get that the Harpers are very much more in the public eye than anyone here. Also Ron SR has been like that for a long time, but it's a personal decision. There is nothing to be gained by saying something like that in public. I know my kids as teenagers would be pissed at me for saying something like that.
Didn't we get two 4* football commits because the parents wanted them to play close to home? That was a big part of the decision making process after being comfortable with the program. I don't see this as any different.
 
I lobbied hard for my son to go to RU - he went to George Washington
I learned nothing from that and lobbied for my daughter to go to RU - She went to Maryland which is similar to RU but without the in-state tuition.

So yeah, based on my experience, it probably would be better if the parents didn't push RU publicly.
 
My two eldest could have gone to RU tuition free, told both if they went to RU I could afford to buy them a new car. If not, they could go but oils have to take out loans to cover part of cost. Both decided to go elsewhere.
When I went my fathers offer to me and to my brother was go to RU (we had free tuition) and he would cover cost. Go elsewhere and we were on our own. We both chose RU.
 
I pushed hard for my daughter to go the RU, but she insisted on going over a thousand miles away. She transferred to Rutgers after her freshman year and graduated from RU 3 years later…I ultimately got what I wanted…, a big “I told you so”, and mega bucks in savings…win-win.
 
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If a parent or guardian makes a statement about staying close to home- that is perfectly fine for them to say to anyone, any time, any where. And it shouldn't be added stress on a kid, it should only be showing their love for their kid.
And that goes for any parent in any state.

And when it comes to playing sports- and contact sports at that. This has always been my take and what I tell every family going through the decision. Take the "sport" part out of it. This is the main benefit to staying close to home- There is a good chance your son gets injured during his career. Which may also mean a trip to the hospital or maybe being layed up post surgery. Well- do you want to hope someone is there with your son during those first 24-48 hours while you are taking a week off of work to fly out to be with them or would you prefer to jump in the car and be holding their hand within a couple of hours.
 
If a parent or guardian makes a statement about staying close to home- that is perfectly fine for them to say to anyone, any time, any where. And it shouldn't be added stress on a kid, it should only be showing their love for their kid.
And that goes for any parent in any state.

And when it comes to playing sports- and contact sports at that. This has always been my take and what I tell every family going through the decision. Take the "sport" part out of it. This is the main benefit to staying close to home- There is a good chance your son gets injured during his career. Which may also mean a trip to the hospital or maybe being layed up post surgery. Well- do you want to hope someone is there with your son during those first 24-48 hours while you are taking a week off of work to fly out to be with them or would you prefer to jump in the car and be holding their hand within a couple of hours.

You obviously know much better.

However, Dylan's situation is a unique instance.
This likely isn't a multi year/season decision.

Dylan will be on campus in September 2024 and likely leave by April 2025 to start prepping for the NBA draft.
He's only playing basketball in college for 4-5 months total.
 
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